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Re: Kalvin Phillips.- Medical tomorrow (Friday 1st July)

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Cjay wrote: ↑Sun Jul 03, 2022 11:22 am In a desperate attempt to get the thread somewhat back on track.

Do we think the way thus move has gone down will impact KP's legacy?

Will the fans forgive him for effectively forcing the terms of his own transfer?
I'm fine with it unless it's a stick to beat Rads/Orta/FO with....
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Cjay wrote: ↑Sun Jul 03, 2022 12:17 pm
Once KP starting mixing with the likes of Grealish it was over.
Said ages ago that his buddy Grealish had whispered in his ear.....
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He's effectively gone,was great for 2 3 seasons notwithstanding injuries. Does he compare with greats from the past absolutely not imo. Can I just say this place has gone down hill very quickly.
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Mick Jones shoulder wrote: ↑Sun Jul 03, 2022 2:43 pm He's effectively gone,was great for 2 3 seasons notwithstanding injuries. Does he compare with greats from the past absolutely not imo. Can I just say this place has gone down hill very quickly.
In what way, MJ?
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Cjay wrote: ↑Sun Jul 03, 2022 11:22 am In a desperate attempt to get the thread somewhat back on track.

Do we think the way thus move has gone down will impact KP's legacy?

Will the fans forgive him for effectively forcing the terms of his own transfer?
No matter the system we play going forward I will regard KP as a big miss, both on the field and as a face at the club. He did very well for us overall and served us well. He leaves with with by best wishes. It matters to me that a player gives 100% and he did that. The job of the club is to now limit how much of a miss he will turn out to be. In a similar situation to where Ben White came in to limit how big a miss Pontus was, the signing of Roca or any upcoming signing needs to be more than adequate to help fill KP's boots. If we fail we could once again be in serious trouble.

I think it's a shame some people's opinion of KP has been diminished by his transfer but each to their own. He hasn't stopped being a great footballer, a England International or a very decent bloke overnight because of the transfer. He was one of 3 players we missed hugely for large parts of last season and going back over the last four years a player we missed hugely when he was injured, the with and without KP stats proved that over the last four seasons.

Good luck to the lad I say but he means very little to me now. I only care about Leeds players. He will get plenty of games at Man C over the next few years if he plays at his best and remains injury free. I hope it turns out to be a good move for him but I'm sure he understands that wherever he went he'll never be loved as much as he was when he was at Leeds. The love definitely seemed mutual and that's why I wish him all the best along with the fact he is a very good footballer and deserves to win things. It's just a shame it couldn't have been with us.

To answer your questions honestly, fans have to remember and indeed most accepted that he was on his way out of the club this summer one way or another. To talk about a legacy we have to understand and remember what a player has done for the club first and foremost, so for me his legacy remains intact and assured. He went from an average nobody to a England International and he did that while he was with us meaning we benefited a great deal from his progress and worth to the team. The transfer fee wasn't what I hoped but by the same token wasn't too harsh, all things considered. I think we were done by about another 10 million at best but it is what it is.

Will the fans forgive him for effectively forcing the terms of his own transfer?

Already forgiven, if that is in fact what he has done, so be it. Time for everyone to move on.
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1964white wrote: ↑Sun Jul 03, 2022 3:12 pm In what way, MJ?
Do I really need to answer 64 ,constantly returning to you you know who at every conceivable opportunity . Its worn thin for me chap..
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Cjay wrote: ↑Sun Jul 03, 2022 11:22 am Do we think the way thus move has gone down will impact KP's legacy?
KP's legacy is so tarnished I'm even boycotting their peanuts.
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Mick Jones shoulder wrote: ↑Sun Jul 03, 2022 5:15 pm Do I really need to answer 64 ,constantly returning to you you know who at every conceivable opportunity . Its worn thin for me chap..
Always good to hear your thoughts, MJ :tup:
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1964white wrote: ↑Sun Jul 03, 2022 5:32 pm Always good to hear your thoughts, MJ :tup:
I put my thoughts in the mod forum '64
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hector wrote: ↑Sun Jul 03, 2022 5:38 pm I put my thoughts in the mod forum '64
Yes, read & digested my dear Hector :tup:
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Cjay wrote: ↑Sun Jul 03, 2022 11:22 am In a desperate attempt to get the thread somewhat back on track.

Do we think the way thus move has gone down will impact KP's legacy?

Will the fans forgive him for effectively forcing the terms of his own transfer?
Seeing we have this obsession with evaluating players with pricetags and like to convince ourselves we either

1. Paid too much for said player
Or 2. Got ripped in the sale.

Which means we are never really happy.

I dont blame him for leaving. He has paid his due, stuck by us after we missed out in 2019 even when he was beimg coaxed to leave to furtuer his International careeer.

This story about him only wanting to sign for City and it forcing the price down will probably follow him wherever he goes now.

True or not.

For someone who tries to understand how the professonal game works I will take pride in a great player, forged in Leeds, moulded by Bielsa and England and now getting a chance on the biggest club stage of all.

We aren't a top club. Not our fault. Not the owners fault either.

I wish him well. At the same time when he plays us I will boo every time he touches the ball.
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Kalvin Philip's joins Man City on a six year deal "I'm delighted to be joining Manchester City who have proven again they are the best team in the Country"
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Yes, just seen it on Sky Sports website Swannie
A sad day for LUFC but let's hope the money is spent wisely.
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Yes he has gone but Leeds United will carry on and so will the fans .No player is bigger than the club as proven in the past.Any player who wants to leave let them go no doubt his head has been turned while away on international duty.He will now become a bit player in a very good side just like grealish.
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A sad day for me with my boy gone :(

I can understand his reasons for leaving his boyhood club, Kalvin has won all he was going to win at Elland Road with his championship medal firmly in his pocket.

Now he can go onto greater things, achieving medals playing for the best club in England & one of the best in Europe, something he could only dream of at Leeds.

Good luck Kalvin, you've been a star in my mind & deserve no abuse whatsoever!

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Chilli D wrote: ↑Mon Jul 04, 2022 9:25 am Yes, just seen it on Sky Sports website Swannie
A sad day for LUFC but let's hope the money is spent wisely.
It is a sad day, Chilli.

Leeds' fans should recognise that fact.
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Irish Ian wrote: ↑Sun Jul 03, 2022 6:32 pm Seeing we have this obsession with evaluating players with pricetags and like to convince ourselves we either

I wish him well. At the same time when he plays us I will boo every time he touches the ball.
Couldnt agree with the whole post more. But this part got me :lol: :lol: You and me both Ian, you and me both :lol:
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eastyorkshirewhite wrote: ↑Mon Jul 04, 2022 9:30 am Yes he has gone but Leeds United will carry on and so will the fans .No player is bigger than the club as proven in the past.Any player who wants to leave let them go no doubt his head has been turned while away on international duty.He will now become a bit player in a very good side just like grealish.
Kalvin will fit in like a glove at Citeh under Pep.

It will be much easier for him surrounded by ten other great players.

Good luck to Kalvin.
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Irish Ian wrote: ↑Sun Jul 03, 2022 6:32 pm At the same time when he plays us I will boo every time he touches the ball.
I won't Ian.
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