Summer 2022 transfer speculation and squad discussion

[SG90]

Phil Hay has reiterated the interest in Brenden Aaronson, Calvin Ramsey and James Garner.

The Garner one is interesting.

He is someone who Manure may try to use as a bargaining chip for KP?

Had an excellent season for Forest tbf Garner.

4 goals and 8 assists

Zero chance of Aaronson now, and Ramsay will be elsewhere.

I like the look of Scott Twine from MK Dons, and I don't think he'd be too costly.

[Cjay]

Zero chance of Aaronson now, and Ramsay will be elsewhere.

I like the look of Scott Twine from MK Dons, and I don't think he'd be too costly.

[SG90]

Well get used to it, because that's the kind of market we'll be shopping in.

I thought you wanted to be in the Championship anyway?

[1964white]

Until we know what league we're in, this thread is more or less redundant

[Cjay]

Well get used to it, because that's the kind of market we'll be shopping in.

I thought you wanted to be in the Championship anyway?

As an alternative to being an unambitious Premier League team then I'd consider promotion chasing more fun.

But I'd much rather be an ambitious Premier League team.

Nothing fun about being an unambitious Premier League team as this season shows

[Cjay]

Until we know what league we're in, this thread is more or less redundant

Surely this thread is the most relevant thread on the forum at the moment?

[1964white]

Surely this thread is the most relevant thread on the forum at the moment?

Well we can discuss either & or I suppose.

Let's face we made championship signings last summer

[Cjay]

Well we can discuss either & or I suppose.

Let's face we made championship signings last summer

This is the Summer transfer thread but your comment is under this thread but has the Relegation thread title

Confused

[1964white]

I move the posts to the relevant topic after I had posted on the wrong thread, Cjay

[Cjay]

It's been mentioned a few times but I think some of our fans may be slightly in denial about how bad relegation may be for us.

It's been reported most of our players have release clauses.

So Raph, KP etc won't be going for £100mil+, likely to be nearer £50mil the pair.

Even people like Meslier, Llorente, Rodrigo etc all will go for likely less than we would like.

The club is rumoured to be mortgaged to the hilt backed by Premier League revenue to over £120million.

Without Premier League revenue you have to found that money somehow to pay the debt. Radz and the venture capitalists won't pay it so how do you do it?

Premier League parachute payments in year 1 is apparently around £50mil.

That still leaves atleast £70million to find.

So first and foremost player sales will have to go towards that.

And with release clauses it's likely to swallow up the KP, Raph and probably someone like Meslier money as well.

And those are our 3 most valuable assets and after that we haven't much else.

Struijk has seen a drastic downturn in form.
Bamford has been injured for ages and has likely developed a bit of a sicknote reputation.
Rodrigo is an ageing flop on significant wages whose reputation has dipped significantly since he arrived.
Llorente is 29 nearly with again a bit of a sick note reputation.
Koch has just been to injury prone.

I think relegation would be a disaster for us.

[1964white]

It's been mentioned a few times but I think some of our fans may be slightly in denial about how bad relegation may be for us.

It's been reported most of our players have release clauses.

So Raph, KP etc won't be going for £100mil+, likely to be nearer £50mil the pair.

Even people like Meslier, Llorente, Rodrigo etc all will go for likely less than we would like.

The club is rumoured to be mortgaged to the hilt backed by Premier League revenue to over £120million.

Without Premier League revenue you have to found that money somehow to pay the debt. Radz and the venture capitalists won't pay it so how do you do it?

Premier League parachute payments in year 1 is apparently around £50mil.

That still leaves atleast £70million to find.

So first and foremost player sales will have to go towards that.

And with release clauses it's likely to swallow up the KP, Raph and probably someone like Meslier money as well.

And those are our 3 most valuable assets and after that we haven't much else.

Struijk has seen a drastic downturn in form.
Bamford has been injured for ages and has likely developed a bit of a sicknote reputation.
Rodrigo is an ageing flop on significant wages whose reputation has dipped significantly since he arrived.
Llorente is 29 nearly with again a bit of a sick note reputation.
Koch has just been to injury prone.

I think relegation would be a disaster for us.

So we won't be doing a Fulham, Norwich or a Watford.

Normal service would resume in the championship.

[Cjay]

So we won't be doing a Fulham, Norwich or a Watford.

Normal service would resume in the championship.

If it's true I'd imagine the chances of doing an instant return are slim.

Gessa I saw mentioned the debt as well.

Seen quite a few mention it so surely everyone isn't wrong?

[Kennyb41]

So we won't be doing a Fulham, Norwich or a Watford.

Normal service would resume in the championship.

Normal service ?

Bert's gone pal, and we've still got most of the gash that he somehow last time got us up with, i'm not 100% but didn't we have about 7 managers try and fail prior ?.....Oh Jeez it's gonna be a long haul back, i hope you enjoy your footy 64, you're used to it aren't you and i know you'll follow them through thin and thin.

No it's not a typo.

[CarelessAir]

If it's true, and if the 49ers also pull the plug, I have a feeling Radz will go crawling back to QSI, but that bridge has probably been burnt now too.

[Scoobychief]

Most on here knew that worst case senario if we got relegated that meslier raph and philips would be sold for bargain prices and it seems now that will definately be the case, those 3 wont stay and we will be lucky to get 70m for all 3. also big earners like rodrigo and llorente possibly koch will also move on, now that will leave the dross who are at best championship material anyway but who are burned out anyway. and all that money spent on the under 23 just so that they could uncover a Raphinha has also backired on them and they too got relegated, so we will start off int the championship with 1/2 a squad and defo the likes of joffy, bates, and the ones who have had a part from the under 23 looking like being regulars. if thats the case then i can see it being quite a while before we get a promotion again, and also depends who will be owners of the club too. Can't see Radzs staying or the 49ners ploughing money into the club for promotion, hope im totally wrong, but its looking like once we are down we will be raided from all sides from the likes of Newcastle, Arsenal, Spurs etc

[hector]

Why so much gloom??

Just because there is a release clause of £25M it doesn't mean that is what they will sell for..........

All that means is that is what is needed to start a bidding war....

Not even Radz would be stupid enough to sell KP and Raph to the first bidder.......... Woiuld he??

[Cjay]

Why so much gloom??

Just because there is a release clause of £25M it doesn't mean that is what they will sell for..........

All that means is that is what is needed to start a bidding war....

Not even Radz would be stupid enough to sell KP and Raph to the first bidder.......... Woiuld he??

He wouldn't have a choice.

A release clause is exactly that.

It is a set fee that a club have to accept.

A player doesn't have to accept the buying clubs terms contract wise but we would have no say in the matter.

If the clause is £25mil then that is all any club has to pay, no bidding war, £25mil, that's it.

[SG90]

It's been mentioned a few times but I think some of our fans may be slightly in denial about how bad relegation may be for us.

It's been reported most of our players have release clauses.

So Raph, KP etc won't be going for £100mil+, likely to be nearer £50mil the pair.

Even people like Meslier, Llorente, Rodrigo etc all will go for likely less than we would like.

The club is rumoured to be mortgaged to the hilt backed by Premier League revenue to over £120million.

Without Premier League revenue you have to found that money somehow to pay the debt. Radz and the venture capitalists won't pay it so how do you do it?

Premier League parachute payments in year 1 is apparently around £50mil.

That still leaves atleast £70million to find.

So first and foremost player sales will have to go towards that.

And with release clauses it's likely to swallow up the KP, Raph and probably someone like Meslier money as well.

And those are our 3 most valuable assets and after that we haven't much else.

Struijk has seen a drastic downturn in form.
Bamford has been injured for ages and has likely developed a bit of a sicknote reputation.
Rodrigo is an ageing flop on significant wages whose reputation has dipped significantly since he arrived.
Llorente is 29 nearly with again a bit of a sick note reputation.
Koch has just been to injury prone.

I think relegation would be a disaster for us.

Huh? Are you saying the club have mortgaged tv money for next season or this season? If the former, then it just gets worse for Radz. And people think he is a good owner!

According to the Daily Fail, KP, Raph and Bamford all have £30m release clauses. Can't see Kalvin being true as he hasn't signed a PL contract.

[hector]

not to worry... We are chasing Adama again..... didn't Victor know him at Middlesborough??

[Cjay]

Huh? Are you saying the club have mortgaged tv money for next season or this season? If the former, then it just gets worse for Radz. And people think he is a good owner!

According to the Daily Fail, KP, Raph and Bamford all have £30m release clauses. Can't see Kalvin being true as he hasn't signed a PL contract.

The Times reported it as well, they are very reliable, more so than the Mail.

I don't know the details but it's common practice for clubs to take loans out to receive money in one go and then they use the expected money as a guarantee.

So Leicester have done it loads over the years to the tune of £200-300million from some Australian bank.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.leic ... 419639.amp

Our last accounts showed we owed over £100mil to various things and I wouldn't be at all surprised if Radz has done similar to what Leicester do given how much he talks about there model.