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Meslier
Shackleton
Ayling
Llorente
Firpo
Forshaw
Dallas
Roberts
Raphinha
Harrison
James
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Meslier 5 Not much to do but positioning for their first looked suspect as were the telegraphed floated passes to the full backs
putting them under pressure.

Shackleton 6 Did ok but the game seemed to pass him by at times

Ayling 7 Handled Havertz well hardly gave him a kick all game

Llorente 6 Coped well with the Chelsea pressure. Always seems to take a few risks though.

Firpo 7 Did well going forward giving options down the left. Still looks a bit suspect defensively though giving them too much
space and always seems to get booked.

Forshaw 8 Kept things ticking over in midfield and put in a couple of crunching tackles.

Dallas 6 Poor control led to their first goal, but overall handled Werner well.

Roberts 7 Thought he had a good game overall with a lovely cross for Gelhardt to finish off.

Raphinha 6 Still our biggest threat and took his pen well. reckless challenge gave away the penalty.

Harrison 4 Ineffective again. Some nice first touches but no final product

James 5 Did well to win the pen, but similar to Harrison with little in the way of a final product. Not a striker.

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Klich 3 His worst game for Leeds. Looks too slow now to play at this level. Silly challenge to give away the pen after the lads had
worked so hard to get back in the game. Doesn't offer anything in the way of a goal threat.

Gelhardt 7 Strikers instinct to finish off a great Roberts cross. Worked hard for the 10 minutes he was on. Feel sorry for him as I
think he is a talent wasted and should be getting more game time while Bamford is out.
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Meslier 7: Made a couple of decent saves, used the ball ok when plenty of space with the other defenders, kicking it to the wings is pointless. For once the young kid was out of position but he had 2 defenders free in our box to think about and that left him twixed (is that a word other than the chocolate bar?) between the two.

Shackleton 7: I thought Shack did well first half, he looked sharp, hungry and switched on. Can feel a taddy unlucky to be subbed.

Ayling 8: I though Bill put in a good performance. Defended well and ran with the ball when space was presented. Pulled out of position due to Dallas breaking down with the ball.

Llorente 8: Similiar to Bill. I thought he was solid enough, caught between two defenders with the Chelski transition after Dallas poor control.

Firpo 9: Maybe a little sentiment in my score here. I have been harsh on the kid and i thought he was solid throughout. Got forward well when needed and made some good tackles. His best game for me. I was surprised Chelski didn't target him more.

Forshaw 9: He ran his little legs off all night. To put in another shift like that is credit to him i didn't think he had it in him. Even used his experience at the end to buy some time. Another top performance. On that performance maybe Bielsa is right, is he CL?

Dallas 8: Other than the error leading up to the goal Dallas was excellent again. I am not sure where he was playing but most of the time he was playing well against a supposed good side.

Roberts 7: Lovely assist for the goal, buzzed about without really stamping his authority on the game. Lacks intelligence at this stage. One shot that i remember on target. Like Firpo the jury still out at this stage.

Raphinha 9: That's more like it. He was a constant menace, you can tell he loves the big stage and he delivered again with that sublime penalty which left Mendy stranded. It really is a intelligent spot kick leaving the execution to the last minute after all the trickery in the run up.

Harrison 7: Worked his socks off as usual. Lost possession a few times leading to quick attacks. Still not at his best but i haven't given up hope just yet.

James 6: Disappointed in James again. Like Roberts imo just lacks a little intelligence when getting into good area's. A few decent runs and won some free kicks but too quiet again for me personally.

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Klich 5: After all the hard work he goas and does that.

Gelhardt 8: How long was he on before he does that?

Cresswell N/A This kid is the new Pontus in the making.
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Leeds1000 wrote: Sat Dec 11, 2021 6:59 pm Meslier 7: Made a couple of decent saves, used the ball ok when plenty of space with the other defenders, kicking it to the wings is pointless. For once the young kid was out of position but he had 2 defenders free in our box to think about and that left him twixed (is that a word other than the chocolate bar?) between the two.

Shackleton 7: I thought Shack did well first half, he looked sharp, hungry and switched on. Can feel a taddy unlucky to be subbed.

Ayling 8: I though Bill put in a good performance. Defended well and ran with the ball when space was presented. Pulled out of position due to Dallas breaking down with the ball.

Llorente 8: Similiar to Bill. I thought he was solid enough, caught between two defenders with the Chelski transition after Dallas poor control.

Firpo 9: Maybe a little sentiment in my score here. I have been harsh on the kid and i thought he was solid throughout. Got forward well when needed and made some good tackles. His best game for me. I was surprised Chelski didn't target him more.

Forshaw 9: He ran his little legs off all night. To put in another shift like that is credit to him i didn't think he had it in him. Even used his experience at the end to buy some time. Another top performance. On that performance maybe Bielsa is right, is he CL?

Dallas 8: Other than the error leading up to the goal Dallas was excellent again. I am not sure where he was playing but most of the time he was playing well against a supposed good side.

Roberts 7: Lovely assist for the goal, buzzed about without really stamping his authority on the game. Lacks intelligence at this stage. One shot that i remember on target. Like Firpo the jury still out at this stage.

Raphinha 9: That's more like it. He was a constant menace, you can tell he loves the big stage and he delivered again with that sublime penalty which left Mendy stranded. It really is a intelligent spot kick leaving the execution to the last minute after all the trickery in the run up.

Harrison 7: Worked his socks off as usual. Lost possession a few times leading to quick attacks. Still not at his best but i haven't given up hope just yet.

James 6: Disappointed in James again. Like Roberts imo just lacks a little intelligence when getting into good area's. A few decent runs and won some free kicks but too quiet again for me personally.

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Klich 5: After all the hard work he goas and does that.

Gelhardt 8: How long was he on before he does that?

Cresswell N/A This kid is the new Pontus in the making.
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If our members don't support these topics I shall scrap them

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Meslier 6: poor distribution throughout and for their 1st goal especially and positioning all wrong too. Some decent saves and area domination as we’ve come to expect.
Shackleton 5: lively 1st half but his substation was coming.
Ayling 8: his best game yet at central defence but still missed at right wing back.
Llorente 7: solid as ever
Firpo 7: looking better by the game, gets booked too often though
Forshaw 7.5: dynamic performance, hounding and tackling the opposition. Docked 1/2 pt for some weak passing though at times.
Dallas 6.5: good apart from the one obvious mistake.
Roberts 6.5: buzzed around as usual to not much effect but then came up with a superb assist, well done him.
Raphinha 7: I get that tingle of expectation every time he gets the ball - he’s that kind of player and doesn’t disappoint
Harrison 5: flatters to deceive at the moment with very little end product
James 6 : made the penalty for our 1st goal

Gelhardt 7: now that’s what a proper striker does!
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OK I'll repost mine

Meslier - 7.5 - Positional error for their first but generally a top performance
Shackleton - 7.5 - Had the winger in his pocket and involved coming forward as well, surprised he was subbed
Llorente - 8 - Very good game at that heart of defence, even better when you consider he doesn't play left often....
Ayling - 8 - The more he plays at CB the better he gets, did we miss him down the right, I don't think we did
Firpo - 8.5 - Dodgy start but then built on his previous game. He's beginning to look class
Forshaw - 7 - Not at his best, but maybe the positional change had something to do with that , gave up possession in midfield at least three times, passing was off.
Dallas - 7.5 - Another two position game and solid as ever
Raphinha - 7 - Oh if he'd squared that ball for an unmarked Roberts, little too greedy for once and some wayward crossfield balls.
James - 7.5 - Good game, won a penalty and was a general nuisance to Chelsea and teams have to account for his pace and direct running
Roberts - 8.5 - Good again, the assist was high quality and very combative in midfield. Passing not quiet up to his usual quality and like Raph at least one crossfield to no one

Klich - 6.5 - The assist aside not a great game though no blame for the pen for me
Gelhardt - 7 - Looked very good again on limited exposure, great run and finish for the goal
Cresswell - 6.5 - Not enough time
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6 Meslier : A bad day at the office for Illan, first goal down to a poor kick & poor positioning, nevertheless our young keeper has saved us many times in the past

7 Shackleton : Jamie had a decent game

8 Ayling : Apart from Villa away last season, Luke's best game as a CB.

8 Llorente : Solid

8 Firpo : His best game in a Leeds shirt imo!

9 Forshaw : Ran his little legs off, tackles, interceptions, neat passing & blocked a certain goal. MOTM for me

8 Dallas : Another fine game in midfield, can't blame Stuart for the lack of control for their first goal, thought he was fouled anyway.

8 Roberts : Worked his socks off, great assist for Joe's goal

8 Raphinha : Constant menace & works so hard for the team as proven when he was the one making the challenge in the RB position that led to Chelsea's first penalty

6 Harrison : Works hard, still wants to beat the same defender two or three times

6 James : Won the penalty, lots of running around with no end product

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5 Klich : Yes, Klich provided a sublime pass for our equaliser, then he had a mad five minutes where he constantly gave the ball away, cumulating in the unnecessary kick conceding a penalty

8 Gelhardt : You little beauty Joe, one of the best moments of the season. A natural, clinical striker who doesn't need many chances to put the ball in the net, sadly his wonderful goal meant nothing in the end.

N/A Cresswell : Wasn't given the opportunity against the Brentford attack but relied upon to mark one of the best strikers in Europe.
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I'm beginning to hate Saturday 3pm kickoffs, as I am relying on dodgy streams which keep packing in, making me miss the first two goals. However, must keep the main man happy.

Meslier 6.5: Not a lot to do, but what he had to deal with he did well. Don't think his pass to Dallas was a bad one leading to the first goal, and he had little chance with the goals.

Shackleton 6: I thought Shacks did OK, nothing really stood out, but no errors.

Ayling 7.5: A cultured performance from him. kept the Chelsea strikers quiet, and marauded forward when he could.

Llorente 7.5: Similiar to Ayling. I thought they made a good pairing, and were never in any real trouble.

Firpo 7.5: Contrary to popular opinion, I think there is a player in there. Worked well down the left, and, with Klich, was integral in the build-up to Joe's goal. Was steady defensively, as well.

Forshaw 8: The heartbeat of the side. His running stats must have been off the chart. Constantly plugging gaps, and closing down, Never let his head drop.

Dallas 7: Other than the error leading up to the first goal Dallas was very good. Worked well with Raphinha down the right.

Roberts 7.5: Excellent assist for the goal, and has continued his recent form. Started as the striker, and then slipped seamlessly into the No. 10 role when Gelhardt came on. Pleased for the lad.

Raphinha 7: Our most potent outlet, and always a threat. Loses marks for his daft tackle for their first pen. Also I am not keen on his penalty taking. Puts it too close to the keeper for my liking.

Harrison 6: Worked hard, but still not up to last seasons best. Appears to be having a crisis of confidence.

James 6.5: Troubled the Chelsea defence with his darting runs. I still feel there is more to come from him.

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Klich 5: Worked hard, and was responsible for creating the space down the left for Joe's goal. Loses marks for the stupid tackle on Rudiger. Just stand him up and shepherd him away from goal, Mateusz. Doesn't deserve the twitter hate, after all he has done for us.

Gelhardt 7: Clinical finish with his first touch. The lad is going to be very good.

Cresswell 6: Loved the towering header he won over Lukako first up, and how he manhandled Rudiger at the end.
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Gandalf wrote: Mon Dec 13, 2021 11:04 am I'm beginning to hate Saturday 3pm kickoffs, as I am relying on dodgy streams which keep packing in, making me miss the first two goals. However, must keep the main man happy.
Thank you Gandi.

I had problems with IPTV over the weekend, however switched to HesGoal.com which is a vastly improved service imo!

Excellent picture and not cutting out as often as it use to.
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1964white wrote: Mon Dec 13, 2021 11:20 am Thank you Gandi.

I had problems with IPTV over the weekend, however switched to HesGoal.com which is a vastly improved service imo!

Excellent picture and not cutting out as often as it use to.
I started off with Hesgoal, and it packed in five minutes after kickoff. Switched to Releasesky and it was fine until just before we scored. When it came back the first time we were 1-0 up. Same thing happened just before their equaliser. Came back it was 1-1. Worked OK most of the second half. Still extremely frustrating. I know I shouldn't complain, as in the old days, I used to watch games I wasn't at via CEEFAX. I even tried Ellandback's links at one point, and as usual they led to porn sites. :lol:
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Gandalf wrote: Mon Dec 13, 2021 12:03 pm I started off with Hesgoal, and it packed in five minutes after kickoff. Switched to Releasesky and it was fine until just before we scored. When it came back the first time we were 1-0 up. Same thing happened just before their equaliser. Came back it was 1-1. Worked OK most of the second half. Still extremely frustrating. I know I shouldn't complain, as in the old days, I used to watch games I wasn't at via CEEFAX. I even tried Ellandback's links at one point, and as usual they led to porn sites. :lol:
I'm amazed you caught any of the game then ....
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Gandalf wrote: Mon Dec 13, 2021 12:03 pm I started off with Hesgoal, and it packed in five minutes after kickoff. Switched to Releasesky and it was fine until just before we scored. When it came back the first time we were 1-0 up. Same thing happened just before their equaliser. Came back it was 1-1. Worked OK most of the second half. Still extremely frustrating. I know I shouldn't complain, as in the old days, I used to watch games I wasn't at via CEEFAX. I even tried Ellandback's links at one point, and as usual they led to porn sites. :lol:
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I ahall try.

This is on faded memory now so erm.

Meslier-5. At fault for one goal and didnt get close to any of the pens, not a good day.

Shacks- 6 . Ok without doing much from what i remember

Firpo-7. . Grew into the game and was decent.

Ayling-8 . .pleasantly surprised, not a fan of Ayling at cb and largely he is poor but did well.

Llorente-8 . .Same as Ayling without the not a fan bit.

Forshaw-8.5 . Proving me wrong tbf to him, did very well, worked hard and broke up play, seems to be playing deeper and that suited him, he is no box to box midfielder.

Dallas-6.5. Ok largely without standing out but he shouldn't be caught on the ball like he was.

Roberts- 7 . Didnt think he did a huge amount until the goal, wasnt bad just a bit anonymous. However great assist which bumped his score up.

Raphinha-7.5 .Our best threat as usual and took his pen well, love his workrate. Lost a point for what was in hindsight a clumsy and unnecessary tackle.

Harrison-5 . Ran a lot but story of his season, no substance to his game, no threat.

James-6 . Won the pen and worked hard but like Harrison needs to do much much more.

Subs.

Klich-5 . Crucial in the goal but clumsy for the pen, no excuse for such an experienced player and still looks exhausted, doesnt deserve the abuse though.

Gelhardt-7 . Took the goal wonderfully.

Cresswell-7 . Came on and won a header vs Lukaku and then manhandled Rudiger.
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'64, I do enjoy this thread, do I hope you keep it running. Personally, I haven't seen the game yet but find this thread invaluable for assessing each players performance, particularly if I missed the game.
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Is it true for 3.99pm you can watch all Leeds games but a day later on LUTV? My mate who lives in Spain told me that. Cracking value if true, better than the stop start streams.
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1964white wrote: Mon Dec 13, 2021 8:31 am If our members don't support these topics I shall scrap them

If folk can't be bothered about threads relating to LUFC matches, I won't waste my time.
Sorry to be late getting these in. I was too gutted on Saturday to think dispassionately, and I was traveling all day Sunday.

Meslier- 6.5 - Apart from the gaffe that cost us the first goal, I thought he did pretty well, especially his decision-making on "play it out from the back" vs long throws/kicks

Shacks- 6.5 - Creditable, if unspectacular

Firpo - 8 - Continuing to improve. Very solid game, tremendous work rate.

Ayling - 7.5 - Another fine job playing out of position

Llorente - 8 - Both central defenders played very well despite the three goals. Not at fault for any of them and Chelsea had alomost nothing in front of goal all game. Penalties bailed them out in a big way

Forshaw - 8.5 - If we can keep Kalvin and Forshaw together for any length of time we will be very difficult to score against. Rock solid.

Dallas - 6.5 - A little below par.

Roberts - 7.5 - Starting to play up to his talent for longer stretches. Beginning to understand what Bielsa sees in him.

Raphinha - 7.5 - Bad challenge for the first penalty. I think he got the ball first, but why go to ground in the box at all? Otherwise, his usual superb self.

Harrison - 6 - As Shakespeare said, a great deal of sound and fury signifying nothing.

James - 6.5 - Good game, but really needs to be on the wing for his pace to be put to maximum use.

Subs.

Klich - 5.5 - Another one - like Raphinha - where I think a very soft penalty was awarded, but at the same time, why jostle a man with his back to goal? Played adequately up to that point.

Gelhardt - 7.5 - This kid is special

Cresswell - Not enough time on the pitch to rate fairly, but I liked what I saw.
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Lumiukko wrote: Mon Dec 13, 2021 3:08 pm '64, I do enjoy this thread, do I hope you keep it running. Personally, I haven't seen the game yet but find this thread invaluable for assessing each players performance, particularly if I missed the game.
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Top 3

1. Forshaw
2. Ayling
3. Firpo
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