Covid

[rab_rant]

There are two aspects of taking the vaccine that are not being discussed on this forum that is suffering from a cytokine storm, and the other is A D E ( antibody dependent enhancement).

Both of these conditions are known to exist and all of the articles that I have read say that there nothing to worry about.

So the scientific Community are reassuring the public that nothing can go wrong if covid hits again.

You are safe.

CYTOKINE STORM
https://www.verywellhealth.com/cytokine ... me-4842383

ADE
https://health-desk.org/articles/are-co ... nhancement

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[whiteroseboy]

There are two aspects of taking the vaccine that are not being discussed on this forum that is suffering from a cytokine storm, and the other is A D E ( antibody dependent enhancement).

Both of these conditions are known to exist and all of the articles that I have read say that there nothing to worry about.

So the scientific Community are reassuring the public that nothing can go wrong if covid hits again.

You are safe.

CYTOKINE STORM
https://www.verywellhealth.com/cytokine ... me-4842383

ADE
https://health-desk.org/articles/are-co ... nhancement

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Tell us more?

There are always risks but it's about percentages as I understand.

Can you show us evidence that the two things you mention, Cytokine (which I've previously not heard of) and ADE are a bigger risk than Covid.
Consider that 4 million have already died (could be more as some countries are not announcing numbers) and many more are suffering Long Covid (if you know anyone with it you will see how awful it is).

It's been known about ADE a long time but it's widely accepted that the benefit of vaccines (all not just covid) far out way the risks.
Same ADE argument goes for anti-biotics but they save more life's than anything.
Of course you can always find someone that will.make a case the other way but I prefer to trust the majority of experts when I'm not qualified myself.

[BobHirst]

Seriously Sara? So the work of doctors and scientists is being impeded because they can't see what anonymous people on Facebook are posting!

[rab_rant]

There is no denying that censorship on Facebook on YouTube is going on.

last weekend there was a huge anti lockdown demonstration in London and there was not a whisper in the mainstream media... and if anything was said it was very biased reporting.

all types of descent are lumped together with conspiracy theories and anti-vaxers... ordinary People don't seem to have a voice and they are silenced.

https://youtu.be/2GBcOCutzhc

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[Mick Jones shoulder]

This will cease when the government decides what it deems an acceptable level of death, as is the case with flu.
Wish they would blow as much money on heart disease and cancer.

[whiteroseboy]

We should be talking about mRNA because, as I said, it's a completely new technology, and unforeseen side effects are already appearing.

Biodistribution; the vaccine is travelling around the body instead of remaining at the injection site. The lipid nanoparticles which coat the vaccine have been observed to build up in the ovaries, posing as yet unknown risks for health and fertility in women.

Also, the mRNA specifically encodes the spike proteins of the virus, and it is now evident that the spike proteins themselves are biologically active, and can cause toxicity. They were engineered to remain fixed to the surface of cells, but can break free and travel around the body, creating a range of serious adverse reactions. This is the sort of thing that could have been identified with adequate clinical trials prior to rollout.

To compound the problem, reporting of serious side effects is being censored and suppressed; for example, a user group of 200,000 people reporting symptoms has been removed from Facebook. Tarring any such discussion with the 'anti vax' label is inhibiting doctors from linking problems they are seeing, such as miscarriages and heart attacks, with the vaccine. Again, this needs to be openly investigated to form a clearer picture, not simply dismissed because of political pressure and wishful thinking.

How do you know they are been censored?

Where do you get your info?

As for mrna technology be interested if you tell us more as my understanding from a chemist friend is that it only is what your body does naturally. Don't know the terms and the nitty gritty but apparently it boosts immunity.

How many other symptoms such as heart attacks/miscarriages have happened compared to the numbers that die or get long covid?

[1964white]

This will cease when the government decides what it deems an acceptable level of death, as is the case with flu.
Wish they would blow as much money on heart disease and cancer.

Indeed MJ although there has been billions donated to cancer/heart disease charitable over the last few decades.

As a nation we should be looking after our own welfare much better. I'm flabbergasted how many obese people I've witnessed on holiday this week.

[whiteroseboy]

last weekend there was a huge anti lockdown demonstration in London and there was not a whisper in the mainstream media... and if anything was said it was very biased reporting.

Noticed you avoided my last question about your knowledge of ADE & Cytokine

So will ask about this statement.

I read about this protest on the BBC website.

Do you not consider the BBC mainstream media?

[Mick Jones shoulder]

Indeed MJ although there has been billions donated to cancer/heart disease charitable over the last few decades.

As a nation we should be looking after our own welfare much better. I'm flabbergasted how many obese people I've witnessed on holiday this week.

It is the English way 64

[rab_rant]

Noticed you avoided my last question about your knowledge of ADE & Cytokine

So will ask about this statement.

I read about this protest on the BBC website.

Do you not consider the BBC mainstream media?

I read one BBC article about the anti-lockdown march... and there was hardly I mentioned of covid or vaccinations... though being an anti- lockdown march you would have thought that would have been the main point.

Instead the bulk of the article was about the Palestinian cause and climate change and also extinction Rebellion. The focus of attention was taking away from the anti lockdown stand, and given to other disparate causes.

It is an old technique... deflection, burying the news that you don't want people to hear, by concentrating on some other news that is happening at the same time.

Extinction Rebellion becomes more newsworthy than anti-lockdown march.

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[Leeds1000]

I thought i would surprise the other half and take her into the heart of the virus epicenter... Greater Manchester for a few nights. Not because i'm kind but because i knew i would get a good deal with all the fear and loathing going on. The Scots aren't allowed to go there on major Krankies orders... i will report back first hand if i see any strange happenings on my return. Wish me luck...

Captain reporting for duty.... Over and out. Hopefully not for the count!

[rab_rant]

Joe Rogan and the ivermectin debate. Does censorship exist,and does big pharm not want a cheap drug to be used in the treatment of covid.

https://open.spotify.com/episode/7uVXKg ... l_branch=1

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[1964white]

What a bungling idiot Boris is?

A few more weeks of restrictions was all that required whilst we got all the young people vaccinated.

Once again our brain-dead politicians thinking about themselves so they can enjoy their holidays.

Boris doing his best to become Mr Populist

[1964white]

The new health Secretary Sajid Javid is a jerk.

God help us all in the coming months with these buffoons in charge.

[rab_rant]

a few years ago in Ukraine there was the trash can challenge where corrupt politicians were dumped into rubbish bins.

it's a mad world.

https://youtu.be/ycf-tANBnnQ

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[rab_rant]

get a jab and win a Euro 2020 ticket.
https://metro.co.uk/2021/07/06/euro-202 ... e.top.link

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[rab_rant]

Bring on the Lucie Richard Ashcroft

[Norm]

I've always had natural good health and have ignored the entire covid-19 circus.
My son has my genes and likewise has not had a problem.
My wife has a seemingly healthy body and likewise has ignored the circus.

Sorry if it offends but really I've never had a 'flu shot and never will. I can't and won't hold myself responsible for peoples' deaths and I still think the best thing to happen is that we get on with life and get over it.

[Norm]

sic transit gloria

[hector]

sic transit gloria

Who is Gloria?
is she not well?
where is she moving to?