Leeds Utd v Crewe Alex Match Thread - Marcelo Bielsa names strong XI, Forshaw starts first game since 2019

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Carabao Cup, 2nd Round
24/08/2021
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Re: Leeds Utd v Crewe Alex Match Thread - Marcelo Bielsa names strong XI, Forshaw starts first game since 2019

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Shame he appears to trust none of them (u23)
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Mick Jones shoulder wrote: ↑Tue Aug 24, 2021 9:03 pm Shame he appears to trust none of them (u23)
Well that's a worry if we're not signing anyone then. We can't really on 14 players all year.
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Mick Jones shoulder wrote: ↑Tue Aug 24, 2021 9:03 pm Shame he appears to trust none of them (u23)
Maybe he is right and they arent good enough? In which case Kinnear shouldn't be talking them up as options.

But the fact he used none of them tonight is a very worrying thing imo if this is to be our squad.

He didnt want to have a look at any of them? Does he have literally no faith unless its absolutely unavoidable?
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Re: Leeds Utd v Crewe Alex Match Thread - Marcelo Bielsa names strong XI, Forshaw starts first game since 2019

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On one hand I understand the need to get more minutes into the first team squad and not unsettling the defence too much, but not trusting any of the U23s is a worry for me, particularly Summerville who couldn't have done much worse than Costa tonight by all accounts. I can foresee us being in dire straits this season if/when the inevitable suspensions and injuries all come along at the same time.
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I'm all for playing a strong side and having a cup run, but I don't see how we'd be any worse off trying Summerville over Costa or Gelhardt/Greenwood over Roberts?
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Remember the last time we saw Jenkins, Casey, Poveda, and Greenwood were trusted by Bielsa in a cup game?


Look if Roberts, Costa and Rodrigo had taken their chances tonight we would have saw a few U23s get some minutes.
But we needed our starting players to get the win tonight and they did the job in the end.

And if Cresswell is so bloody good how did Spurs seconds drive a bus through the middle of our defence yesterday?
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Irish Ian wrote: ↑Tue Aug 24, 2021 9:23 pm
And if Cresswell is so bloody good how did Spurs seconds drive a bus through the middle of our defence yesterday?
Spurs No.9 Mankaday tore Cresswell & our defence apart with a stunning hat-trick.
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Asking for 1 or 2 u23s amongst a strong side, isn't the same as wanting the entire u23s to start or playing multiple players out of position, as MB did v Crawley and Hull.
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1964white wrote: ↑Tue Aug 24, 2021 9:37 pm Spurs No.9 Mankaday tore Cresswell & our defence apart with a stunning hat-trick.
I saw it. And for some on here wanting him on at HT when it was 0-0 is just silly.
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Good night out at Elland Road great crowd decent football and Phillips and 3-0 at 55/1 made it even sweeter
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SG90 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 24, 2021 9:42 pm Asking for 1 or 2 u23s amongst a strong side, isn't the same as wanting the entire u23s to start or playing multiple players out of position, as MB did v Crawley and Hull.
Let's see.
Crawley.

Casilla
Cooper
Hernandez
Alioski
Costa
Phillips
Rodrigo

Plenty to see off a pub team and some reality TV star.
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Irish Ian wrote: ↑Tue Aug 24, 2021 9:47 pm I saw it. And for some on here wanting him on at HT when it was 0-0 is just silly.
If they aren't good enough that is fine but then Kinnear shouldn't be using them in his defence of our transfer window.

As it is i actually do think we overrate our u23s greatly as a fanbase but if MB doesnt rate any of them as seems likely then that is worrying as it stands now with seemingly no hope of reinforcements for the first team.
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Irish Ian wrote: ↑Tue Aug 24, 2021 9:51 pm Let's see.
Crawley.

Casilla
Cooper
Hernandez
Alioski
Costa
Phillips
Rodrigo

Plenty to see off a pub team and some reality TV star.
And if we'd stick with that team, we'd have won. But Bielsa brought in 3 u23s at HT and moved players out of position.
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Everyone said Struijk wasn't good enough and Cooper was better. But he was given a chance and proved he was good enough. How can we say Summerville and Gelhardt aren't good enough if they've never been given a chance?
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Kinnear will definitely do the "Forshaw is like a new signing" interview soon :lol:
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Cjay wrote: ↑Tue Aug 24, 2021 9:15 pm https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/s ... -3-0-crewe

Rodrigo and Roberts, deary me.
To be fair, Crewe defended like their lives depended on it. I remember us defending just like that against Arsenal? Throwing everyone against everything. Possibly the season before we were relegated from the premier league. (I could be wrong and I dont mind being corrected )You know, football is about attacking AND defending. Crewe defended very well, credit where credits due
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SG90 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 24, 2021 10:02 pm Everyone said Struijk wasn't good enough and Cooper was better. But he was given a chance and proved he was good enough. How can we say Summerville and Gelhardt aren't good enough if they've never been given a chance?
I've always championed Struijk since I saw him about 2-3 years ago in an under 23's, in fact I remember quite a few on here who were impressed with him and were delighted, as was I that he is now a first team squad regular
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LUFC 1966 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 24, 2021 9:49 pm Good night out at Elland Road great crowd decent football and Phillips and 3-0 at 55/1 made it even sweeter
You were there? :)
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