I won’t mourn the departure of Kalvin Phillips

[ilkleywhite]

Wish Kalvin well, just think he has gone to where he thinks he might win trophies, he defo had his head turned by the media, the number of times I heard that font of all knowledge "Garry Neville" say he was wasted at Leeds does my head in, other so called pundits put this into his head, think back if it wasn't for Bielsa he would have left Leeds. Bielsa made him a great player, wonder if Pep can do that for him?

He'll be back at Leeds in two years anyway, just like Bats they always come home..

[mentalcase]

KP might have a word with Harlaand about ending up at ER when he's had his fill at city.

[Chilli D]

In fairness, according to Dorigo, Wilkinson did not have a personal issue with Cantona, he just didn't like his workrate, his refusal to track back etc. And as a manager who had just won the league he was entitled to have that opinion. Plus there were plenty of players that Ferguson offloaded over the years who went on to do great things, Strachan, Stam, Ince, Pique, Van Nistelrooy, Forlan, and even Ronaldo. In some of those, the relationship between Ferguson and the players had broken down. He also, most famously, soured his relationship with the owners so much that they ended up selling the entire club to the Glazers. So I wouldn't agree with the assessment that Ferguson was much better at man management.

Didn't Ferguson also have a falling out with David Beckham? I seem to remember Beckham getting hit by something (a boot?) that AF had thrown in a temper and their relationship soured after that.

[lufc1304]

He certainly was Nick. Sold for a measly million to that lot. Worst piece of business we ever did imo. They were in no mans land up until that point. My lovely 92 year old Mum an avid Leeds fan said at the time "silly bl**dy Wilko". I have to say she was right and I've never forgiven him for that ridiculous piece of mis-management

Your dear old mum was right, swannie, crazy bit of business. I was in, of all places, a library in Balham, South London, with my mate, an Arsenal fan, when the story broke. He said to me, and I quote, "what the f**k have yous done, he'll thrive there?" Prophetic words.