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With Robin Koch back in training, Pascal Struijk close to fitness, Luke Ayling returning to the first team and Patrick Bamford making the bench against Brentford on Sunday, there was a small period of time when Marcelo Bielsa had practically a full squad to choose from. But that would come to an end after just 15 minutes of the came as Liam Cooper hobbled from the pitch. The situation would get worse just before the hour mark as Kalvin Phillips, usually one to brush off knocks with ease, also departed the field. The initial news on the injuries wasn’t good and it just seems to have got worse as the week has gone on with Leeds now having 6 players on the treatment table.

At the back, Liam Cooper picked up a hamstring strain, an injury which could keep him out for between three and nine weeks. Cooper undergone treatment and the club's medical staff will structure the next steps in his recovery. It sounds like it could be a lengthy lay off. Robin Koch has overcome his pelvic injury, but has been ill for the last 10 days and will resume training again at the weekend. With a 10 day ‘illness’ it could be Covid related, another setback in his lengthy return to fitness. Pascal Struijk is thought to have recovered enough from his hip injury to be available on Saturday.

Kalvin Phillips, like Liam Cooper, picked up a hamstring injury against Brentford. Football injury Ben Dinnery who runs the Premier Injuries website and has a background in medicine and data analysis says optimistically Phillips could be looking at six to eight weeks on the side-lines. But player fitness and Marcelo Bielsa murderball fitness are two completely different things. That said Kalvin Phillips usually recovers quickly with Marcelo Bielsa willing to put him in the side ahead of when other players would return. Bielsa also hinted that they may use this lay off to send Phillips for surgery on his shoulder after the injury he sustained against West Brom at the end of last season.





Up front Marcelo Bielsa’s options are very limited. Patrick Bamford suffered a hamstring injury during his last-minute goal celebration against Brentford at Elland Road. last Sunday. The evolution of the injury is subject to daily assessment but he could be facing a few weeks on the side-lines. Record signing Rodrigo has also been suffering from bilateral heel pain for some time. The player and medical staff have deemed it necessary to reduce his activity for the time being, in order to aid his long-term recovery.

With Leeds heading to Stamford Bridge to face Chelsea this weekend, Marcelo Bielsa will have to shuffle his deck again. Pascal Struijk could be fit enough to start alongside Diego Llorente, he could call upon the services of youngster Charlie Cresswell or Luke Ayling could step inside again as he did last weekend. With Kalvin Phillips out, Adam Forshaw could fill in at defensive midfield with the ever versatile Stuart Dallas stepping back into midfield. Tyler Roberts will be filled with confidence following his goal and is likely to start up top, but could there be more game time for Joe Gelhardt?

Leeds United’s lean squad has always been a concern but with two (potentially three) players facing long layoffs, do Leeds need to consider bringing in reinforcements next month or are our talented youngsters good enough to step up during this difficult time?
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Oh good it keeps getting better

So we have broken Rodrigo.

Koch is poorly

Bamford is an idiot and injured himself.

kp and Cooper and broken as well.

Makes a mockery of the idea Bielsa doesn't play unfit players, Rodrigo just joins the long list of injured players we have used.

Bamford, Klich etc.

Small squad, no rotation, intense training, totally predictable
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Players get injured ...next man up. There's always a next man and MB prepares well
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Cjay wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 12:14 pm Oh good it keeps getting better

So we have broken Rodrigo.

Koch is poorly

Bamford is an idiot and injured himself.

kp and Cooper and broken as well.

Makes a mockery of the idea Bielsa doesn't play unfit players, Rodrigo just joins the long list of injured players we have used.

Bamford, Klich etc.

Small squad, no rotation, intense training, totally predictable
Bamford is indeed an idiot! I'm still fuming about his self inflicted injury!
He should be fined the amount of money that he's out for..... :x
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faaip wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 12:48 pm Players get injured ...next man up. There's always a next man and MB prepares well
I do genuinely like your optimism faaip. Let's hope you are right.
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whiteswan wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 1:02 pm I do genuinely like your optimism faaip. Let's hope you are right.
I do think Marcelo is very good at preparation for this sort of thing, U23's play the same system, frequently train with the firsts. And the multi position quality MB abides by will help too. They're all of good quality and not one U23 has filled in and let us down. Indeed frequently drawing admiration and high MOTM marks here
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We're not struggling with depth, we're struggling with positional issues with the reminder defences usually need a few games to gel. We need a period of consistent teams selection

But it is what it is, Players don't choose to get injured or unwell, it's just down to luck if they do. Unless they're Frenching someone with typhoid or base jumping without a parachute
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faaip wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 1:17 pm I do think Marcelo is very good at preparation for this sort of thing, U23's play the same system, frequently train with the firsts. And the multi position quality MB abides by will help too. They're all of good quality and not one U23 has filled in and let us down. Indeed frequently drawing admiration and high MOTM marks here
Bielsa may prepare well, however the majority of our U23's are not ready for first-team football.

Having our best players out generally results in us not winning games.

God help us if Llorente breaks down or Meslier become unavailable.
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1964white wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 1:51 pm Bielsa may prepare well, however the majority of our U23's are not ready for first-team football.

Having our best players out generally results in us not winning games.

God help us if Llorente breaks down or Meslier become unavailable.
My God you are right, we could become like Brentford and their injury list
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faaip wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 1:25 pm We're not struggling with depth, we're struggling with positional issues with the reminder defences usually need a few games to gel. We need a period of consistent teams selection

But it is what it is, Players don't choose to get injured or unwell, it's just down to luck if they do. Unless they're Frenching someone with typhoid or base jumping without a parachute
Playing players in different positions is not the way to success

The majority of our players are one footed, so learning to play in unnatural positions must be even tougher.

Only Phillips & Dallas have successfully mastered Bielsa's trait, the rest have generally been ineffective.

We lose Ayling bombing down the right flank when he is at CB & we don't win games generally when he plays as a CB.

All this switching players about is annoying & a hindrance, only happens because we haven't got a proper squad, contrary to your opinion.
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rab_rant wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 2:01 pm My God you are right, we could become like Brentford and their injury list
I don't expect you, Faaip or the rest of the 'Bielsa gets it right fan club' to agree with me.

Right now, we are in a pickle, a mess to be honest & if you can't see that, it's your opinion.

Fans who attend Leeds games every week recognise the problems!
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1964white wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 1:51 pm Bielsa may prepare well, however the majority of our U23's are not ready for first-team football.

Having our best players out generally results in us not winning games.

God help us if Llorente breaks down or Meslier become unavailable.
As a team no, as a couple of 23's coming in then yes.. But it sounds like you're saying Gelhardt isn't ready, Cresswell isn't ready, Drameh isn't ready, Summerville isn't ready. You won't know if they're ready till they've played a few games and those that have played first team have all played well.

Koch for Llorente, he maybe a better CD anyway. When Meslier came in he was an untried kid in the 23's ... No reason to assume Klaesson isn't as good ....

Now maybe if we have 20-30 first teamers out on injury we would struggle but then so would any team
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1964white wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 2:05 pm Playing players in different positions is not the way to success

The majority of our players are one footed, so learning to play in unnatural positions must be even tougher.

Only Phillips & Dallas have successfully mastered Bielsa's trait, the rest have generally been ineffective.

We lose Ayling bombing down the right flank when he is at CB & we don't win games generally when he plays as a CB.

All this switching players about is annoying & a hindrance, only happens because we haven't got a proper squad, contrary to your opinion.
If you don't like players out of positions you need to reconsider all your Bielsa conclusions because you're not going to find it easy to play for him UNLESS you can play 2/3 different positions...

You appear to have turned from Bielsa is great to Bielsa is wrong ... How much longer til Bielsa must go ...
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Oh dear. Now we know why our £30m star has not been performing we bought him with a saw heel. Put your hands up if you are looking forward to seeing Creswell & Joffy more, possibly Bate and who knows even Jenkins may be trusted.
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faaip wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 2:24 pm As a team no, as a couple of 23's coming in then yes.. But it sounds like you're saying Gelhardt isn't ready, Cresswell isn't ready, Drameh isn't ready, Summerville isn't ready. You won't know if they're ready till they've played a few games and those that have played first team have all played well.

Koch for Llorente, he maybe a better CD anyway. When Meslier came in he was an untried kid in the 23's ... No reason to assume Klaesson isn't as good ....

Now maybe if we have 20-30 first teamers out on injury we would struggle but then so would any team
Gelhardt & Cresswell are ready imo! Unsure about the rest.

I have good reason Klaesson isn't ready after regularly watching the U23's, there seems to be a mistake in him every game, like Meslier the defenders in front of him can't give him much confidence!

As for Koch, I believe he's only played one full game (maybe two) as a CB for Leeds.
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Well we won't know till they play, and if you go back and look at U23's that have started/played under Bielsa you'll notice they all play well as fill ins.. Even Leif Davis
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faaip wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 2:26 pm If you don't like players out of positions you need to reconsider all your Bielsa conclusions because you're not going to find it easy to play for him UNLESS you can play 2/3 different positions...

You appear to have turned from Bielsa is great to Bielsa is wrong ... How much longer til Bielsa must go ...
Apart from Phillips & Dallas whom have excelled in different positions, I'm not at all enamoured with the rest of our squad playing out of their natural position.

Bielsa has achieved great things at Leeds & I truly hope he continues to do so.

Marcelo leaves tomorrow & as a club we are in deeper trouble.

Does that answer your Beilsa question?
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faaip wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 4:36 pm Well we won't know till they play, and if you go back and look at U23's that have started/played under Bielsa you'll notice they all play well as fill ins.. Even Leif Davis
You make a great point there, Faaip

Gelhardt looks ready-made imo, however in his three appearances Raphinha hasn't been on the park. Joe has not played alongside Ayling & Bamford or Phillips (in is DM role) too!
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