Farke Tactics

[Musicman1965]

After last seasons disappointment of missing out on promotion there needs to be a discussion on
the tactics that DF used during the previous season. On reflection I think we used the same system no matter who we played and this was a big mistake in my opinion. There were games when the opposition just parked the bus, muscled out our quality players and hit us on the break. With the new season starting today, do you all think that a varied formation depending on the opposition is the way to go?
Its a long season and I will certainly be watching the way DF uses the squad to its full advantage. Your constructive comments please?

[GreennWhite]

For me we dont need to change that much, just be better at what we do when in possession. With a stronger squad this season ( though Summerville is a big loss ) i hope we can do that. One of the main talking points in the match day threads last season was " if only we could put our chances away the game would be over, or been over long ago ". That has got to be better,# this season, do that and these teams that come to park the bus have to change things. If we dont score early against them then they get more confident, we get more nervy and that tends to get the fans more nervy and the atmosphere then doesnt help. If we can put our chances away on a better ratio to what it was last season, you can have situations were the game is well in our control and we can afford to rotate players and even give younger players more game time. As it was last season the bench players who were brought on ( yes in a lot of games too late ) were brought on more in hope than anything else.

[pjm2019]

we need to change tactics for certain matches or during a match. DF is unable to do this Plan A only. Today's subs came on after 70 mins 10 mins earlier than last season BUT gain too slow. we need a real number 9 or play to Piroe strengths

[Hewin]

We had 30 odd shots, it's not the tactics it's the fact we haven't got the players that can consistently put the ball in the back of the net when it counts.

[Hewin]

Ok, apparently 22 shots. If the tactics were to blame we wouldn't be getting this number of shots off.

[The Subhuman]

We had 30 odd shots, it's not the tactics it's the fact we haven't got the players that can consistently put the ball in the back of the net when it counts.

We scored three so the attackers do seem the logical group to blame...

[Cjay]

Just wish he'd allow more midfield freedom.

Even when losing today he still had his 2 holding midfielders.

And making subs that make your team worse isn't great either.

[weasel]

Ok, apparently 22 shots. If the tactics were to blame we wouldn't be getting this number of shots off.

For me we dont need to change that much, just be better at what we do when in possession. With a stronger squad this season ( though Summerville is a big loss ) i hope we can do that. One of the main talking points in the match day threads last season was " if only we could put our chances away the game would be over, or been over long ago ".

Those are the key points for me. Tactics wise you can't really fault a way of playing that results in us getting more than 4 times as many shots as the opposition. If we do that every game then it wouldn't be unreasonable to expect to win every match.

I think there was only one game I can recall where we cruised to a win last season - Swansea away (oh and Norwich in the play-offs). The rest of the matches it seemed like we were having to give 100% until the final whistle (or if we won by two it was a late goal to give us the cushion). It does mean that resting players in matches wasn't something we were able to do. Being able to take off a first teamer early who has got a little knock is extremely beneficial.

[GreennWhite]

Those are the key points for me. Tactics wise you can't really fault a way of playing that results in us getting more than 4 times as many shots as the opposition. If we do that every game then it wouldn't be unreasonable to expect to win every match.

I think there was only one game I can recall where we cruised to a win last season - Swansea away (oh and Norwich in the play-offs). The rest of the matches it seemed like we were having to give 100% until the final whistle (or if we won by two it was a late goal to give us the cushion). It does mean that resting players in matches wasn't something we were able to do. Being able to take off a first teamer early who has got a little knock is extremely beneficial.

Agree, but why then do some fans keep blaming it on one person, its either the managers fault or a certain player is to blame. If we go up it wont be down to just Farke, or to just one player it will be a team/squad effort. And the same applies if we dont go up, it wont be down to just one person.

[Kennyb41]

Those are the key points for me. Tactics wise you can't really fault a way of playing that results in us getting more than 4 times as many shots as the opposition. If we do that every game then it wouldn't be unreasonable to expect to win every match.

I think there was only one game I can recall where we cruised to a win last season - Swansea away (oh and Norwich in the play-offs). The rest of the matches it seemed like we were having to give 100% until the final whistle (or if we won by two it was a late goal to give us the cushion). It does mean that resting players in matches wasn't something we were able to do. Being able to take off a first teamer early who has got a little knock is extremely beneficial.

There was absolutely fck all wrong with the tactics, subs or fck all else for that matter, that some decent players couldn't have put right for their manager.

Better to ignore the DramaKing and his not so well-hidden agenda, Jeez there's some utter drivel spoke on this forum, when you take a back seat it's feckin laughable it is, why the fck they bother watching the game is beyond me

ttfn.

[Jaydog]

I struggled to get a decent stream as my usual kickofgoal one doesn't work anymore but even the highlights show you a game we should of cruised. Think Gnontos was deflected on to the bar and the Gruev FK is class so can you blame that on Farke.
Then Aaronsen comes on and equalises and can win it with a chance that i’m not convinced is as easy as many many chances that Bamford routinely misses.
Is that Farkes fault? Probably not

[Cjay]

I struggled to get a decent stream as my usual kickofgoal one doesn't work anymore but even the highlights show you a game we should of cruised. Think Gnontos was deflected on to the bar and the Gruev FK is class so can you blame that on Farke.
Then Aaronsen comes on and equalises and can win it with a chance that i’m not convinced is as easy as many many chances that Bamford routinely misses.
Is that Farkes fault? Probably not

I don't think he did anything horrendously wrong today really.

Elements frustrating, I don't like the 2 holding mids as a tactic anyway.

And I think he again struggled when asked to use his bench.

But wasn't a disaster from him.

It's the push back against any criticism I object to and double standards.

[Jaydog]

I don't think he did anything horrendously wrong today really.

Elements frustrating, I don't like the 2 holding mids as a tactic anyway.

And I think he again struggled when asked to use his bench.

But wasn't a disaster from him.

It's the push back against any criticism I object to and double standards.

Not from me. Ive always thought Farke is an average to good manager. His record is average to good.
Not aimed at you but why do we expect him to be something that he isn't. I’m absolutely certain he tries his best.
I doubt he makes a sub and then thinks “that should make us worse” so i just put it down to a lack of ability.
He’s certainly a talented manager but he has a ceiling same as all of us.

[Broad Ford]

Only watched 10 minute highlights after returning home from work, but according to a Leeds channel, Leeds sat back after going 1 up allowing Portsmouth to play and gain some attacking momentum leading to an equaliser. Rutter needed runners that just weren't there. Is this the same as last season with everything down the left through Cry, only this time through Geo? Also 12 corners that amounted to nothing. Again the subs were strange and after a bright start the game became boring until those final few minutes with Aronson becoming both hero then villain. This Leeds fan channel points the finger at DF's system of everything through Geo but with no runners in support.

[andrewjohnsmith]

I don't think he did anything horrendously wrong today really.

Elements frustrating, I don't like the 2 holding mids as a tactic anyway.

And I think he again struggled when asked to use his bench.

But wasn't a disaster from him.

It's the push back against any criticism I object to and double standards.

Rothwell was supposed to be a change in midfield. I did se him run with the ball a couple of times. But nothing really noteworthy

[andrewjohnsmith]

Only watched 10 minute highlights after returning home from work, but according to a Leeds channel, Leeds sat back after going 1 up allowing Portsmouth to play and gain some attacking momentum leading to an equaliser. Rutter needed runners that just weren't there. Is this the same as last season with everything down the left through Cry, only this time through Geo? Also 12 corners that amounted to nothing. Again the subs were strange and after a bright start the game became boring until those final few minutes with Aronson becoming both hero then villain. This Leeds fan channel points the finger at DF's system of everything through Geo but with no runners in support.

I think it was split between Gnonto, Rutter, and James. Georgi probably had the ball more than anyone else. Gnonto was the biggest threat.

And we did have a better target man in Joseph. But he missed a really good chance

[1964white]

There was absolutely fck all wrong with the tactics, subs or fck all else for that matter, that some decent players couldn't have put right for their manager.

There was no need for three subs all at the same time, taking both wingers off was foolish.

Even Farke mentioned his error in his post-match interview.

[andrewjohnsmith]

There was no need for three subs all at the same time, taking both wingers off was foolish.

Even Farke mentioned his error in his post-match interview.

Especially as we don't have a specialist winger on the bench. Rutter, Aaronson can play wing. But they're not the pace threat of James, Gnonto, or Summerville.

[1964white]

Especially as we don't have a specialist winger on the bench. Rutter, Aaronson can play wing. But they're not the pace threat of James, Gnonto, or Summerville.

Taking both wingers off took away the pace out of our game, it was like Marsch football all over again.

[Prisoner37]

DF has the second best win percentage in the Championship, behind Marcelo. So he must be doing something right in this league.

Got to admit though that I'm not a fan of wholesale substitutions as it kills the cohesion of the team for some time and there is not long left to get going again.