Archie Gray-EFL Championship Young Player Of The Year

[DDB220]

If Archie sat back and rarely ventured over the half way line and just defended half of the criticism of his ability at RB would evaporate. The kid is such a courageous player, having that self belief at his age is incredible. For me he is quite simply the most outstanding prospect we have seen since the kids broke through under O’Leary.

Easy to forget he is only 17, when you consider his dependability and physical traits.

[YorkshireSquare]

If Archie sat back and rarely ventured over the half way line and just defended half of the criticism of his ability at RB would evaporate. The kid is such a courageous player, having that self belief at his age is incredible. For me he is quite simply the most outstanding prospect we have seen since the kids broke through under O’Leary.

Easy to forget he is only 17, when you consider his dependability and physical traits.

A lot of the time he was in a more advanced position than Gnonto

[Barlow Boy]

If Archie sat back and rarely ventured over the half way line and just defended half of the criticism of his ability at RB would evaporate. The kid is such a courageous player, having that self belief at his age is incredible. For me he is quite simply the most outstanding prospect we have seen since the kids broke through under O’Leary.

Easy to forget he is only 17, when you consider his dependability and physical traits.

18 in a couple of weeks, he will be able to get changed in the big boys room

[The Subhuman]

Correct he did, can't remeber which game though.
Hence why I suggested dragging firpo off and roberts on with Archie switching over. it worked.

Was it when we bought Spence off the bench? Can't remember the game either

[1964white]

I was screaming for Firpo to be subbed, a total liability & out of his depth last night.

Hopefully Roberts & our young Paul Madeley as our full-backs in the future, I reckon you could stick Archie upfront & he would look decent, a proper technical footballer with bags of skills.

[SG90]

I was screaming for Firpo to be subbed, a total liability & out of his depth last night.

Hopefully Roberts & our young Paul Madeley as our full-backs in the future, I reckon you could stick Archie upfront & he would look decent, a proper technical footballer with bags of skills.

Not sure about Roberts. If we're promoted, he's not PL quality.

Hopefully Byram goes back to being first choice for the rest of the season after injury. We look more stronger with him in the side.

[1964white]

18 in a couple of weeks, he will be able to get changed in the big boys room

What a revelation Archie is this season.

[mentalcase]

Was it when we bought Spence off the bench? Can't remember the game either

Yep, that was the game

[1964white]

A mix of good & bad for Archie against the brutes from Leicester.

Fitting that our boy should score the decisive 2nd goal in the game of the season, a debut goal in front of his proud uncle Eddie.

15 excellent actions including four superb tackles & a goal to boot

8 poor moments including losing his marker Mavididi, done for pace by one of the best & quickest wingers in the championship.

Archie was one of four defenders ball watching for Faes goal.

All the same, another decent outing for Archie who is not 18 yet.

[1964white]

A very proud uncle

[DDB220]

A mix of good & bad for Archie against the brutes from Leicester.

Fitting that our boy should score the decisive 2nd goal in the game of the season, a debut goal in front of his proud uncle Eddie.

15 excellent actions including four superb tackles & a goal to boot

8 poor moments including losing his marker Mavididi, done for pace by one of the best & quickest wingers in the championship.

Archie was one of four defenders ball watching for Faes goal.

All the same, another decent outing for Archie who is not 18 yet.

With zonal marking everyone is ball watching. Their goal was created by an excellent near post flick on by Daka who IMO was trying to get it on target. There was an element of fortune as to the ball landing nicely for Faes but there was little Archie could do with the position he had taken up. Winning the first ball contact was the key to preventing that goal. It was not dissimilar to have VVD scored for Liverpool against Chelsea in the LCC - he stole in ahead of Mudryk and got the type of connection that Daka was looking for.

[1964white]

With zonal marking everyone is ball watching. Their goal was created by an excellent near post flick on by Daka who IMO was trying to get it on target. There was an element of fortune as to the ball landing nicely for Faes but there was little Archie could do with the position he had taken up. Winning the first ball contact was the key to preventing that goal. It was not dissimilar to have VVD scored for Liverpool against Chelsea in the LCC - he stole in ahead of Mudryk and got the type of connection that Daka was looking for.

Gnonto was marking Faes, he lost his man as the big Leicester defender made his run. I reckon Faes would have beaten Willy in the air even if he had tracked him.

[GreennWhite]

There was something amiss with our defensive duties when Willy ended up marking Faes, lets hope that's sorted out asap for the next game.

[The Subhuman]

Gnonto was marking Faes, he lost his man as the big Leicester defender made his run. I reckon Faes would have beaten Willy in the air even if he had tracked him.

Willy did nothing wrong

[mentalcase]

Gnonto was marking Faes, he lost his man as the big Leicester defender made his run. I reckon Faes would have beaten Willy in the air even if he had tracked him.

Agree, Gnonto seemed to lose him, what was he doing marking him in the first place though, there must be over a foot in height difference, dreadful marking.

[1964white]

There was something amiss with our defensive duties when Willy ended up marking Faes, lets hope that's sorted out asap for the next game.

Two of the three goals we've conceded (including Plymouth cup game) were at the back post.

[1964white]

Agree, Gnonto seemed to lose him, what was he doing marking him in the first place though, there must be over a foot in height difference, dreadful marking.

Doesn't make sense, probably all down to zonal marking, key is to win the ball at the near post, we didn't in this case, that doesn't mean we should allow a big man to drift in at the back post unmarked.

[1964white]

Willy did nothing wrong

Of course he did, Willy was stood marking Faes, the big defender makes a run & Gnonto made no effort to track him. It's no good having defenders in the box if they make zero movement towards the man or the ball.

Farke would have analysed & seen the two problems that led to their goal, after the game.

[mentalcase]

Of course he did, Willy was stood marking Faes, the big defender makes a run & Gnonto made no effort to track him. It's no good having defenders in the box if they make zero movement towards the man or the ball.

Farke would have analysed & seen the two problems that led to their goal, after the game.

Agree, no effort whatsoever.
Farke should have analysed it beforethe game , not after.
Something went dreadfully wrong there on Friday night, zonal marking or not.
Willy is around 5'4
Faes is around 6'3
Schoolboy stuff.

[The Subhuman]

Of course he did, Willy was stood marking Faes, the big defender makes a run & Gnonto made no effort to track him. It's no good having defenders in the box if they make zero movement towards the man or the ball.

Farke would have analysed & seen the two problems that led to their goal, after the game.

No he didn't ..He did what I would have done, got ready for the break... You've said yourself you don't man mark a tall centre half with a short attacking player ... That player was not Gnonto's assignment...

It's no good having attacking players in defensive positions if they're not ready to break