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Good Morning. It's Tuesday 6th September, and here are the latest headlines from Elland Road...


Llorente's days could be numbered

Elland Road journalist Beren Cross believes Diego Llorente's days could be numbered after last Saturday's horror show in Brentford. He has accused the Spanish International of overcomplicating the most simplist of tasks, and failing to read the game. With Liam Cooper finally fit, and waiting patiently on the bench, should we expect to see them swap places?

Llorente has reverted to overcomplicating simple tasks in recent matches. The defender cannot seem to shake the habit of Cruyff turns on the edge of his own box or trying a drag-back when his team’s 4-2 down and there’s an attacker three yards away."

The 29-year-old misread a simple through-ball in the lead-up to the third goal which forced Illan Meslier off his line, failed to react to Bryan Mbeumo’s run for the fourth strike and then gave up the fifth with that aforementioned drag-back. Llorente’s at the point where he needs to be taken out of the firing line now, for his own good.




Leeds could end up paying £10m plus for Gnonto

FC Zurich president Ancillo Canepa has disclosed that Leeds could end up paying in excess of £10m for Italian International Wilfried Gnonto. The 18 year old joined Leeds late on deadline day, after moves for Hwang, Gakpo and Dieng simultaneously fell through. Media reports have suggested that Leeds were always going to sign Gnonto, but were initially going to wait until January. With three failed transfers in as many hours, the Elland Road hierarchy were left with enough egg on their faces to make the World's biggest omelette; so, desperate to appease Leeds fans, Gnonto was signed. Canepa has hit back at media sources claiming Leeds have picked up a bargain, labelling them clueless...
These people are clueless. (They) don’t know the contract details. The transfer took place under the conditions we had imagined. We negotiated well and didn’t let ourselves be disturbed; even if the transfer was only registered five minutes before the end of the window.




Cresswell excelling at Millwall

Charlie Cresswell is starting to have a massive influence at Millwall. The 20 year old has started five out of the eight league games for the Lions, as well as one substitute appearance; during which, he has become one of their most influential players. With three goals, and two man of the match awards, Whites fans could be excused for wondering whether we loaned the right defender out. His aerial ability has been staggering too. 'Whoscored' have awarded him a rating of 4.7, the equivalent of Klich, Harrison, Adams, Arronson, Bamford, Gelhardt, Roca and Kristensen combined.

Unfortunately, the same can't be said of Jamie Shackleton. Although he's started 7 out of 8 of the league fixtures (and substitute in the other), he has failed to have the same kind of influence as his Leeds teammate, languishing in 14th place on Millwall's 'Whoscored' register, 13 places lower Cresswell.





Pundit slams ref for double standards

Former player, now pundit Chris Sutton, has accused referee Robert Jones, and VAR coordinator David Coote of double standards are ignoring Leeds appeal for a penalty, after Crysencio Summerville was bundled to the floor during Saturday's encounter at Brentford. Having already awarded a dubious spot kick to their opponents in the first half, Leeds were due the benefit of the doubt, but staggeringly, the incident wasn't even reviewed. Sutton said...

In Brentford against Leeds, Ivan Toney won a penalty when referee Robert Jones was told by VAR David Coote that there was a foul by Luis Sinisterra. He was right — there had been and this was a worthy spot-kick. But then when Leeds’ Crysencio Summerville was dragged down by Brentford’s Aaron Hickey in the second half, nothing happened. No VAR intervention. No visit to the monitor for Jones.

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Re: The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Tuesday 6th September) - Llorente's days could be numbered

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Llorente is Spanish.
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Re: The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Tuesday 6th September) - Llorente's days could be numbered

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SaraM wrote: Tue Sep 06, 2022 8:40 am Llorente is Spanish.
I completely missed that...
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Re: The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Tuesday 6th September) - Llorente's days could be numbered

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faaip wrote: Tue Sep 06, 2022 8:48 am I completely missed that...
I'm a stickler!

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Re: The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Tuesday 6th September) - Llorente's days could be numbered

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I have said a few times, Cresswell is going to be epic. I don't think we should have loaned him, he should have been playing for us.

I really hope he comes back to Leeds at the end of the season (if not before).

Llorente, he needs a break to reset.

The £10m transfer will come from the lad playing and performing (so in theory the fee will be justified based on the value we see in the team).
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The Brentford penalty was anything but a “worthy spot-kick” a 50/50 subjective call at best. The referee called it - no need for VAR to overturn the ref’s subjective call with their own opposite but equally subjective call. That is not what VAR is there to do. Surely he must have realised that if he had to spend 3 minutes pouring over and reassessing the incident that the referee had not actually made an “obvious” error in the first place.

The Summerville penalty shout certainly had more merit, it being a more obvious foul. Most observers would have considered that the ref got his call wrong in this case and therefore this was the incident where VAR needed to intervene.

Any way you look at it it’s clear that VAR just didn’t understand what he was there to do, or perhaps, as I keep suggesting, he knew exactly what he was doing.
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The piece about Cresswell made me think back to comments made about him on here a couple of weeks ago.
He had been left out of the team after three consecutive starts and some people were insinuating he wasn't good enough for the Championship let alone the PL without even knowing why he was left out.
Now we hear he has top ratings at Millwall.
I said at the time, a season of regular football at Millwall will be good for him but next season he has to be contesting a first team place or we will lose him.
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And most think he’s not ready for the PL. Cresswell I mean. It is only the Championship mind you but still.
I’d have him back asap even if just as back up
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Morning EB et all

Llorente needs to be dropped and either replaced by Coops or Struijk both better defenders IMO

Cresswell hopefully will prove us all right and become one of the best CBS we’ve ever had, personally hate the fact he’s doing well for Scumwall but love the fact he’s their best player by a country mile and we’ll be recalling him at some point hopefully just as they desperately need him :lol:

Agree with BBGG on the VAR comments as well, plus I’m starting to think the officials were looking for any excuse to give it to Marsch so he needs to shut his gob, stop with the over acting and get in with his bloody job
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Re: The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Tuesday 6th September) - Llorente's days could be numbered

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Ellandback1 wrote: Tue Sep 06, 2022 8:00 am

Good Morning. It's Tuesday 6th September, and here are the latest headlines from Elland Road...


Llorente's days could be numbered

Elland Road journalist Beren Cross believes Diego Llorente's days could be numbered after last Saturday's horror show in Brentford. He has accused the Spanish International of overcomplicating the most simplist of tasks, and failing to read the game. With Liam Cooper finally fit, and waiting patiently on the bench, should we expect to see them swap places?








Leeds could end up paying £10m plus for Gnonto

FC Zurich president Ancillo Canepa has disclosed that Leeds could end up paying in excess of £10m for Italian International Wilfried Gnonto. The 18 year old joined Leeds late on deadline day, after moves for Hwang, Gakpo and Dieng simultaneously fell through. Media reports have suggested that Leeds were always going to sign Gnonto, but were initially going to wait until January. With three failed transfers in as many hours, the Elland Road hierarchy were left with enough egg on their faces to make the World's biggest omelette; so, desperate to appease Leeds fans, Gnonto was signed. Canepa has hit back at media sources claiming Leeds have picked up a bargain, labelling them clueless...







Cresswell excelling at Millwall

Charlie Cresswell is starting to have a massive influence at Millwall. The 20 year old has started five out of the eight league games for the Lions, as well as one substitute appearance; during which, he has become one of their most influential players. With three goals, and two man of the match awards, Whites fans could be excused for wondering whether we loaned the right defender out. His aerial ability has been staggering too. 'Whoscored' have awarded him a rating of 4.7, the equivalent of Klich, Harrison, Adams, Arronson, Bamford, Gelhardt, Roca and Kristensen combined.

Unfortunately, the same can't be said of Jamie Shackleton. Although he's started 7 out of 8 of the league fixtures (and substitute in the other), he has failed to have the same kind of influence as his Leeds teammate, languishing in 14th place on Millwall's 'Whoscored' register, 13 places lower Cresswell.





Pundit slams ref for double standards

Former player, now pundit Chris Sutton, has accused referee Robert Jones, and VAR coordinator David Coote of double standards are ignoring Leeds appeal for a penalty, after Crysencio Summerville was bundled to the floor during Saturday's encounter at Brentford. Having already awarded a dubious spot kick to their opponents in the first half, Leeds were due the benefit of the doubt, but staggeringly, the incident wasn't even reviewed. Sutton said...





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SaraM wrote: Tue Sep 06, 2022 8:40 am Llorente is Spanish.
Sara, you spotted the deliberate mistake, and win a prize!!! :lol:
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Sell Llorente in the summer and replace him with Cresswell. It's what we should've done this summer, but a year too late.

Kinda pleased Shackleton isn't doing too well at Millwank, as hopefully they won't take up the buy option.
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Chilli D wrote: Tue Sep 06, 2022 9:18 am The piece about Cresswell made me think back to comments made about him on here a couple of weeks ago.
He had been left out of the team after three consecutive starts and some people were insinuating he wasn't good enough for the Championship let alone the PL without even knowing why he was left out.
Now we hear he has top ratings at Millwall.
I said at the time, a season of regular football at Millwall will be good for him but next season he has to be contesting a first team place or we will lose him.
He was left out as Rowett is clueless! Cresswell is levels above Millwank and will go onto bigger and better things, hopefully with us.
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Ellandback1 wrote: Tue Sep 06, 2022 9:25 am Sara, you spotted the deliberate mistake, and win a prize!!! :lol:
Is it this?

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No. The prize is a night out with Llorente. He most likely won’t turn up and if he does he’ll spend most of the night talking to himself or doing Cruyff turns
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You'll be fine though if you stay on his left .....
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faaip wrote: Tue Sep 06, 2022 10:05 am You'll be fine though if you stay on his left .....
:) Correct
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I don't know how Llorente can be blamed for the 4th. He successfully played the Brentford player offside and wasn't to know that Koch had got the attacking flick on. For me the blame for that goal is solely on Koch.
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Llorente is the new Dan James.
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"Football is about the people and the players,” he said. “Then there are those who will mingle in the middle: the coaches, executives and journalists. That last group represents the worst part about football" Marcelo Bielsa
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weasel wrote: Tue Sep 06, 2022 10:43 am I don't know how Llorente can be blamed for the 4th. He successfully played the Brentford player offside and wasn't to know that Koch had got the attacking flick on. For me the blame for that goal is solely on Koch.
Can't even blame Koch the ball came off Torney onto his nut.
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