Covid

[whiteroseboy]

That's 1.9% deaths - no more than normal 'flu - the whole thing has been exaggerated beyond belief.

Flu deaths in the UK are usually between 11,000 on a good year to 26,000 on a bad year.

It was down but still just under 10,000 deaths were recorded as Flu in 2020.
Maybe that was also helped by the lockdown as well as Covid.

However whatever deaths were recorded as there was around 80,000 more deaths in the UK than the 5 year average 2015 to 2019.

Wonder what caused them ?

[1964white]

Flu deaths in the UK are usually between 11,000 on a good year to 26,000 on a bad year.

It was down but still just under 10,000 deaths were recorded as Flu in 2020.
Maybe that was also helped by the lockdown as well as Covid.

However whatever deaths were recorded as there was around 80,000 more deaths in the UK than the 5 year average 2015 to 2019.

Wonder what caused them ?

Flu & colds are definitely less prevelent.

I haven't had a cold in 18 months since wearing masks, also people's hygiene habits have probably improved although why it needs a pandemic for folk to wash their hands more regularly god only knows

[rab_rant]

Thank God!?

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[whiteroseboy]

Thank God!?

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How relevant save the mask kill the people.

Agree dropping masks is a issue like any litter problem but nothing compared to takeaway packaging.

Still I tend to think 4 million (and growing) dead worldwide is a bigger issue.

[Norm]

Peter in Blackpool wrote:

Eh? Have i read this right.....you had a temperature of 105.6 which risks death
You were admitted to hospital....but yet you claim to be asymptomatic

I apologise, my post was really somewhat incomplete Peter. The temperature spike was unexpected and I didn't even feel ill, just a little warmer than normal.

My wife took me to the ER and, by the time I got into hospital gear, my temperature had gone down to 98.8 and they confirmed that I had covid-19, but I was released and went home. You could question the reading from the testing thermometer, but it's never been wrong before so we just took the necessary precautions.

So, maybe not asymptomatic but almost. I had a brief spike and then my immune system somehow got hold of it and cured the problem.

Fair point though.

[rab_rant]

Agree dropping masks is a issue like any litter problem but nothing compared to takeaway packaging.

Health Canada is advising Canadians not to use face masks that contain graphene because there is a potential that they could inhale graphene particles, which may pose health risks.

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[whiteroseboy]

Health Canada is advising Canadians not to use face masks that contain graphene because there is a potential that they could inhale graphene particles, which may pose health risks.

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And rightly so if there is a proven health risk, one of the issues with masks is there isn't a standard in quality.

[1964white]

A 'gentle giant' who died in hospital after a three-week battle with coronavirus told a nurse he wished he'd been vaccinated before passing away.

Glen Barrett's family believe he may have contracted it while watching an England game during Euro 2020.

Relatives said the 51-year-old "had his worries and reasons" for not getting the Covid-19 vaccine.

But they said that, before he was put into an induced coma, he told a nurse 'he wished he had' been inoculated.

Cousin Ken Meech - who regarded 6ft 3ins Glenn as a 'big brother' - is now urging everyone to get vaccinated when they can.

"If he had, he would still be with us today,"

"I'm not a doom monger or someone who's telling you what you should do or not do. After all we are suppose to live in a free world.

"But this is one of the saddest times of my life, losing my cousin, Big Glenn Barrett to Covid."

Glenn 'had his worries and reasons' for not getting the jab, relatives said

[1964white]

All very sad but I have no sympathy for anyone who refuses the vaccine

Looking at the chap whom lost his life he'd appear to be a vulnerable case if he contracted coronavirus

[Smudge3920]

All very sad but I have no sympathy for anyone who refuses the vaccine

Looking at the chap whom lost his life he'd appear to be a vulnerable case if he contracted coronavirus

It is very sad Leon, also it is very sad when a grave situation such as this makes us so devisive. I too believe in the vaccines,having put my trust in the experts. However I am tolerant of those with genuine beliefs and reasons for not being vaccinated. In a world where we demand freedom of speech and choice it begs for tolerance, and who knows in 10, 20 years maybe those who chose not to be vaccinated might be proved right. we just don't know. I know I won't be around to see the outcome, but many will.

[Norm]

Smudge3920 wrote:

It is very sad Leon, also it is very sad when a grave situation such as this makes us so devisive. I too believe in the vaccines,having put my trust in the experts. However I am tolerant of those with genuine beliefs and reasons for not being vaccinated. In a world where we demand freedom of speech and choice it begs for tolerance, and who knows in 10, 20 years maybe those who chose not to be vaccinated might be proved right. we just don't know. I know I won't be around to see the outcome, but many will.

Good post Smudge. I have had covid-19 and don't see the point of being vaccinated, unless it's for a specific new strain, but aside from that, I've never had a 'flu jab and never will - my choice.

[Overman]

What a horrible attitude. Do you have any sympathy for those who have died, like this healthy 13 year old boy, after receiving the vaccine?

https://www.westernjournal.com/healthy- ... cine-dose/

Indeed Sara, a disgusting thing to say Leon. I thought you was better than that, but clearly not.

[1964white]

Apologies for my comment.

I just despair & become so cross with folk who are refusing to have the vaccine which is obviously curving the death rate, it no use 70% of the UK vaccinated & 30% wandering around like ticking time-bombs. Covid will never go away whilst we have people who are prepared to take the risk of contracting this horrible disease & passing it onto others.

Even the poor victim Glen confessed from his hospital bed wish he'd had his jabs. Maybe if the the vaccine was mandatory this fella & many others would be still alive OR not suffering horrible illnesses right now!

Already 1000's of casualties are emerging from the Wembley games during Euro 2020. It's because of the unvaccinated I have serious concerns about watching Leeds in the upcoming season, my health & feeling safe is paramount for me, sod the money I've paid for my season-ticket.

[1964white]

Indeed Sara, a disgusting thing to say Leon. I thought you was better than that, but clearly not.

Sorry Sara your decision not have your jabs is irresponsible imo!

Nearly 130,000 people have lost their lives with hundreds of 1000's seriously left poorly from lasting covid in the UK.

We have to eradicate this horrible disease so we can return to life as we know it.

[VoiceofaLurker]

No need to apologise 64 it's how the majority feel.

You don't beat pandemics with an individualistic approach it has to be a collective. We've picked our sides and have now been told to go out and play together which will be the true test of the "I know better" approach.

The missus' work colleagues went to the semi final at Wembley and are now all laid up with covid passing it onto their partners, in one case a pregnant one.

Regarding your predicament it would probably be advisable to let the ensuing wave pass imho.

VOAL

Apologies for my comment.

I just despair & become so cross with folk who are refusing to have the vaccine which is obviously curving the death rate, it no use 70% of the UK vaccinated & 30% wandering around like ticking time-bombs. Covid will never go away whilst we have people who are prepared to take the risk of contracting this horrible disease & passing it onto others.

Even the poor victim Glen confessed from his hospital bed wish he'd had his jabs. Maybe if the the vaccine was mandatory this fella & many others would be still alive OR not suffering horrible illnesses right now!

Already 1000's of casualties are emerging from the Wembley games during Euro 2020. It's because of the unvaccinated I have serious concerns about watching Leeds in the upcoming season, my health & feeling safe is paramount for me, sod the money I've paid for my season-ticket.

[Mick Jones shoulder]

Everyone entitled to an opinion, just make sure it pleases everybody 64. I think the biggest problem is people allow themselves to become vulnerable by being fat fu.ks and until the individual addresses that ,health problems will only escalate imo.

[Mountain]

He didn't simply refuse the vaccine. He refused the vaccine and went into a pub.

I have some sympathy, maybe he had his own reasons for not taking the vaccine, but he compounded the risks caused by that decision by going into a public area.

I'd definitely have more sympathy for someone who contracted the virus despite taking every precaution over someone who, through negligence or recklessness, contributed to their own demise.

[Mick Jones shoulder]

I'd definitely have more sympathy for someone who contracted the virus despite taking every precaution over someone who, through negligence or recklessness, contributed to their own demise.

This

[1964white]

No need to apologise 64 it's how the majority feel.

You don't beat pandemics with an individualistic approach it has to be a collective. We've picked our sides and have now been told to go out and play together which will be the true test of the "I know better" approach.

The missus' work colleagues went to the semi final at Wembley and are now all laid up with covid passing it onto their partners, in one case a pregnant one.

Regarding your predicament it would probably be advisable to let the ensuing wave pass imho

VOAL

Thank you Lurker

We don't do collective in the UK, prior to the arrival of Covid I knew we'd have a serious problem here once it hit our shores as sadly we live in a impatient rebellious society.

As for my beloved Leeds it saddens me I'll miss the first two home games (maybe more) in decades, I was hoping to acquire a ticket for Old Trafford, not bothered now.

[1964white]

Everyone entitled to an opinion, just make sure it pleases everybody 64. I think the biggest problem is people allow themselves to become vulnerable by being fat fu.ks and until the individual addresses that ,health problems will only escalate imo.

Agree MJ

I'm flabbergasted by the amount of obesity I witness everyday, sadly it seems to be the norm now