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It seamed to take 30 mins for KP to get going today
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Think with KP especially the lack of rest first cos of the covid situation and then with internationals has been the biggest factor as he hasn't had a break in the last 2 summers. To go from a bit part player to playing nearly every match and then international matches on top was the biggest factor. So yes Bielsa is to blame for making him into such a good player, without Bielsa he's plodding around in league 1 or league 2 so would have plenty of rest.
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Dunno about everyone else but im bloddy well worn out too.
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It was not a good day for Phillips against Arsenal. He looked tired and useless out there. Just floating around and not finding a way to impact the match. Covid and a lack of rest could be a major factor. We see that a lot with USA Internationals where the demands of a European season combined with transatlantic flights every window wears players down.
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BlackHillsPaul wrote: Mon May 09, 2022 3:54 pm It was not a good day for Phillips against Arsenal. He looked tired and useless out there. Just floating around and not finding a way to impact the match. Covid and a lack of rest could be a major factor. We see that a lot with USA Internationals where the demands of a European season combined with transatlantic flights every window wears players down.

Nope i'm afraid it's none of that Paul.

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Kennyb41 wrote: Mon May 09, 2022 3:58 pm Nope i'm afraid it's none of that Paul.

Bert's gone, yes it's that simple and was stated by yours truly as soon as he went.
Or just maybe he is an overrated player that worked well in a specific system. Had a nice Euro. And then like most players that pull on an England shirt become insufferable egomaniacs.....So now the whole thing is beneath him. :)
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BlackHillsPaul wrote: Mon May 09, 2022 4:11 pm Or just maybe he is an overrated player that worked well in a specific system. Had a nice Euro. And then like most players that pull on an England shirt become insufferable egomaniacs.....So now the whole thing is beneath him. :)
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BlackHillsPaul wrote: Mon May 09, 2022 4:11 pm Or just maybe he is an overrated player that worked well in a specific system. Had a nice Euro. And then like most players that pull on an England shirt become insufferable egomaniacs.....So now the whole thing is beneath him. :)
My god, I hope that isn't the case with my Kalvin :(
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1964white wrote: Mon May 09, 2022 5:48 pm My god, I hope that isn't the case with my Kalvin :(
Pure speculation on my part. A bit tongue in cheek to be sure. And yet KP was absolute shite yesterday. Looked like he couldn't be bothered....
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1964white wrote: Mon May 09, 2022 5:48 pm My god, I hope that isn't the case with my Kalvin :(
Sadly I think it is. He's turned into a real playboy now. England duty has turned his head. :(
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Football is such a cynical game now. The gulf between players and fans is so vast and reality, at least for them is fake. There is no reality on 100k a week.
Same as golf my other favourite sport. The players greed is a disgrace and there are few decent ones left. Rory McIlroy is the nicest most down to earth bloke. Loaded yes but he hasn't forgotten where he's come from. Who's his footy equivalent? Not KP then by the looks
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Jaydog wrote: Mon May 09, 2022 6:36 pm Football is such a cynical game now. The gulf between players and fans is so vast and reality, at least for them is fake. There is no reality on 100k a week.
Same as golf my other favourite sport. The players greed is a disgrace and there are few decent ones left. Rory McIlroy is the nicest most down to earth bloke. Loaded yes but he hasn't forgotten where he's come from. Who's his footy equivalent? Not KP then by the looks
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His value is dropping by the game.

Is he unfit?
Is he tired?
Is he just not as good as we thought?

A change of system shouldn't make that much difference.

One trick pony?
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Cjay wrote: Sun May 15, 2022 7:25 pm His value is dropping by the game.

Is he unfit?
Is he tired?
Is he just not as good as we thought?

A change of system shouldn't make that much difference.

One trick pony?
Been out for how long?
Imo he needs a pre season.

Form is temporary etc.
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Bit of a moot point anyway as he won't be here next season anyway regardless.
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Every day on the BBC footy site it’s Villa saying that Kalvin is top of their shopping list. Better keep an eye on them when they’re in Oz. No chance though as would only be for money as Villa are a crab side. Only ever sideways.
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Reports growing that Kalvin Phillips is the choosen replacement for Fernandinho at Manchester City.

£80mil and Yangel Herrera.
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QUESTION: Last summer during the European Championship Phillips paired with Declan Rice. I recall watching some good performances but my memory is not good enough to remember the details. Someone break down for me how those two played together.
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Kalvin in the England squad


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Not entirely sure he's earned that, but maybe Southgate sees him as perhaps being fresher than others, given he's been out for a quite a bit.
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