Norwich City v Leeds Utd Match Thread - Thank god for Raphinha!

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Norwich City v Leeds United
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31/10/2021
Carrow Road
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Boo Radley wrote: ↑Sun Oct 31, 2021 4:47 pm Crucial win - steadies the ship for now, just about. We’ve managed to reattach ourselves to the mid table group and that was the main aim today.

However we can’t ignore that the first half was dire. We looked scared and so unsure. Basically there was no difference between us and them in that period. It looked a poor Championship game.

I thought Struijk was our best player over 90 minutes. Raphinha wasn’t firing at all in the first half - different cheese in the second, thankfully.

Philips does look like someone whose head has been turned, as others here have mentioned. He was so poor. Only his new England shirt saved him from an early bath. He committed three fouls that each could have been yellows. He needs to step up urgently or we will be dependent on Forshaw very quickly.

Harrison’s time is up now surely up. We can’t persist with him and Roberts, in particular, with nothing coming from them. James isn’t far behind, although his assist was quality.

If this is the break we needed to step up then it will have been worth suffering it. If we reproduce that performance in the coming weeks we’ll beat no one else.
I agree with all of this.
Jack Harrison was abysmal and that is one of the worst games I have ever seen Kalvin have. His passing was mostly poor, he kept getting turned and gave away loads of needless fouls.
Struijk easily our best player today.
Rodrigo worked hard.
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We really need to hit some kind of form, besides the obvious league position issue. One of my biggest worries concerns Raphinia. If as reported PSG cement their interest and bid during the January transfer window - (bearing in mind he can play in Europe so it is not a fanciful suggestion) there is no doubt we will rebut any offer. But what will it do to his head, particularly if he indicates he wants to leave. He will definitely be going in the summer - I just hope he can resist wanting to leave before then.
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I've only just watched the second half as I had to go out so recorded it and didn't know the result.
I have died a thousand deaths sitting through that.
What has happened to our team?
I just pray Raphinha stays fit this season.
Very disappointing Gelhardt didn't get on.
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DDB220 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 31, 2021 6:14 pm We really need to hit some kind of form, besides the obvious league position issue. One of my biggest worries concerns Raphinia. If as reported PSG cement their interest and bid during the January transfer window - (bearing in mind he can play in Europe so it is not a fanciful suggestion) there is no doubt we will rebut any offer. But what will it do to his head, particularly if he indicates he wants to leave. He will definitely be going in the summer - I just hope he can resist wanting to leave before then.
The 3 points dropped at southampton would have had us in 13 th place today, would have looked much healthier.
Hopefully Rapha will stay this season, have a great world cup and his stock will soar massively.
Looks like Phillips has also had his head turned.
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Before we think players heads have been turned can we not learn our lesson from the Dallas pasting he got on here. Footballers are human beings. We have absolutely no idea what is going on with Philip's right now in his personal life (if anything). Also remember he's just back from a nasty injury
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The other way to look at our position...we've lost the fewest games of the bottom 6 teams and even the same as mid table wolves & Leicester. 3 of our defeats would've been expected, Southampton was THE big disappointment. We're not losing to the others around us and we're playing shite. Hopefully after the international break we'll have paddy back who improves us no end and Ayling won't be far off by then. Avoid defeat against Leicester and we might just turn the corner.

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BGwhite wrote: ↑Sun Oct 31, 2021 6:39 pm The other way to look at our position...we've lost the fewest games of the bottom 6 teams and even the same as mid table wolves & Leicester. 3 of our defeats would've been expected, Southampton was THE big disappointment. We're not losing to the others around us and we're playing shite. Hopefully after the international break we'll have paddy back who improves us no end and Ayling won't be far off by then. Avoid defeat against Leicester and we might just turn the corner.

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That's the best way to look at it I suppose.
I just seems much worse than that right now.
MB's reaction at the final whistle said it all for me.
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I don't know if i will bother watching the game when its repeated tomorrow. Reading the comments it sounds like a woeful performance, not the confidence building performance i was hoping for. I have seen the highlights and Norwich looked more threatening in the mini highlights real and it looks like it took a clanger from Krul to bring home the 3 points.

Important 3 points none the less.
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Chilli D wrote: That's the best way to look at it I suppose.
I just seems much worse than that right now.
MB's reaction at the final whistle said it all for me.
Yeah, I'd love to hear what he was thinking at that moment or was it just the relief at winning.

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All this negativty yes we did not play well but at the end of the day it,s the result that matters.
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BGwhite wrote: ↑Sun Oct 31, 2021 6:39 pm The other way to look at our position...we've lost the fewest games of the bottom 6 teams and even the same as mid table wolves & Leicester. 3 of our defeats would've been expected, Southampton was THE big disappointment. We're not losing to the others around us and we're playing shite. Hopefully after the international break we'll have paddy back who improves us no end and Ayling won't be far off by then. Avoid defeat against Leicester and we might just turn the corner.

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That's a great positive post BG :)
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BGwhite wrote: ↑Sun Oct 31, 2021 6:54 pm Yeah, I'd love to hear what he was thinking at that moment or was it just the relief at winning.

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Perhaps he was wondering if he could stand up after being flattened by raf :lol:
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Leeds1000 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 31, 2021 6:53 pm I don't know if i will bother watching the game when its repeated tomorrow. Reading the comments it sounds like a woeful performance, not the confidence building performance i was hoping for. I have seen the highlights and Norwich looked more threatening in the mini highlights real and it looks like it took a clanger from Krul to bring home the 3 points.

Important 3 points none the less.
We did not play well but norwich were worse. The result to me was fair
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whiteswan wrote: Perhaps he was wondering if he could stand up after being flattened by raf Image
I was surprised he wasn't red carded for that Image

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Yes it’s clickbait, but might this be havng a detrimental effect on Kalvin? Catch22.

https://thisisfutbol.com/2021/10/blogs/ ... liverpool/
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Carrick Dave wrote: ↑Sun Oct 31, 2021 7:32 pm Yes it’s clickbait, but might this be havng a detrimental effect on Kalvin? Catch22.

https://thisisfutbol.com/2021/10/blogs/ ... liverpool/
You can't state his representatives are looking for a better deal and in the next breath say it's not about money. Twit Palmer!
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Carrick Dave wrote: ↑Sun Oct 31, 2021 7:32 pm Yes it’s clickbait, but might this be havng a detrimental effect on Kalvin? Catch22.

https://thisisfutbol.com/2021/10/blogs/ ... liverpool/
You could be right though Dave, contract talks could be a factor.
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whiteswan wrote: ↑Sun Oct 31, 2021 7:49 pm You can't state his representatives are looking for a better deal and in the next breath say it's not about money. Twit Palmer!
You obviously read further than I did. :)
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Very relieved with the result, we leave the embarrassment of been Norwich’s first win for some other poor sods. Not sure why they haven’t sacked the manager though, twice been the best team in the champ by some distance and twice fallen apart in the prem.

Last 6 games we are 8th in the form table which isn’t bad but we haven’t had the hardest run over that period. If we can say that after the next 6 then I will be happier.
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Only read a few pages of this thread.

Anyway, I watched the game on Sky.

First thing, I can't believe the amount of yellow cards flourished at our players, lack of yellows flowing the other way. Norwich players going down so easily, our players keeping going.

How come our last game Raphinha was made to hop off the pitch despite being injured, Norman today laid out on the pitch with physios etc tending to him... No consistency.

We had bursts of Bielsa ball today but that was all. Harrison was abysmal. Raphinha was head and shoulders above the rest but even he made numerous errors and managed to bowl over God during the game :lol:

What the hell does Geldhart need to do to be picked over Bielsa's love child Roberts??

We certainly deserved that win and I can see Norwich being turned over by 7 nil next game due to their over commital to this game!! :bear:
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