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Liverpool v Leeds United
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23/02/2022
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123
Played
28
Won
33
Drawn
62
Lost
-86
GD
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59
Played
8
Won
14
Drawn
37
Lost
-75
GD
14%
Win %
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12/09/2021 Elland Road 0–3 L Premier League ↗
19/04/2021 Elland Road 1–1 D Premier League ↗
12/09/2020 Anfield 4–3 L Premier League ↗
29/11/2016 Anfield 2–0 L EFL Cup 5th Round ↗
22/09/2009 Elland Road 0–1 L Carling Cup 3rd Round ↗
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2 Mick Jones 6
3 Mark Viduka 6
4 Harry Duggan 5
5 Russell Wainscoat 5
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Def Ayling ©
Def Struijk
Def Firpo
Mid Forshaw
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For Moreno
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Re: Liverpool V Leeds Utd Match Thread

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Overman wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 8:42 am That's how far our expectations have dropped, when it's a case of how many will we concede. If your defensive unit isn't strong in this league, then you're relegation fodder. So we work on the premise of out scoring the opponent, but don't have the players capable of this. This will go down to the wire.
True Overman :tup:

When Bielsa adopted a more pragmatic approach in the last 10 matches last season we truly looked like we belonged at this level. It generated good performances and results against the top sides, so why abandon that?

We miss the presence of KP, but for how many matches was he our sole performer in central midfield this season? He's not a miracle worker.

We need to offer resistance in midfield and defence. At the moment we've got quality midfielders having the run of the park against us, we're not tracking runners and can't defend, or score from set-pieces. These are basic essentials that we are not doing every week.
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1964white wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 10:15 am I got slaughtered for criticising our pre-season even though I suspect I was one of a select few who actually watched all the games.

Apparently, pre-season games are all about fitness. I could see we weren't as fluent from the onset & by this season had started for real, we were nowhere near ready for the rigours of Premier League football.
You didn't get slaughtered by me Leon.

The argument that it's for fitness only washes if your players display greater fitness than their opponents, we haven't done that this season. That Ajax match was enough for me, we were all over the shop.

We didn't do the recruitment we've needed to improve this squad over the last 3 windows.

We've also got a coach that thinks our players are on a par with Citeh, Chelsea, Scum and Liverpool, when they clearly aren't.

If he would be prepared to compromise and change our tactics I believe we would have a better points total this season.
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White Riot wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 6:15 pm You didn't get slaughtered by me Leon.

The argument that it's for fitness only washes if your players display greater fitness than their opponents, we haven't done that this season. That Ajax match was enough for me, we were all over the shop.

We didn't do the recruitment we've needed to improve this squad over the last 3 windows.

We've also got a coach that thinks our players are on a par with Citeh, Chelsea, Scum and Liverpool, when they clearly aren't.

If he would be prepared to compromise and change our tactics I believe we would have a better points total this season.
Exactly mate
His stubbornness and the lack of investment may cost us big time
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White Riot wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 6:15 pm We've also got a coach that thinks our players are on a par with Citeh, Chelsea, Scum and Liverpool, when they clearly aren't.
You'd have to be off your head to even contemplate that :roll:
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1964white wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 6:20 pm You'd have to be off your head to even contemplate that :roll:
You're saying !
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faaip wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 6:27 pmJesus
Its relentless
Marsch OUT

Football has undergone a process of bielsification; pressing and possessing, passing rather than dribbling, intercepting high up the field rather than making last-ditch tackles, are in vogue.

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1964white wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 6:20 pm You'd have to be off your head to even contemplate that :roll:
We have got a few that are possibly of that standard: Meslier, Struijk, KP, Raphinha and Paddy.

But that's not a full team, plus back ups.

The pearls that we may have are continually spurned: Bate, Cresswell and Gelhardt.

Players as young as them have played at a young age in the EPL: Rooney, Giggs, Shearer, Scholes, Butt, Fowler, Owen, Kewell, Stirling, Lampard, etc. If you're good enough you're old enough.
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velo wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 6:22 pm You're saying !
There's a thin line between madness and sheer bloody mindedness
Or apparent genius :geek:
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faaip wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 6:27 pmJesus
In centre midfield?
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White Riot wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 6:31 pm Or apparent genius :geek:
Maybe 9 months ago I though he was, but now I think it's sheer stubborness
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No Llorente tonight.

Looks like Ayling at CB and Dallas on the right?

My screen has Harrison as CB and that cant be right...
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Two changes - Raphinha and Firpo in for Koch and Llorente.
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William wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 6:49 pm No Llorente tonight.

Looks like Ayling at CB and Dallas on the right?

My screen has Harrison as CB and that cant be right...
Correct, Harrison LW
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Llorente not even on the bench. Must be injured.
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Re: Liverpool V Leeds Utd Match Thread

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Nice, the Injury list needed a freshen up Koch and llorente added and firpo good for a start.

Seems bonkers not to bring cresswell in and have ayling CB instead, should have dallas in midfield in place of Rodrigo, far too attacking for away at Liverpool but in Bielsa we trust I guess.
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Cresswell blah blah blah
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Re: Liverpool V Leeds Utd Match Thread - Raphinha and Firpo Start

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Yep, Game for Cresswell to start.

Looking on positive side could be an ok night if Spurs bt Burnley and Watford don't beat Palace
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Re: Liverpool V Leeds Utd Match Thread - Raphinha and Firpo Start

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William wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 7:01 pm Cresswell blah blah blah
Care to elaborate?
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