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Brighton & Hove Albion v Leeds United
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0–0
Premier League
27/11/2021
American Express Stadium
Leeds United
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All-time record vs Brighton & Hove Albion
54
Played
19
Won
15
Drawn
20
Lost
-4
GD
35%
Win %
Away record
28
Played
7
Won
7
Drawn
14
Lost
-14
GD
25%
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01/05/2021 American Express Stadium 2–0 L Premier League ↗
16/01/2021 Elland Road 0–1 L Premier League ↗
18/03/2017 Elland Road 2–0 W Championship ↗
09/12/2016 American Express Stadium 2–0 L Championship ↗
29/02/2016 American Express Stadium 4–0 L Championship ↗
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1 Ian Baird 5
2 Jermaine Beckford 3
3 Ross McCormack 3
4 John McCole 2
5 Luciano Becchio 2
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Goa Meslier
Def Llorente
Mid Phillips
Def Cooper ©
Def Firpo
Def Dallas
Mid Forshaw
For Moreno
Mid Harrison
Mid James
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Re: Brighton v Leeds Utd Match Thread - Raphinha, Rodrigo and Firpo Start

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60sUnited wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 7:59 pm Why would you use England's best holding midfield player at the back (and possibly piss him off in the process ) Bielsa has done a remarkable job for us over the past few years...BUT ??
We looked better once he went off tbh.

Said for ages something's gone on behind the scenes, he doesn't want to be here.
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Re: Brighton v Leeds Utd Match Thread - Raphinha, Rodrigo and Firpo Start

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Good hard battle point. Forshaw is a class player even after years injured. We always get beat by the seagulls but not today
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SG90 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 8:01 pm We looked better once he went off tbh.

Said for ages something's gone on behind the scenes, he doesn't want to be here.
Address the elephant in the room.

Players will never say it publicly.

But are they losing faith? It can't be easy to be thrashed physically and mentally for almost no reward and still maintain total loyalty

As fans we would like to think that players are blindly loyal to the man who got them here but that isn't the case in football and once doubts start to creep in this style will fall apart.
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Re: Brighton v Leeds Utd Match Thread - Raphinha, Rodrigo and Firpo Start

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Cjay wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 8:00 pm Ajax are far above us as you say but the performance were the clue imo.

You can lose and play well we have had 1 good performance since last season, Watford.

We can't play for 90mins and more worrying we are struggling to play 45mins.

Something isn't right, it hasn't been for a long time.

Can they fix it?
We’re poor atm a I said.

If it’s a minor superficial blip we can get past it, if it’s a deeper rooted malaise it remains to be seen. All sorts of variables, from players to management to ownership.

Here’s hoping.
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Re: Brighton v Leeds Utd Match Thread - Raphinha, Rodrigo and Firpo Start

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WhiteRose wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 7:03 pm You look forward to a a game all week and this is what we get - bored of it now let us back in the champ.
I really feel for all my pals at the game stood freezing their bollocks off watching a supposedly Premier League team performing like schoolboys.

To think I had an opportunity to go to the game, I'd have been fuming, I am now. Totally despaired with them tbh.
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1964white wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 8:07 pm I really feel for all my pals at the game stood freezing their bollocks off watching a supposedly Premier League team performing like schoolboys.

To think I had an opportunity to go to the game, I'd have been fuming, I am now. Totally despaired with them tbh.
Yeah bless all those faithful fans, above and beyond today for a sham of a performance!
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Re: Brighton v Leeds Utd Match Thread - Raphinha, Rodrigo and Firpo Start

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Probably be best to let Philips leave as we will get a better price than we will after relegation. MB, I fear have taken us as far as he can and all credit to him. At the end of the day its just another job to him and I truly think the board need to really decide if the Premier League is for them and if not hold their hands up and pass on to those with deeper pockets and ambition. The transfer dealings have been a joke, most of the players are not at this level and I can only see this going one way now.
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Cjay wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 8:04 pm Address the elephant in the room.

Players will never say it publicly.

But are they losing faith? It can't be easy to be thrashed physically and mentally for almost no reward and still maintain total loyalty

As fans we would like to think that players are blindly loyal to the man who got them here but that isn't the case in football and once doubts start to creep in this style will fall apart.
Nothing to suggest this is the case. Maybe it’s fickle fans who are losing faith?
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Cjay wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 8:04 pm Address the elephant in the room.

Players will never say it publicly.

But are they losing faith? It can't be easy to be thrashed physically and mentally for almost no reward and still maintain total loyalty

As fans we would like to think that players are blindly loyal to the man who got them here but that isn't the case in football and once doubts start to creep in this style will fall apart.
Yes I agree. Although the majority of these players would never have played PL football without Bielsa, so they are deluded. But this is why you freshen up the squad and keep it evolving.
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Stan wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 8:09 pm Probably be best to let Philips leave as we will get a better price than we will after relegation. MB, I fear have taken us as far as he can and all credit to him. At the end of the day its just another job to him and I truly think the board need to really decide if the Premier League is for them and if not hold their hands up and pass on to those with deeper pockets and ambition. The transfer dealings have been a joke, most of the players are not at this level and I can only see this going one way now.
Bloody hell, relegated before Christmas.
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John in Louisiana wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 7:05 pm Lamptey off

Thank goodness
How many times have I said in the past, 'our midfielders/defenders can't cope with pace'
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whiteswan wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 7:05 pm Most of the passing has been awful all game
WOEFUL, WOEFUL, WOEFUL :tup:
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Carrick Dave wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 8:10 pm Nothing to suggest this is the case. Maybe it’s fickle fans who are losing faith?
Based on this season would you blame them?
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We have just gone flat for whatever reason. Stamina? Talent? Unrest? Its almost like the players peaked last season and realized that was their maximum and have given in a little. We get glimpses like the first 45 last week but consistency has gone over the 90. We used to get stronger as the game wore on... no sign of that in the few games i have watched.

I think we are in a relegation fight. Any other team with a decent attacker today would have scored a couple. The way we are playing at the minute i'm not sure our savior PB will get much service either. We miss Ayling's balance, we miss Pablo's creativity and we miss Alioski's energy. The lb & rb positions are becoming a concern. Shack looked way off it today, Firpo was crap and i don't think its Dallas best position personally.

On to the next one a point better off.
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DDB220 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 7:05 pm Absolutely abysmal. We have gone backwards with the awful starting selection. It will be embarrassing to even think of nicking this.
Had we nicked that game, it would have been akin to The Great Train Robbery.
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Cjay wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 8:13 pm Based on this season would you blame them?
What do you expect exactly? We’re in our second PL season, but every point we drop it’s the end of the world.
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Maltawhite wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 7:05 pm Disagree. I think with our players we would have no chance with any other manager.
Probably not!

We look like relegation fodder.
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We were crap today but picked up a point we didn’t last year, but everyone’s ready to cut their wrists.
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Whitedog wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 7:06 pm Got slated last week for saying bielsa is done....I've been a Leeds fan for 50 years and this is terrible
Has to be up there as one of the worst performances in the top division in my 58 years watching Leeds.

I expected that type of display in the Championship/League One.
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1964white wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 8:15 pm Had we nicked that game, it would have been akin to The Great Train Robbery.
And yet we had the best chances somehow :duno:
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