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Irish Ian wrote: Sun Aug 07, 2022 2:34 pm Thankfully every club in the country has fans who share your paranoia so it all works out in the end.
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Irish Ian wrote: Sun Aug 07, 2022 2:34 pm Thankfully every club in the country has fans who share your paranoia so it all works out in the end.
One match, one controversial and in most watchers opinions (even a lot of Wolves fans it seems) incomprehensible decision that went against us and in this case probably cost us a goal. We’ll see how the rest of the season goes shall we? But I’m pretty sure that by the end of the season we will, once again, be in the debit column of the refereeing decisions ledger.
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Byebyegeegee wrote: Sun Aug 07, 2022 6:13 pm One match, one controversial and in most watchers opinions (even a lot of Wolves fans it seems) incomprehensible decision that went against us and in this case probably cost us a goal. We’ll see how the rest of the season goes shall we? But I’m pretty sure that by the end of the season we will, once again, be in the debit column of the refereeing decisions ledger.
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Jaydog wrote: Sun Aug 07, 2022 2:08 pm What does it go up to. The clapometer.
Should be the Bielsometer. The meter that judges all managers against yer man.
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If you pause the above video from 37 seconds onwards to 43 secs, i'd say our defence is pretty much at 6's and 7's, exposed to fck, and it looks like some here have got their wish of NO ONE man marking, h'mmmm
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Klich should stay, i don't think his WC spot will be in doubt, Poland aren't that strong and don't have much choice over him, cameos like this last one will be good enough to secure him a spot in their squad.
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Kennyb41 wrote: Sun Aug 07, 2022 4:11 am Yeah very much this ^

If on a scale of 1-10 (which i'm now gonna start using) with 1 being - very fcking worried and we're getting relegated coz we're headless chicken shyte....and 10 being - Jesses got us playing great and potential Champs league spot.

Prior to the new signings and him getting the players he knows, and if he was having to mould the previous into his style - I'd be at a 1.

After yesterday, i think i'm at a 3......but looking upwards.
Using your scale, I'm at a cautious 2 and a half. Hopefully we'll have enough to keep us out of trouble and moderately entertained for the foreseeable.
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SaraM wrote: Mon Aug 08, 2022 9:06 am Using your scale, I'm at a cautious 2 and a half. Hopefully we'll have enough to keep us out of trouble and moderately entertained for the foreseeable.
I'm with you. I am both less concerned and more concerned. I am less concerned about relegation because I can see us getting enough goals and results to stay up but I am more concerned than I thought I would be by how easily we were cut open, if a team as toothless as Wolves can carve us open then any team can including the likes of the newly promoted sides.

Playing how we did with a lot of players very narrow we will nick some goals like our first goal where we gave the ball away cheaply a couple of times in the build up but managed to win it back in their box so we will be able to score goals without neccesarily playing well or creating our own chances. That said we do still have enough quality in our squad to play some good football as evidenced for our 2nd goal.
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Kennyb41 wrote: Mon Aug 08, 2022 5:27 am If you pause the above video from 37 seconds onwards to 43 secs, i'd say our defence is pretty much at 6's and 7's, exposed to fck, and it looks like some here have got their wish of NO ONE man marking, h'mmmm
For a long part of the match we looked awful defensively, in my opinion on a par with how we did in the worst performances of last season. A better team than Wolves would have scored at least a couple more during that time. Others have got carried away because of the result and the last 20 minutes or so of the match where we generally controlled things.

Hopefully though we will improve that side of things and maybe Marsch made tactical switches that helped that out. I think we will see in future matches whether Marsch actually saw what was going wrong and was able to sort it or whether it was just a combination of Klich coming on with a point to prove and Wolves taking their foot off the gas as it had been so easy.

Cautiously optimistic though as I feel the team can get better and confidence from winning can also work wonders on how well players play.
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weasel wrote: Mon Aug 08, 2022 9:16 am I'm with you. I am both less concerned and more concerned. I am less concerned about relegation because I can see us getting enough goals and results to stay up but I am more concerned than I thought I would be by how easily we were cut open, if a team as toothless as Wolves can carve us open then any team can including the likes of the newly promoted sides.

Playing how we did with a lot of players very narrow we will nick some goals like our first goal where we gave the ball away cheaply a couple of times in the build up but managed to win it back in their box so we will be able to score goals without neccesarily playing well or creating our own chances. That said we do still have enough quality in our squad to play some good football as evidenced for our 2nd goal.
I still don't think Marsch's narrow system is adequate for the premier league, and I'm not convinced he has either the tactical nous, or the coaching ability, to take us forward. Hopefully the new signings will gel, things will tighten up, and he'll adapt his approach where necessary.
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weasel wrote: Mon Aug 08, 2022 9:16 am I'm with you. I am both less concerned and more concerned. I am less concerned about relegation because I can see us getting enough goals and results to stay up but I am more concerned than I thought I would be by how easily we were cut open, if a team as toothless as Wolves can carve us open then any team can including the likes of the newly promoted sides.

Playing how we did with a lot of players very narrow we will nick some goals like our first goal where we gave the ball away cheaply a couple of times in the build up but managed to win it back in their box so we will be able to score goals without neccesarily playing well or creating our own chances. That said we do still have enough quality in our squad to play some good football as evidenced for our 2nd goal.
Lets start with I'm a a Bielsa diehard. Absolutely the wrong decision to sack him, I believe he would have kept us up and stayed another season, I think the plan was always to spend/sell in this window than last. TBH we probably held on to Philips too long which affected his value in the end. We'd have finished mid table under him this season.

But, if you use the amount of defensive injuries last season as a reason (not an excuse) then it's not a valid argument this season to criticize a new defence. I can't be asked but I doubt Koch/Llorente (on his wrong side) played more than three game together, when they did how many times did Struijk play left back? Kristensen of course is a newbie.

In front of them is a new system and it's now a pair of defensive mids both new to the club...

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SaraM wrote: Mon Aug 08, 2022 9:25 am I still don't think Marsch's narrow system is adequate for the premier league, and I'm not convinced he has either the tactical nous, or the coaching ability, to take us forward. Hopefully the new signings will gel, things will tighten up, and he'll adapt his approach where necessary.
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faaip wrote: Mon Aug 08, 2022 9:36 am Lets start with I'm a a Bielsa diehard. Absolutely the wrong decision to sack him, I believe he would have kept us up and stayed another season
Even though Marcelo won only five games in the first six months of the season.
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Three Wolves players went down in the first ten minutes, their captain started the rotation antics after two minutes. All instigated by their horrible manager Bruno Lage.
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So much negativity on here!

We win our first PL game of the season since our promotion.

A much better performance vs Wolves at ER & also bettered the result than last season, when thanks to Joffy we nicked a draw.

Surely we'll improve our game at Southampton than the dire performance we put in last time we were at St Mary's.
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>Three Wolves players went down in the first ten minutes, their captain started the rotation antics after two minutes. All instigated by their horrible manager Bruno Lage.<
I wouldn't be too bothered if Leeds indulged in a bit of sh*thousery now and again.
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faaip wrote: Mon Aug 08, 2022 9:36 am Lets start with I'm a a Bielsa diehard. Absolutely the wrong decision to sack him, I believe he would have kept us up and stayed another season, I think the plan was always to spend/sell in this window than last. TBH we probably held on to Philips too long which affected his value in the end. We'd have finished mid table under him this season.

But, if you use the amount of defensive injuries last season as a reason (not an excuse) then it's not a valid argument this season to criticize a new defence. I can't be asked but I doubt Koch/Llorente (on his wrong side) played more than three game together, when they did how many times did Struijk play left back? Kristensen of course is a newbie.

In front of them is a new system and it's now a pair of defensive mids both new to the club...

There's a saying in cricket, don't judge the score until both teams have used the wicket. Well don't judge a defence till it's had time to bond and for me that's a minimum of ten....
It wasn't the defence on its own as such but how easily as a team we got carved upon.
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1964white wrote: Mon Aug 08, 2022 10:23 am So much negativity on here!

We win our first PL game of the season since our promotion.

A much better performance vs Wolves at ER & also bettered the result than last season, when thanks to Joffy we nicked a draw.

Surely we'll improve our game at Southampton than the dire performance we put in last time we were at St Mary's.
Constructive criticism. A bit like how we have the positive and negative thread.
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