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Re: Johnny Depp vs Amber Heard

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Cjay wrote: ↑Thu Jun 02, 2022 6:57 pm So are you saying Depp is totally innocent Weasel?

I don't believe he is squeaky clean.

May be wrong.

I don't doubt she isn't nice but is he an innocent victim?
I think they had a lot of arguments. Certianly he will have called her things, smashed up furniture etc. Whether he hit her I couldn't say, but from snippets of audio from them arguing I would certainly lean towards saying he hadn't, just things like how he reacted during the arguments (when they were alone) and him wanting to get out of the room etc. Her not letting him and taunting him certainly doesn't make me think she was afraid of him or that she thought he would hit her. Her buying him a large knife as a present. Her calling him Johhny when she was in the court - I'm sorry but if somebody has been hitting you you wouldn't be calling him by his first name, you would be saying he or him not giving him a friendly name - he also refererred to her as Miss Heard.

From the arguments they had though I wouldn't rule out him having slapped her or something, more in a self defence, or initial retaliation, sort of way when she was hitting him and screaming at him. But if that had happened I think it would have been a one off where he snapped under intense provocation rather than doing it in an abuse way.

It is noticeable that not one of his exes, including one very bitter one, said he had hit them. Nobody else, male or female, employee etc has come forward to say he has hit them. Even Heard's lawyers didn't seem convince with part of their closing argument basically saying you don't need to believe everything Heard had said just to believe one story of abuse. It just seemed that she just invented more and more to try to be believed and in doing so just caught herself in the tangled web of lies she had woven.
Cjay wrote: ↑Sat May 17, 2025 4:23 pm I've pretended to support a team that's been crap for most of my life as part of a long term plan
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Cjay wrote: ↑Thu Jun 02, 2022 6:57 pm This article seems to suggest a large part of the win was down to his deeper pockets and better lawyers and a campaign of PR and whatnot.

Hope that isn't the case.
His lawyers were better than hers but that I felt was predominantly down to the facts of the case. It wasn't like Johnny's lawyers cost £10m and hers were working pro bono (for free). I think a lot of the time Heard was her worst enemy and her lawyers were having to react to things she said which were digging holes deeper for herself - a case of her thinking she was being smart by coming up with a new lie and inventing something that her lawyers then had to try to justify. A big example was her coming up with a ludicrous suggestion that a reason why she had punched Johhny in front of witnesses was becuase she thought he was going to push her sister down some steps (the same sister who has stated that Amber has hit her) becuase she had heard a rumour that Depp had pushed Kate Moss down some steps. Now on the face of it a great lie to use something that was an actual rumour to justify her punching him but what it actually meant was that Johnny's legal team could now bring Kate Moss in as a witness (they weren't allowed to do so but the second Head mentioned her name it meant they could). As such Depp's layyers called Moss to testify and she said it was a load of b*llox. That really hurt Heard's defence - Heard's lawyers didn't even cross examine Kate Moss it was that damning.
Cjay wrote: ↑Sat May 17, 2025 4:23 pm I've pretended to support a team that's been crap for most of my life as part of a long term plan
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Seriously?...... :sleep: :sleep: :sleep: :sleep: :sleep: :sleep: :sleep: :sleep: :sleep: :sleep:

Who on earth....gives a f***
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whiteswan wrote: ↑Thu Jun 02, 2022 7:32 pm Seriously?...... :sleep: :sleep: :sleep: :sleep: :sleep: :sleep: :sleep: :sleep: :sleep: :sleep:

Who on earth....gives a f***
Normally I wouldn't but imagine over here the damage it would do if a famous woman accused a famous man of physical abuse in their relationship and it was then revealed to be a pack of lies. It does so much harm to women being believed.
Cjay wrote: ↑Sat May 17, 2025 4:23 pm I've pretended to support a team that's been crap for most of my life as part of a long term plan
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whiteswan wrote: ↑Thu Jun 02, 2022 7:32 pm Seriously?...... :sleep: :sleep: :sleep: :sleep: :sleep: :sleep: :sleep: :sleep: :sleep:

Who on earth....gives a f***
Precisely Swannie.

I've only read the thread as it's part of my mod duties.

Can't believe the sordid lives of this vile couple has gone into two pages, whereas you can post up a topic about LUFC which struggles to get any comments. :?
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1964white wrote: ↑Thu Jun 02, 2022 8:43 pm Precisely Swannie.

I've only read the thread as it's part of my mod duties.

Can't believe the sordid lives of this vile couple has gone into two pages, whereas you can post up a topic about LUFC which struggles to get any comments. :?
Well why bother to comment on a topic if you have no interest in it? Why has Whiteswan read it, and why have you posted on it if you both have no interest - it is hardly like the thread topic is misleading?
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As i started the thread I Will justify it . . . . .

It's topical.

It matters to millions of people as the tweets and articles show.

Do I care greatly?

Not really.

But other readers on this forum may so I created the thread.
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weasel wrote: ↑Thu Jun 02, 2022 7:28 pm His lawyers were better than hers but that I felt was predominantly down to the facts of the case. It wasn't like Johnny's lawyers cost £10m and hers were working pro bono (for free). I think a lot of the time Heard was her worst enemy and her lawyers were having to react to things she said which were digging holes deeper for herself - a case of her thinking she was being smart by coming up with a new lie and inventing something that her lawyers then had to try to justify. A big example was her coming up with a ludicrous suggestion that a reason why she had punched Johhny in front of witnesses was becuase she thought he was going to push her sister down some steps (the same sister who has stated that Amber has hit her) becuase she had heard a rumour that Depp had pushed Kate Moss down some steps. Now on the face of it a great lie to use something that was an actual rumour to justify her punching him but what it actually meant was that Johnny's legal team could now bring Kate Moss in as a witness (they weren't allowed to do so but the second Head mentioned her name it meant they could). As such Depp's layyers called Moss to testify and she said it was a load of b*llox. That really hurt Heard's defence - Heard's lawyers didn't even cross examine Kate Moss it was that damning.
Wonder what will become of them career wise?

Hollywood has a history of being very forgiving and willing to overlook some pretty dreadful things.

Will be interesting to see what happens.
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weasel wrote: ↑Thu Jun 02, 2022 8:48 pm Well why bother to comment on a topic if you have no interest in it? Why has Whiteswan read it, and why have you posted on it if you both have no interest - it is hardly like the thread topic is misleading?
Because as a mod, I'm compelled to read all posts. I wish that wasn't the case.
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1964white wrote: ↑Thu Jun 02, 2022 9:23 pm Because as a mod, I'm compelled to read all posts. I wish that wasn't the case.
Yes but on commenting on a topic you have no interest in it keeps it near the top of the pile....
Cjay wrote: ↑Sat May 17, 2025 4:23 pm I've pretended to support a team that's been crap for most of my life as part of a long term plan
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Cjay wrote: ↑Thu Jun 02, 2022 8:56 pm Wonder what will become of them career wise?

Hollywood has a history of being very forgiving and willing to overlook some pretty dreadful things.

Will be interesting to see what happens.
I think more than being 'forgiving' Hollywood simply knows what sells and Johnny Depp will likely be in high demand. Johnny has not only cleared his name in terms of not being guilty of domestic abuse (by virtue of Heard's claims that he abused her being judged, by the jury, as lies) but he has shown a very vulnerable side which will no doubt endear him to even more fans - as such Hollywood know that a movie with him in it would likely make a lot of money now. It may be that he doesn't go back to the Pirates Of The Caribean films due to personal pride as they dumped him extremely quickly - although it may also be that they have come to the end of their shelf life anyway - I loved the first, the second was okay but starting to get boring and then not watched the rest.

Heard's career is definitely at a huge crossroads. In some ways losing the trial might do her good as if she'd won then I feel there would be even more public backlash against her. Now she has lost a lot of the public anger will subside and if she spins it well she could cash in on the infamy. However I think her career was in decline before the trial as it was already in huge doubt whether she'd be in the next Aquaman movie due to having no chemistry witht he actor who played the lead role. Also a lot of talk that she is a pain to work with, full of her own self importance and not a particularly good actress (I have no idea if she is or is not as I don't think I have seen any of her films) Also the suggestion is that it was Johnny who called in favours to get her the role in Aquaman in the first place which if it was the case shows that she wasn't likely to be getting big roles on her own anyway.
Cjay wrote: ↑Sat May 17, 2025 4:23 pm I've pretended to support a team that's been crap for most of my life as part of a long term plan
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weasel wrote: ↑Thu Jun 02, 2022 8:48 pm Well why bother to comment on a topic if you have no interest in it? Why has Whiteswan read it, and why have you posted on it if you both have no interest - it is hardly like the thread topic is misleading?
To be fair weasel I only read 2 lines of the original post (no disrespect to Cjay by the way). I saw on the news all the gubbins surrounding this mess.
I, like 64 have every right to comment on every post on this forum. Isn't that what a forum is all about? Or so I keep being told. My post was :sleep: :sleep: :sleep: :sleep: :sleep: .... nothing wrong with that. I found it boring and not interesting (again no disrespect to Cjay)....that is how I saw it. I said exactly what I thought. Sorry that you seemed to take umbrage from my comments.
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My daughter was out with her work colleagues the other neet and capt Jack Sparrow and someone else she said is famous( Sam Fender) we're on the lash
He was celebrating winning a court case.
A bloke jonney depps age celebrating a win against another nomark seems unsightly to me.
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whiteswan wrote: ↑Thu Jun 02, 2022 7:32 pm Seriously?...... :sleep: :sleep: :sleep: :sleep: :sleep: :sleep: :sleep: :sleep:

Who on earth....gives a f***
Beautiful Swan ! You and your foul mouth, i wake up this morning v shocked and never has my jaw been on the floor since you know when.

Keep up the good work, unless the *** is lip. :love:
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Kennyb41 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 7:35 am Beautiful Swan ! You and your foul mouth, i wake up this morning v shocked and never has my jaw been on the floor since you know when.

Keep up the good work, unless the *** is lip. :love:
Hahaha what a potty mouth waste of space u r
Having a go at someone so well respected on here speaks volumes of you
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liggy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 8:56 am Hahaha what a potty mouth waste of space u r
Having a go at someone so well respected on here speaks volumes of you
Art toreet Liggy? celebration time fert Queen n country, i'll try n curb it for thi, don't hold tha breath Champ there's a good fella.

Stay cool till August.
Why does tha feel need ta stick up fert ugly duckling, she be grown up na ?
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I have no interest in this or the Vardy fiasco, rich people full of their own importance, who gives a f**k ?
Stop worryin' about what people say, when it ain't gonna stop them anyway.

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Kennyb41 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 9:23 am Art toreet Liggy? celebration time fert Queen n country, i'll try n curb it for thi, don't hold tha breath Champ there's a good fella.

Stay cool till August.
Why does tha feel need ta stick up fert ugly duckling, she be grown up na ?
Look kenath I daint do Latin....hooever this thread is is like an episode of corry
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I really miss the Bielsa v Marsch thread. Can someone bring it back
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liggy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 9:56 am Look kenath I daint do Latin....hooever this thread is is like an episode of corry
Am makin summert teet
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