Leeds Utd 1-0 Southampton - Post Match Debate

[Leeds1000]

I still think the Adams Mck midfield combo needs time. They will need a little more discipline with the better teams, they can both get dragged around the field leaving space. They struggled last week against Everton and i think had JG been around at that time he would have tightened us up in there.

[Kennyb41]

Simple solution swap Aaronsen and McKennie's meals.

It's not far off doing that, good way of explaining it really, but i really do think it could beef up Brendans game and improve him at international level for himself as well seeing as he's not currently getting selected, he's got some skill about him holding onto the ball and riding tackles, wouldn't do him any harm at all to put some upper body strength on.

McKennie i noticed today Weasel either one of three things 1. He one of those fcking annoying players that i'll guarantee you've played with, where you just know there's a better gifted player in there if only he'd work harder. 2. He's either a clever fcker (i don't think this is it myself) that's pacing himself for the match and timing when he decides to put more effort and graft in, or 3. The fckers just not firing on all cylinders, being lazy and ultimately not doing himself justice, and this is what i think it is, coz if Bert had a hold of him he'd be fcking AWESOME, and in a good few different roles as well, imagine him fit as fck in a KP role in a Bert team, i've not seen enough yet, but he does look like he reads the game well, so much so it makes him a lazy git, if fitter his anticipation could be like s**t of a shovel.

[Kennyb41]

Give me a traditional CB any day over a fancy-dan ' ball playing ' defender like Llorente who can't defend for toffee and was swatted out of the way by physical forwards...Funny how since Wober came in we look solid at the back for the first time since promotion...

I'm dreading him getting injured atm if that helps.

[Jaydog]

I'm dreading him getting injured atm if that helps.

He just was. Shoulder wasn’t it. But unlike most oooh I’ll have a week off types he was straight back. Give him a gold star for that in football world

[The Subhuman]

Not sure McKennie is supposed to be the creative one... that was Aaronson today, has been Jack for a few weeks. Probably should be Rutter or Sinisterra.

[weasel]

It's not far off doing that, good way of explaining it really, but i really do think it could beef up Brendans game and improve him at international level for himself as well seeing as he's not currently getting selected, he's got some skill about him holding onto the ball and riding tackles, wouldn't do him any harm at all to put some upper body strength on.

McKennie i noticed today Weasel either one of three things 1. He one of those fcking annoying players that i'll guarantee you've played with, where you just know there's a better gifted player in there if only he'd work harder. 2. He's either a clever fcker (i don't think this is it myself) that's pacing himself for the match and timing when he decides to put more effort and graft in, or 3. The fckers just not firing on all cylinders, being lazy and ultimately not doing himself justice, and this is what i think it is, coz if Bert had a hold of him he'd be fcking AWESOME, and in a good few different roles as well, imagine him fit as fck in a KP role in a Bert team, i've not seen enough yet, but he does look like he reads the game well, so much so it makes him a lazy git, if fitter his anticipation could be like s**t of a shovel.

I think he may simply be one of those players that never gets to be as good as he can be, Has all the ability, has had it all his life and has never really needed to give 100%. Like you say you see this sort of player at every level, even at Sunday League level I saw countless players that had more ability than premier league players but had never pushed themselves, whether it was laziness or the fear of trying and failing - better to never try and then say I could have been etc.

Part of the reason so many of our players in recent years have had a special place in our hearts is becuase they gave their all. They wringed every single oz of their ability out of their bodies and then found more.

[Kennyb41]

He just was. Shoulder wasn’t it. But unlike most oooh I’ll have a week off types he was straight back. Give him a gold star for that in football world

Yeah he strikes me as that type, thank fck, brush yourself down and get on with it type, wants to play footy and earn his crust.

Doesn't look like a whinging wining Doris.

Our new Norman ? Definitely gallops like him.

[Kennyb41]

I think he may simply be one of those players that never gets to be as good as he can be, Has all the ability, has had it all his life and has never really needed to give 100%. Like you say you see this sort of player at every level, even at Sunday League level I saw countless players that had more ability than premier league players but had never pushed themselves, whether it was laziness or the fear of trying and failing - better to never try and then say I could have been etc.

Part of the reason so many of our players in recent years have had a special place in our hearts is becuase they gave their all. They wringed every single oz of their ability out of their bodies and then found more.

Yeah that bit that's how i was feeling today.

He's definitely off the pace though, but i definitely want him in, needs a constant kick up the arse type.

[weasel]

Give me a traditional CB any day over a fancy-dan ' ball playing ' defender like Llorente who can't defend for toffee and was swatted out of the way by physical forwards...Funny how since Wober came in we look solid at the back for the first time since promotion...

Such a shame your memory plays tricks on you these days and you have no recollection of those last couple of months of our first season back in the premier league where a defence containing Llorente conceded just 8 goals in 10 matches that included fixtures against Chelsea, Man City, Man U, Liverpool and Spurs.

[andrewjohnsmith]

I'd go McKennie off for Rutter

Move Rutter behind Bamford and drop Aaronson next to Adams

That way it gives us more attack.

And if it works and we score we still have the option of Roca for Aaronson or Bamford.

McKennie got a lot better in the 2nd half. But against weak opposition like this, we could use a little more midfield creativity. McKennie/Adams is good for playing top teams. But against Southampton, I'd rather see Adams/Aaronson or Adams/Greenwood.

[andrewjohnsmith]

Thought that was a good shout for a pen.

If that's reference to the Bamford turn and fall over the leg, I absolutely thought that was a pen.

[andrewjohnsmith]

Firpo has been a beast today

It's good to hear a couple of people saying that. Even before he scored the goal. He's looked more assured for the past 3 matches. Let's hope it continues.

[andrewjohnsmith]

Best Rutter has looked by a mile.

Was impressed with Rutter's little cameo today. It might be against Shithampton. But he's showing some potential.

[BGwhite]

Try and snatch jwp from saints when they go down ...if we stay up of course. We desperately need a dead ball specialist.

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[andrewjohnsmith]

Disagree

Also disagree on Summerville. Did right to try and take it on himself. There was a defender between him an Harrison that would have made the layoff more tricky than the shot.

[andrewjohnsmith]

MOTM Firpo. I've seen a lot of hate on this board for the man. I have never seen him play before this season, but these last few games he's solved the Left back question. At least for now. When Strujik comes back that adds more depth to the Center back and Left back positions. Roca is back, hopefully Rodders will be back soon. Idk what's up with Sini, but hopefully Leeds can finish strong and stay up. This was a step in the right direction for confidence.

In fairness, he's never established himself or inspired confidence. But he's never had a good run of games either. He has looked good since coming back. Hope this is a time for him to get going.

[CHAPELALLMAN]

I'm dreading him getting injured atm if that helps.

Me too.

I know that footballers earn megabucks, but I don't think he'll get injured at an ATM though. Notes aren't that heavy - even if he draws a week's wage in one hit...

[andrewjohnsmith]

Wasn't it nice to control a game.

Have possession

Press intelligently rather than like schoolkids

Will be much tougher games.

But was impressed today.

Heard today was our best passing stats of the season. Go figure. Kind of nice not to see us aimlessly hoofing the ball into the middle of nowhere.

[andrewjohnsmith]

It was like you say a controlled performance. Southampton only had a few minutes where they looked the better side (at the start of the second). Maybe they made tweaks at half time and then Garcia worked out and made subtle changes (rather than subs) or maybe it was simply them having a few minutes like every team has in a match.

Would have been nice to have got a second goal when we were well on top after our goal but at least we comfortably saw out the win.

Great disclipline from our players too to not give away free kicks in shooting distance and also limit the amount of corners Southampton got.

In fairness Southampton are garbage. We should have beaten them at their place. When we were 2 up and Jesse didn't manage to make any tactical changes.

[andrewjohnsmith]

Gnonto wasnt playing poorly but he wasnt getting any joy in that second half and the timely intro of energy in wee Jimmy worked out for us.
Though that pass to Meslier and the subsequent header had Leeds written all over it.

I'd forgotten about that. Jimmy will be getting some stick from his team mates after that.