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Re: Patrick Bamford
Personally, I think it is high time to start putting the responsibility on the players. A manager plays a system that hopefully provides his team with the greatest oppurtunity to get a result. Bamford has had at least 10 clear chances I can think of this season to finish easy oppurtunities that were provided him. We would be sitting up the table if he alone had some quality. Even under Marsch we were somewhere around 10-12th in the league at creating chances. Our attacking players....and Bamford in particular, needs to focus on themselves and step up whoever the manager is or sit down and shut up. There have been so many obvious mental and physical errors in the front and back this year that ultimately fall on the players themselves. Time for them to accept responsibility
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Stop making sense karsmakers, bamford and harrison are the lifeline of this club.Karsmakers wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 8:27 pm Personally, I think it is high time to start putting the responsibility on the players. A manager plays a system that hopefully provides his team with the greatest oppurtunity to get a result. Bamford has had at least 10 clear chances I can think of this season to finish easy oppurtunities that were provided him. We would be sitting up the table if he alone had some quality. Even under Marsch we were somewhere around 10-12th in the league at creating chances. Our attacking players....and Bamford in particular, needs to focus on themselves and step up whoever the manager is or sit down and shut up. There have been so many obvious mental and physical errors in the front and back this year that ultimately fall on the players themselves. Time for them to accept responsibility
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Re: Patrick Bamford
Oh I know, in American football aan ACL or MCL tear means out for rest of the season, most of the off season recovering, second season getting back physically and mentally and usually the third season after is where you see said player return to pre injury levelsIrish Ian wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 8:03 pm What bothered me was his determination to avoid using his right peg.
Which foot had the plantar problem?
I wonder if he still needs to recover from the injury mentally.
It can happen that after prolonged trauma sportsmen and musicians can just not get back in the flow after a certain injury especially when the nerves have been affected.
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Re: Patrick Bamford
Hear hear. There are so many pampered players in football these days. And it's always the managers that get the brunt of the criticism - even though the likes of Bamford and Harrison have been useless this season. Still, they get their £200k to £300k each month, so what do they care ?Karsmakers wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 8:27 pm Personally, I think it is high time to start putting the responsibility on the players. A manager plays a system that hopefully provides his team with the greatest oppurtunity to get a result. Bamford has had at least 10 clear chances I can think of this season to finish easy oppurtunities that were provided him. We would be sitting up the table if he alone had some quality. Even under Marsch we were somewhere around 10-12th in the league at creating chances. Our attacking players....and Bamford in particular, needs to focus on themselves and step up whoever the manager is or sit down and shut up. There have been so many obvious mental and physical errors in the front and back this year that ultimately fall on the players themselves. Time for them to accept responsibility
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I can’t help but think if the club had invested early on in a striker that could convert just a few more of the chances that Bamford has had, we’d in a much healthier position.
I feel a little sorry for him. Beset with injuries and the constant pressure of scoring a bag full of goals when you are not a prolific goal scorer must weigh heavily on his mind.
On the flip side, as a highly paid professional footballer, you would think his finishing would be continually improving. It could be a mental thing.
I feel a little sorry for him. Beset with injuries and the constant pressure of scoring a bag full of goals when you are not a prolific goal scorer must weigh heavily on his mind.
On the flip side, as a highly paid professional footballer, you would think his finishing would be continually improving. It could be a mental thing.
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I'm sure that the 300K a month he gets paid is adequate compensation. There are people to feel sorry for in life - but pampered overpaid footballers aren't on my list...VinnysTattoo wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 3:01 am I can’t help but think if the club had invested early on in a striker that could convert just a few more of the chances that Bamford has had, we’d in a much healthier position.
I feel a little sorry for him. Beset with injuries and the constant pressure of scoring a bag full of goals when you are not a prolific goal scorer must weigh heavily on his mind.
On the flip side, as a highly paid professional footballer, you would think his finishing would be continually improving. It could be a mental thing.
Re: Patrick Bamford
Don't think the injury is the reason he is so frustratingly 1 footedIrish Ian wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 8:03 pm What bothered me was his determination to avoid using his right peg.
Which foot had the plantar problem?
I wonder if he still needs to recover from the injury mentally.
It can happen that after prolonged trauma sportsmen and musicians can just not get back in the flow after a certain injury especially when the nerves have been affected.
In 90 Premier league appearances he has scored 2 goals with his right foot
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Re: Patrick Bamford
Very one footed, as was Liam Brady.
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Re: Patrick Bamford
Alan Shearer scored just 20 goals with his left foot, out of the 260 he scored. Player will pre-dominantly score with their stronger foot.Cjay wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 9:50 am Don't think the injury is the reason he is so frustratingly 1 footed
In 90 Premier league appearances he has scored 2 goals with his right foot
https://www.premierleague.com/players/4 ... d/overview
Maradona, a left footer, scored 6 goals, out of his 353 goals, with his right foot.
Lionel Messi scores 5 times as many with his left peg compared to his right peg.
Even some of the best players are completely one footed.
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Had Bamford performed better we may have won more than 4 games and been out of danger.
I'm tired of the excuses, he's a striker and he has under performed, right now he looks to be over thinking it.
Had he been at another club he would have been dropped, but we can't drop him.
He will now score 2 tomorrow.
Covering all bases.
I'm tired of the excuses, he's a striker and he has under performed, right now he looks to be over thinking it.
Had he been at another club he would have been dropped, but we can't drop him.
He will now score 2 tomorrow.
Covering all bases.
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Not just about using that foot to stick ball in the net though is it. First and second touch, how you turn, what foot you set off with when you accelerate.weasel wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 11:19 am Alan Shearer scored just 20 goals with his left foot, out of the 260 he scored. Player will pre-dominantly score with their stronger foot.
Maradona, a left footer, scored 6 goals, out of his 353 goals, with his right foot.
Lionel Messi scores 5 times as many with his left peg compared to his right peg.
Even some of the best players are completely one footed.
If there was severe pain and we know there was in Bamfords case it can affect the way he is using his feet.
It becomes a mental block.
I hope that with him having his six plus games now back and in fact being able to even play a 90 minute game for the first time will help him work all this out in his head
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Re: Patrick Bamford
Comparing bamford to a genious like Brady is just ludicrous, also with shearer, the PL top scorer, when will folk give it a rest, sticking up for him proves nothing, only he himself can prove the doubters wrong, but he himself keeps proving the doubters right.
What does he do in training to get over this issue of always using the left peg, probably nothing, keeps on with the same and nobody bothers to talk it through with him .
Any other club would simply drop him and give one of the kids a chance, we spunk £30 plus million on a kid without giving our kids a chance, work that one out.
What does he do in training to get over this issue of always using the left peg, probably nothing, keeps on with the same and nobody bothers to talk it through with him .
Any other club would simply drop him and give one of the kids a chance, we spunk £30 plus million on a kid without giving our kids a chance, work that one out.
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xG, just for those of you who still have their head stuck firmly in the sand
In what will come as a shock to absolutely nobody, Erling Haaland claims the crown for the player to be overperforming the most in front of goal, with the Manchester City striker scoring 26 times from an xG total of just 18.06.
His overperformance of 7.94 goals accounts almost entirely for Man City's total of 8.98 goals scored over their xG, which helps to make them the division's most prolific side.
James Maddison is second to Haaland, with the Leicester midfielder recording a 5.09 xG differential, followed by Rashford, Newcastle's Miguel Almiron and Tottenham's Harry Kane.
At the other end of the scale is Patrick Bamford, who has the worst xG differential having scored just once from an xG total of 5.13.
In what will come as a shock to absolutely nobody, Erling Haaland claims the crown for the player to be overperforming the most in front of goal, with the Manchester City striker scoring 26 times from an xG total of just 18.06.
His overperformance of 7.94 goals accounts almost entirely for Man City's total of 8.98 goals scored over their xG, which helps to make them the division's most prolific side.
James Maddison is second to Haaland, with the Leicester midfielder recording a 5.09 xG differential, followed by Rashford, Newcastle's Miguel Almiron and Tottenham's Harry Kane.
At the other end of the scale is Patrick Bamford, who has the worst xG differential having scored just once from an xG total of 5.13.
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Re: Patrick Bamford
MateKarsmakers wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 8:27 pm Personally, I think it is high time to start putting the responsibility on the players. A manager plays a system that hopefully provides his team with the greatest oppurtunity to get a result. Bamford has had at least 10 clear chances I can think of this season to finish easy oppurtunities that were provided him. We would be sitting up the table if he alone had some quality. Even under Marsch we were somewhere around 10-12th in the league at creating chances. Our attacking players....and Bamford in particular, needs to focus on themselves and step up whoever the manager is or sit down and shut up. There have been so many obvious mental and physical errors in the front and back this year that ultimately fall on the players themselves. Time for them to accept responsibility
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Re: Patrick Bamford
Says it all matementalcase wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 12:58 pm xG, just for those of you who still have their head stuck firmly in the sand
In what will come as a shock to absolutely nobody, Erling Haaland claims the crown for the player to be overperforming the most in front of goal, with the Manchester City striker scoring 26 times from an xG total of just 18.06.
His overperformance of 7.94 goals accounts almost entirely for Man City's total of 8.98 goals scored over their xG, which helps to make them the division's most prolific side.
James Maddison is second to Haaland, with the Leicester midfielder recording a 5.09 xG differential, followed by Rashford, Newcastle's Miguel Almiron and Tottenham's Harry Kane.
At the other end of the scale is Patrick Bamford, who has the worst xG differential having scored just once from an xG total of 5.13.
4th different coach in less than 12 months, but a lot are happy to blame the coach for everything
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Re: Patrick Bamford
Apart from their performances this and last season, their body language says it all ChapelCHAPELALLMAN wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 10:16 pm Hear hear. There are so many pampered players in football these days. And it's always the managers that get the brunt of the criticism - even though the likes of Bamford and Harrison have been useless this season. Still, they get their £200k to £300k each month, so what do they care ?
Re: Patrick Bamford
Bamford has been off form for ages, the pleas to the board to buy a decent striker (and a LB) fell on deaf ears more than once at this club.
We are where we are for a reason, not suggesting PB is the main factor but he's had more than the benefit of the doubt at this club, it's only the lack of a decent striker that gets him selected.
I kind of agree with a comment on here that PB has a mental block, almost too scared to commit incase he's sidelined again.
I really like the lad, I want him to smash in a ton of goals.
He'll do better in the Championship, but we're not going there are we?
We are where we are for a reason, not suggesting PB is the main factor but he's had more than the benefit of the doubt at this club, it's only the lack of a decent striker that gets him selected.
I kind of agree with a comment on here that PB has a mental block, almost too scared to commit incase he's sidelined again.
I really like the lad, I want him to smash in a ton of goals.
He'll do better in the Championship, but we're not going there are we?
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To be fair to the club, they have bought a striker (or what they perceive to be a striker) in Rutter.
Not quite worked out yet, fingers crossed that tide turns quickly.
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I don't know how you get to that conclusion fella ?Barlow Boy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 3:11 pm To be fair to the club, they have bought a striker (or what they perceive to be a striker) in Rutter.
Not quite worked out yet, fingers crossed that tide turns quickly.
Genuinely, the kid came in 6 or so games ago, hasn't had more than 90 minutes, no partnership, no link up, certainly NO continuation.
I think "not quite worked out yet" is a bit strong.
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The “not quite worked out yet” bit wasn’t aimed at him specifically, but overall, for the many of the reasons you have mentioned.mentalcase wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 3:49 pm I don't know how you get to that conclusion fella ?
Genuinely, the kid came in 6 or so games ago, hasn't had more than 90 minutes, no partnership, no link up, certainly NO continuation.
I think "not quite worked out yet" is a bit strong.
The jury is out for many on him, but it’s way too early for me.
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