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09/10/2022
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andrewjohnsmith wrote: ↑Sun Oct 09, 2022 5:06 pm Did you forget Raphinha already?
Only kidding ;-)
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Carrick Dave wrote: ↑Sun Oct 09, 2022 5:21 pm So if Merson was right as Hector rightly says, where’s the fitness gone? If we can’t match Palace for 90 minutes, why not?
I don't know the answer to that question, Davy :duno:
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DDB220 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 09, 2022 6:55 pm To be fair to Marsch I do not think he is doing a bad job. The Brentford game aside we haven’t been turned over this season. Game management has question marks but the problem we have, as many point out, is the bench. From an attacking perspective we are relying on players who have hardly played any mins other than the odd cameo appearance. You really need game time at this level to get to the level required providing you have the talent. 10 mins here or there usually when the team is on the back foot does nothing for confidence.

Arsenal blooded their young starlets early doors on a regular basis, ie Saka, Martinelli and Smith-Rowe. The first two are now the first names on the team sheet. I am not suggesting ours are in the same class but we will never know, because they are not given a proper opportunity. The club hierarchy bang on about the young talent been the reason for not needing to sign another striker. Marsch needs to man up and make it clear they are not good enough if that is the case.

Not sure if Marsch is a yes man, but he should be banging on Radz door everyday and spelling out that we are at least two to three players short.
Well said. :tup:

Tbf Marsch said we needed a striker, but the club gave the usual delusional comments, until they panicked after Rodrigo got injured.
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I thought first half hour we were excellent today, but the second half performance was shocking. The fitness seems to be lacking, teams are realising if they can stay with us first half they can take over in the second.
Worry for me is we are not getting enough points from what you would consider the bottom half teams. We still have most of the top six teams to come.
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andrewjohnsmith wrote: ↑Sun Oct 09, 2022 5:35 pm Disagree. Wasn't a fitness issue. Palace just showed better quality 2nd half. Fitness only in regards to Bamford coming back from injury. Other than that, it was a tactical and quality difference rather than fitness.
Merson said that we wouldn’t be able to maintain the press for 90 minutes, we would tire and then their quality would win them the game.

That’s exactly what happened, which pisses me off btw as Merson is very anti-Leeds generally.
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DDB220 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 09, 2022 6:55 pm To be fair to Marsch I do not think he is doing a bad job. The Brentford game aside we haven’t been turned over this season. Game management has question marks but the problem we have, as many point out, is the bench. From an attacking perspective we are relying on players who have hardly played any mins other than the odd cameo appearance. You really need game time at this level to get to the level required providing you have the talent. 10 mins here or there usually when the team is on the back foot does nothing for confidence.

Arsenal blooded their young starlets early doors on a regular basis, ie Saka, Martinelli and Smith-Rowe. The first two are now the first names on the team sheet. I am not suggesting ours are in the same class but we will never know, because they are not given a proper opportunity. The club hierarchy bang on about the young talent been the reason for not needing to sign another striker. Marsch needs to man up and make it clear they are not good enough if that is the case.

Not sure if Marsch is a yes man, but he should be banging on Radz door everyday and spelling out that we are at least two to three players short.
With you on this DDB. I’m not totally writing off Jesse. Not at all. The bench is not great but does he use it well that is the question.
If we have any young talented players people say oooh don’t push them too hard they’re only little. Can’t have that as youngsters who are talented have an arrogance and I’d prefer to see them tested rather than hold them back. Perhaps we’d prefer to keep playing Klich, Ayling & Mr Gums Bamford
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whiteswan wrote: ↑Sun Oct 09, 2022 5:36 pm It's not good enough Leon. How anyone can be satisfied with our performances/results amazes me.
I don't know Swannie, but people have opinions & see things differently.

Did you read this topic I posted this morning?

Link below.

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One of my points actually occurred today, though I put the mockers on my last point :(
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SG90 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 09, 2022 5:39 pm Yep they had more creativity. The ball in from Olise just needed a touch and it's in. We kept Zaha quiet, but then they have Eze and Olise. We only really have Sinisterra.
So, why do Palace have such quality & we only have Sinisterra?
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1964white wrote: ↑Sun Oct 09, 2022 6:51 pm If we didn't want to purchase a CB for this season

Tarkowski (free) & Coady (on loan) were available. Everton snapped them both up.

Meanwhile Charlie Taylor remains at Burnley, would have immediately resolved our LB problem & we'd have got him for a song.
At the time I said on here that we made an error not trying to get Tarkowski and or Coady. I really believe currently we would have at least 6 more points if we'd done that.
Just how pissed off are we going to be at the end of January?
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andrewjohnsmith wrote: ↑Sun Oct 09, 2022 5:42 pm What I was saying earlier. Any one of that trio would walk into our team. Remember when Angus said we would sign the cream of the championship (Eze) and we signed Rodrigo instead.
Would have been cheaper, also I like players of an African descent.
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1964white wrote: ↑Sun Oct 09, 2022 7:14 pm So, why do Palace have such quality & we only have Sinisterra?
As above, Olise and Eze wouldn’t leave London.

Isn’t the real question why do we only have Sinisterra?
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1964white wrote: ↑Sun Oct 09, 2022 7:14 pm So, why do Palace have such quality & we only have Sinisterra?
We have more quality than that. Aaronson. What a run for the goal. How many players tried to hack him down. We were easily the equal of Palace. This was no Brentford s**t show, silly errors cost us the game
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1964white wrote: ↑Sun Oct 09, 2022 7:14 pm So, why do Palace have such quality & we only have Sinisterra?
They have had a lot more TV money than we have and have owners who fund the club.
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Leeds1000 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 09, 2022 6:21 pm I have been working all day, avoided my phone despite the numerous messages on it. I was really looking forward to watching the replay advertised at 6.00pm. No sign of the replay (god only knows what time that will start) so i needed to put myself out of my misery, unfortunately i have just increased it tenfold.
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Jaydog wrote: ↑Sun Oct 09, 2022 7:18 pm We have more quality than that. Aaronson. What a run for the goal. How many players tried to hack him down. We were easily the equal of Palace. This was no Brentford s**t show, silly errors cost us the game
Aaronson is good, but got no help from the strikers today.
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Jaydog wrote: ↑Sun Oct 09, 2022 7:18 pm We have more quality than that. Aaronson. What a run for the goal. How many players tried to hack him down. We were easily the equal of Palace. This was no Brentford s**t show, silly errors cost us the game
Thing is Jay, it was simply a moment of individual brilliance which allowed us to score, nothing else. Not planned, not a triumph for the system. And nothing much after that.
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White Riot wrote: ↑Sun Oct 09, 2022 6:34 pm But they have learned a lesson, spend nowt and pray 🙏 to stay up last season worked, so let's give it another go :)

Meanwhile Radz wallet is bursting at the seams "Angus go and write some bollocks in the programme for the next match, Victor go and have a punch up with our fans. We've already got our sacrificial star spangled goat ready with a knife at his throat if things go to shite again. Good job lads". :lol:
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I know I shouldn't laugh as what's going on really concerns me, I refuse to allow LUFC spoil the rest of my weekend though.
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Carrick Dave wrote: ↑Sun Oct 09, 2022 7:21 pm Thing is Jay, it was simply a moment of individual brilliance which allowed us to score, nothing else. Not planned, not a triumph for the system. And nothing much after that.
Bamfords chance? Any decent striker buries that and it’s 2-0 in 20 minutes. Different game then.
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SG90 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 09, 2022 6:47 pm Academy has gone backwards :(
Well we were relegated.
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Jaydog wrote: ↑Sun Oct 09, 2022 7:25 pm Bamfords chance? Any decent striker buries that and it’s 2-0 in 20 minutes. Different game then.
We conceded straight after that as well.
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