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29/10/2022
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All-time record vs Liverpool
123
Played
28
Won
33
Drawn
62
Lost
-86
GD
23%
Win %
Away record
59
Played
8
Won
14
Drawn
37
Lost
-75
GD
14%
Win %
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23/02/2022 Anfield 6–0 L Premier League ↗
12/09/2021 Elland Road 0–3 L Premier League ↗
19/04/2021 Elland Road 1–1 D Premier League ↗
12/09/2020 Anfield 4–3 L Premier League ↗
29/11/2016 Anfield 2–0 L EFL Cup 5th Round ↗
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1 Tom Jennings 7
2 Mick Jones 6
3 Mark Viduka 6
4 Harry Duggan 5
5 Russell Wainscoat 5
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Def Koch
Def Cooper ©
Def Struijk
Mid Adams
Mid Roca
Mid Harrison
Mid Aaronson
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Cjay wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 9:18 pm Don't think he will ever get back to it myself.

Maybe some u21 games but it's hard to remember a striker whose gone through thus sort of thing and recovered?

Even Fernando Torres never did.
He scored a hat trick in u21s. Scoring against kids in empty stadiums won't help him. He needs someone to play alongside him who will finish off his work. For example the Summerville goal.
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Cjay wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 9:17 pm Exactly.

I've.never got what Henderson does?

Just one of those players whose just there
He’s a leader
We focus on what happens on the pitch
I suspect Coops Rodrigo Ayling Bambi are our offfield leaders. We need some if them on their leadership on the pitch which is part of the problem

Mes Aaronsen Adams will be leaders …. But they are very young atm
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velo wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 9:21 pm Who is he where does he play ........................
Space?
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faaip wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 9:21 pm You never know and he's fairly cheap. And it's me that's been his biggest critic but I hate throwing people on the scrap heap and you can tell he's really rusty and lacking in confidence... A spell in the 21's should do the trick, it's loaded with quality
Not cheap for us though.

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SG90 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 9:23 pm USA will beat us
Along as it increases Aaronson and Adams value Radz and Orta will be thrilled
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1964white wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 9:19 pm We have to start beating the teams around us.
Would you take a defeat to Forest if we beat scum? :duno: I know I would!
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SG90 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 9:24 pm He scored a hat trick in u21s. Scoring against kids in empty stadiums won't help him. He needs someone to play alongside him who will finish off his work. For example the Summerville goal.
Confidence though

Hopefully help his confidence but it won't improve quality.
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Cjay wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 9:27 pm Along as it increases Aaronson and Adams value Radz and Orta will be thrilled
Saw scum were linked with Adams the other day :roll:
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Jimmy 'Hit That Perfect Beat' tonight. Well pleased for the lad and for Marsch 👏👏👏
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Pullhard wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 9:25 pm He’s a leader
We focus on what happens on the pitch
I suspect Coops Rodrigo Ayling Bambi are our offfield leaders. We need some if them on their leadership on the pitch which is part of the problem

Mes Aaronsen Adams will be leaders …. But they are very young atm
But whats he do?

Keane was a leader but a quality player.

Vieira was similar etc.

A leader is a personality but what does he bring to the party attribute wise?
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Cjay wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 9:28 pm Confidence though

Hopefully help his confidence but it won't improve quality.
Will it? He won't have 50k fans calling him a numpty and screaming at him etc
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SG90 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 9:28 pm Saw scum were linked with Adams the other day :roll:
Victor said in an interview how he hopes the World Cup increases our players value
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Kennyb41 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 8:46 pm Congrats Paul, what i will say, he definitely hasn't lost the lads.
Thanks Kenny. I was about to say the same thing. Jesse has NOT lost the players. I think they still believe in the project. The tactics. And the Manager. But going forward results will speak for themselves. I want him to succeed. But the jury is still out for me.

I liked the positional switch of Harrison and Summerville in the 2nd half. I thought that was tactically smart. And Summerville started to impact the game. He showed some trust in youth by bringing on Gnonto. Not sure I would have done that. But it was a good move. And I think most of us want to see more of the little fella. In the end it's 3 HUGE points. And a good performance. It will be interesting to see what type of performance we get at home against Bournemouth. If it's a shite he will be right back on the hot seat...
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geeno_philly wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 9:05 pm Well done boys. We are a better side than the table indicates. We need (IMO) some senior physicality and size in the middle spine, and some defensive upgrading. But as long as we stay up, and get Prem $ for signings, we will be fine. Interesting to see what January windows brings. We need to get through WC22 injury free.
Our performances have to improve against the other teams. We've taken 6 pts from 3 games against top 6 sides. 6 points from 9 games against the rest, If we're a better side than the table indicates we need to start beating those around us.
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SG90 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 9:29 pm Will it? He won't have 50k fans calling him a c**t and screaming at him etc
Hopefully although like you I do think a large part of his problem is pressure and inability to cope.
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It's easy to see Liverpools problems, it's all the midfield, they totally aren't playing or gelling at all which puts immense pressure on the defence with the way he wants to play.

You see even Klopp wants to persist with his favourite formation of 4-3-3 for when his favoured players come back, Keita for one.

I also didn't think Mane would see them drop off like they have but he has.
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Cjay wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 9:29 pm Victor said in an interview how he hopes the World Cup increases our players value
Well well what a shock. Our only way of spending in January. :roll:
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SG90 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 9:31 pm Well well what a shock. Our only way of spending in January. :roll:
It sounds a bit selfish, but for your players to be revalued, ha,” he told the newspaper when asked for his World Cup hopes.

“That’s the best thing that can happen to a manager. That the United States does phenomenally well, with Tyler Adams, with Brendan Aaronson.

“That Llorente can play for Spain and hopefully Rodrigo will come on board. That Mateusz Klich can play for Poland. All of this benefits us as a club.

“Because maybe they show themselves in a showcase of high performance and there are teams that place a lot of value on that. With Rasmus Kristensen in Denmark and so on.”
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Are Newcastle considered a top 6 side now? :duno:
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Cjay wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 9:33 pm It sounds a bit selfish, but for your players to be revalued, ha,” he told the newspaper when asked for his World Cup hopes.

“That’s the best thing that can happen to a manager. That the United States does phenomenally well, with Tyler Adams, with Brendan Aaronson.

“That Llorente can play for Spain and hopefully Rodrigo will come on board. That Mateusz Klich can play for Poland. All of this benefits us as a club.

“Because maybe they show themselves in a showcase of high performance and there are teams that place a lot of value on that. With Rasmus Kristensen in Denmark and so on.”
They must be kicking themselves turning down Kvichy for Dan James. He will go for big big money.
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