Okay you're right. How silly of me to suggest comparing results from both managers against the likes of Watford and Norwich was a fairer way than comparing how we did against Liverpool and Spurs under Bielsa to against Watford and Norwich under Marsch.CHAPELALLMAN wrote: ↑Sun Jun 19, 2022 11:39 am Well I wouldn't take the reverse fixtures as the basis of comparison. It's not really the like for like that you might assume it to be. Some of those reverse fixtures were played fairly early in the season, however in Bielsa's last 12 games there had already been a big shift for the worst in terms of the confidence of the players and the general morale within the team. Defensively the team fell off the edge of a cliff in some of those 12 games. So you have to look at games played after the rot had already set in as a basis for comparison.
Therefore I think it's a more valid comparison to compare Bielsa's last 12 games with Marsch's 12 games in charge - especially as in terms of the difficulty of the range of teams that either manager faced in those games was fairly even. Of course as Aussie pointed out, Bielsa had been working with a lot of the players for 3.5 seasons already when he started his last 12 games in charge, plus 4 summers - so even then it's not really a level playing field in terms of a basis for comparison.
As i have mentioned above though the fixtures are by and large irrelevant as it was more down to the players available.