Relegation Watch 22/23

[Jaydog]

What do we think about how this weekend has panned out?

Forest and Palace getting dragged in as expected?

Not great
Could be worse
That’s the way it is when you rely on others

[Cjay]

Just watching Wolves.

Newcastle finding it very easy to get in behind.

Something I hope we are looking at.

[VinnysTattoo]

April is the key month for us.

After Arsenal away we have three homes games in a row. Forest, Palace and Liverpool. We'll need a minimum of 6 points if we are going to have any chance of staying up.

[mentalcase]

April is the key month for us.

After Arsenal away we have three homes games in a row. Forest, Palace and Liverpool. We'll need a minimum of 6 points if we are going to have any chance of staying up.

All 3 of those are winnable, depends on who the manager plays though, bringing Sinisterra on for 30 seconds on saturday isn't the way to win games, nor is having Gnonto on the bench.

[Cjay]

Popped up on twitter this again.

The confidence/arrogance the club had in the summer based on Marsch and Orta and his work lead to Radz saying this?

“This year, in my opinion, we’ve done a great job in the market and we have a very competitive team,” Radrizzani says. “The target I set is between 10th to 14th position. If we’re lucky, we are close to 10th or more. If we aren’t lucky, we are 15th. But I think we are in that range. I don’t want to have any more heart-attack risk.” But is there any chance in his mind of a relegation battle? “I don’t have any doubt that we’ll avoid a situation similar to last season,” he says. “It’s impossible.”

[1964white]

Popped up on twitter this again.

The confidence/arrogance the club had in the summer based on Marsch and Orta and his work lead to Radz saying this?

“This year, in my opinion, we’ve done a great job in the market and we have a very competitive team,” Radrizzani says. “The target I set is between 10th to 14th position. If we’re lucky, we are close to 10th or more. If we aren’t lucky, we are 15th. But I think we are in that range. I don’t want to have any more heart-attack risk.” But is there any chance in his mind of a relegation battle? “I don’t have any doubt that we’ll avoid a situation similar to last season,” he says. “It’s impossible.”

Blind vision.

[weasel]

Popped up on twitter this again.

The confidence/arrogance the club had in the summer based on Marsch and Orta and his work lead to Radz saying this?

“This year, in my opinion, we’ve done a great job in the market and we have a very competitive team,” Radrizzani says. “The target I set is between 10th to 14th position. If we’re lucky, we are close to 10th or more. If we aren’t lucky, we are 15th. But I think we are in that range. I don’t want to have any more heart-attack risk.” But is there any chance in his mind of a relegation battle? “I don’t have any doubt that we’ll avoid a situation similar to last season,” he says. “It’s impossible.”

Apart from the horrendous decision to make Marsch manager then the recruitment of players would be the biggest failure last summer with Aaronsen and RK being very poor value for money, neither should be in the team at present. Sinisterra looks a good player but his injury record should have raised flags. Roca has been okay but nothing spectacular, no upgrade on Klich and marginally better than Forshaw. Adams has been the only real success and he is a midfielder with poor passing ability.

The January recruitment started well with Wober but McKennie and Rutter have huge question marks hanging over them.

[1964white]

All 3 of those are winnable, depends on who the manager plays though, bringing Sinisterra on for 30 seconds on saturday isn't the way to win games, nor is having Gnonto on the bench.

Two players capable of scoring or creating goals.

[1964white]

Apart from the horrendous decision to make Marsch manager then the recruitment of players would be the biggest failure last summer with Aaronsen and RK being very poor value for money, neither should be in the team at present. Sinisterra looks a good player but his injury record should have raised flags. Roca has been okay but nothing spectacular, no upgrade on Klich and marginally better than Forshaw. Adams has been the only real success and he is a midfielder with poor passing ability.

The January recruitment started well with Wober but McKennie and Rutter have huge question marks hanging over them.

Totally agree

[Cjay]

Remaining fixtures

On paper we don't have the hardest run in

[1964white]

Forest's last victory was against us seven games ago.

[1964white]

Everton have won one game in their last four matches.

Toffee's next three games : Chelsea (a), Manure (a), Spurs (h)

[1964white]

No team in the bottom nine has gained more points than Leeds in their last three games.

[Cjay]

Apart from the horrendous decision to make Marsch manager then the recruitment of players would be the biggest failure last summer with Aaronsen and RK being very poor value for money, neither should be in the team at present. Sinisterra looks a good player but his injury record should have raised flags. Roca has been okay but nothing spectacular, no upgrade on Klich and marginally better than Forshaw. Adams has been the only real success and he is a midfielder with poor passing ability.

The January recruitment started well with Wober but McKennie and Rutter have huge question marks hanging over them.

Fully agree

Recruitment is a massive problem and has been for years.

The man in charge being seemingly untouchable is a major reason we are where we are

The transfers over the last 12months have largely been poor value, poorly scouted and just poor.

[The Subhuman]

Apart from the horrendous decision to make Marsch manager then the recruitment of players would be the biggest failure last summer with Aaronsen and RK being very poor value for money, neither should be in the team at present. Sinisterra looks a good player but his injury record should have raised flags. Roca has been okay but nothing spectacular, no upgrade on Klich and marginally better than Forshaw. Adams has been the only real success and he is a midfielder with poor passing ability.

The January recruitment started well with Wober but McKennie and Rutter have huge question marks hanging over them.

Kristensen was 10M ? That's f**k all and very decent depth.. Marsch used him wrong too, you may get away with a centre back playing right back in Austria, it's unlikely to work in the Prem.

McKennie to me has looked our best centre mid, Adams looks rushed on the ball, very good off ball reader of the game but offers very little once in possession. We haven't found the best way to use Roca yet, really don't think that's as a KP replacement personally. It's Kalvin we haven't replaced and it's the key to everything. It could very easily be Gyabi, I think it probably is but then managers like experience over ability too much.

Klich has been under rated all his career, by both fans and managers. Only Bielsa was good enough to see it and make him a lynch pin

[weasel]

Kristensen was 10M ? That's f**k all and very decent depth.. Marsch used him wrong too, you may get away with a centre back playing right back in Austria, it's unlikely to work in the Prem.

McKennie to me has looked our best centre mid, Adams looks rushed on the ball, very good off ball reader of the game but offers very little once in possession. We haven't found the best way to use Roca yet, really don't think that's as a KP replacement personally. It's Kalvin we haven't replaced and it's the key to everything. It could very easily be Gyabi, I think it probably is but then managers like experience over ability too much.

Klich has been under rated all his career, by both fans and managers. Only Bielsa was good enough to see it and make him a lynch pin

The reason I say RK was a waste of money is that it was £10m for a right back that I would suggest is 3rd choice at the club (if Drameh was still with us). It may be he is a better centreback but I wouldn't be rushing to start him there either. £10m for a journeyman squadfiller. Hugely disappointed with his lack of assists and goals given his record previously but I am guessing that was down to the quality of opposition he was playing against rather than him being brilliant.

[JoeDenver]

The reason I say RK was a waste of money is that it was £10m for a right back that I would suggest is 3rd choice at the club (if Drameh was still with us). It may be he is a better centreback but I wouldn't be rushing to start him there either. £10m for a journeyman squadfiller. Hugely disappointed with his lack of assists and goals given his record previously but I am guessing that was down to the quality of opposition he was playing against rather than him being brilliant.

Denmark deployed him as a RWB and RM at the WC, but he looked rather “meh”. Perhaps why he came back with such low confidence after the tournament. I do suspect his best long-term position (if he’s going to stay in the Premiership) is probably as a CB.

[Cjay]

We could be bottom tomorrow.

Need favours from old adversaries Brighton and Brentford.

We need Brentford to wake up and beat Southampton (rather than letting them tickle there tummies like they did Everton).

And we could do with Brighton beating Crystal Palace to keep them bang in trouble.

Forest then play Newcastle on Friday, if results go our way then Wolves away takes on even greater significance.

A win could see us as high as 14th.

Downside is we are the 19th worst away side in the league with only 1 away win all season (at Anfield strangely).

[Finnatic]

Palace have sacked Viera

[Chilli D]

Palace have sacked Viera

You beat me to Finn.
Not a complete surprise, theyare in free fall.
Not many games left for the new manager to turn things around