Marcelo Bielsa

[whiteswan]

That would be a disgrace (but I floated that possibility the other day) it happens and probably happened here to.

Ahem.
I did say last week that possibly the players had given up......or given up on Bielsa....

[Cjay]

Ahem.
I did say last week that possibly the players had given up......or given up on Bielsa....

You did.

Didnt say i was alone tbf.

But you to did float that unpopular possibility also.

Section of our fans will never believe it even if Phil was to write an article on it in due course but players throw managers under the bus all the time, no reason to suspect ours would be different.

[John in Louisiana]

No clamour from me.

That man made me love football again.
Made me think more deeply about what is important when dealing with other human beings again.
Made me think a bit deeper on a few levels.
Restructured our club from the grassroots up.

There is more to say and if we give ourselves the room perhaps it can be said.

But Leeds United, the City of Leeds and the fambase are poorer tonight than we were yesterday

This.

[whiteswan]

He's really touched my heart in a way I never expected from someone in football. An absolute ray of hope and decency in a tawdry world of shite. I've felt so proud and excited to have him as the manager of Leeds. I'm crying as I write this, so can't say any more.

He's a fabulous human being....
Don't think it's over yet Sara, you never know.....dry your tears. We go again.....

[Jonathanbo]

He's not gone, his legacy should be keeping us up in adversity. Even Napoleon had to change, you cannot get battered every week and keep moral up. The mark of a manager is to adapt. Not to see this is a fault. Obviously tons of credit to MB it however it would be a tragedy if the excellent foundations built were washed away for the lack of a little practicality when required.

It is Required

[Mountain]

Inspired.

He changed how I view football. It was such an ugly game where money counters with little imagination relied on stock phrases like "it's all about results" to justify hoofball and parking busses. And clubs saw players solely in terms of value on the balance sheet.

For a while he allowed us all to dream. Leeds could be the first club to tear up that rule, to play beautiful football, to make not just better players but better people, to inspire a club, a city, the game. It was like sunlight not just on Elland Road or Leeds, but on football, and everyone warmed to it. Finally, this was the beautiful game.

To see it all go back to "it's all about results/relegation will see the club lose lots of money/let's get Big Sam", and so quickly, is grim. It's like that sunshine has been switched off.

When Forest went down the crowd stayed for ages afterwards to cheer Clough. To this day it always struck me as very classy, a club that behaved correctly and went down with their figurehead. I saw a post today with "sack the c**t" here and it depressed me. If Leeds have axed Bielsa, the romance is over, it's back to just being a normal football club again, back to the routine of knifing the figurehead first while everyone else, owners, players, accountants, lawyers, agents, shrugs their shoulders.

It's back to being ugly.

[velo]

Mb gave me the hope that the game could be played in a honest trustworthy way, but it seams the officials and perhaps the PL & EFL are just corrupt, I feel for Bielsa, he's true gentlemen, but his stubborness has robbed him and us of something that we have all dreamed of.

[joelufc20]

What Bielsa has done is nothing short of amazing. He lifted the spirits of all the Leeds fans in the country, cured my mental health issues with the high press and generally put a smile on my face. He will always go down as a legend in my eyes. The thing is in football it’s a results business. I think the board have sold him down the river this year and also some of the players need to feel ashamed of themselves with their dire performances and errors. In life all good things come to an end and if we stay up we can be proud of his overall achievements. It is unfortunately time to go, I just can’t see him turning it around. What a time we have had though. My favourite moment was Blackburn at home 2-1 down at 90 mins, we win 3-2. I was there it was amazing.

[Kennyb41]

What a knob

Can i please just ask the mods here what is acceptable and what isn't, are you on my case because some TSB members are here or what, first i referred to someone as a clown and got a wrist slap, but buffoon is ok.

And now this ^ Knob is ok yes?...Or have you got somebody jumping all over you the moment i jump on somebody, what is it?

You obviously have Dirty Leeds here from across the road trying desperately to get me banned here and he will have brought it to the attention of the other knobs across the road who will all stick their oar in, so if you're moderating me, can we please have a level playing field.

[Kennyb41]

I'm clinging on to hope here, I think the damn Yanks who know fck all about football are interfering and threatening, i had a bad feeling this is what would happen as soon as they came onboard.

The hope i'm clinging to is that Radz and Orta are trying to persuade them that the only chance we have is to stick with Bert and the only style these players know how to play, other than that we are fcked, and we maybe fcked for a helluva long time, coz we will not bounce straight back with these players and without Bert and definitely without our key players.

[1964white]

Please can we be nice to one another in these stressful times

Name-calling makes for unpleasant reading, folks

[Mountain]

Yea Yea whatever, hope fatboy gets the sack

Looks like you got your wish!

[velo]

Please can we be nice to one another in these stressful times

Name-calling makes for unpleasant reading, folks

To put this all into perspective, people are dying in Ukraine and you are arguing about who runs our club FFS

[hector]

Kenny, to answer your question, we do not like insults to other members, however we take a more tolerant view on matchdays, and on the matchday thread, due to emotions being heated during the pressure of the match. If we were to be strict, we would probably not have any members left after a match..

Quick questions, who are the TSB members on here?
and who is Dirty Leeds?

If you don't wish to say on teh open forum,, PM me. TA

[velo]

Kenny, to answer your question, we do not like insults to other members, however we take a more tolerant view on matchdays, and on the matchday thread, due to emotions being heated during the pressure of the match. If we were to be strict, we would probably not have any members left after a match..

Quick questions, who are the TSB members on here?
and who is Dirty Leeds?

If you don't wish to say on teh open forum,, PM me. TA

Here we go again, I feel I'll get banned for saying what everyone thinks AGAIN

[Kennyb41]

Yes i will PM you 64, not atm coz i'm too stressed and passionate not wanting Bert to be sacked.

Cjay is not one of them, and i want to take this opportunity to apologise to him just for having totally different view on the Leeds situation than me, and acknowledge that he's totally entitled to that view and he does express it well even though i feel it's totally wrong.

And yes to some others, i'm man enough to do that and not a crawler as some will be thinking.

[hector]

Here we go again, I feel I'll get banned for saying what everyone thinks AGAIN

What are you on about? I have not mentioned you anywhere....

[velo]

What are you on about? I have not mentioned you anywhere....

I'm Physic

[hector]

I'm Physic

More like paranoid mush......

[velo]

More like paranoid mush......

Nah, Realist, only smudge was allowed to bully you