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[BobHirst]

What's stupid about it. Arguably the Liverpool and Bournemouth wins were not the most convincing, but they probably saved Marsch's job at the time. Highlighting that we'd be dead bottom without them shows how precarious our situation is. A classic case of papering over the cracks. I don't see any cue there for you to start being a dick.

It was a stupid comment because you changed a reality to a what-if just to support your agenda.
I think we've all figured out that we would have less points if you didn't include the games we won!

According to Weasel you also need to be more respectful.
Today in 3 different posts in this thread

1. telling one poster "talking complete shite."

2, telling another "My tolerance for fools on the internet is at an all time low, and it hasn't been improved by coming on here this morning."

3. and then you call me a dick because I think your comment is stupid.

[hector]

What's stupid about it. Arguably the Liverpool and Bournemouth wins were not the most convincing, but they probably saved Marsch's job at the time. Highlighting that we'd be dead bottom without them shows how precarious our situation is. A classic case of papering over the cracks. I don't see any cue there for you to start being a dick.

please stop the personal insults

[The Subhuman]

Discount on your grebo outfits...

Designer grebo....shudders

[weasel]

It was a stupid comment because you changed a reality to a what-if just to support your agenda.
I think we've all figured out that we would have less points if you didn't include the games we won!

According to Weasel you also need to be more respectful.
Today in 3 different posts in this thread

1. telling one poster "talking complete shite."

2, telling another "My tolerance for fools on the internet is at an all time low, and it hasn't been improved by coming on here this morning."

3. and then you call me a dick because I think your comment is stupid.

I think everyone needs to calm it with personal insults. The reason I didn't make a comment to the post you highlighted was because the original post to which Sara was replying was deliberately antagonistic.

[Madron]

Without those two results we'd be bottom of the table.

If JM hadn't masterminded the win over Brentford ,we'd be in the Championship now.
If we'd beaten Everton ,Southampton, Fulham, W ham and Villa West Ham we'd now be sitting alongside Liverpool in relative safety.
I remember Wilko being asked a 'what if ?' question when he was our manager.
His reply , 'If my auntie were me uncle'
Using 'what ifs' to suit ones own narrative is pointless and plain bonkers.

[1964white]

Thank you for noticing. Shame you're not a mod, because they never do anything apart from pick me up on my use of language.

Untrue, I'm forever deleting insulting/bad language remarks used by our members. Unfortunately, due to work & other commitments, I haven't been around as much as I would like to be recently.

Everyone needs to calm down & cut out any insulting behaviour!

[Ellandback1]

White MOT-er would make the best Leeds Manager.

Definitely not me - I'd cause mutiny!!!

[The Subhuman]

White MOT-er would make the best Leeds Manager.

Definitely not me - I'd cause mutiny!!!

Weasel.

[weasel]

Weasel.

Make it happen Faaip. Then all you b*ggers can insult me en masse.

[weasel]

You're another one who's totally missed the point of the comment then. Those wins came at a time when many thought his job was in jeopardy. We've thrown away the chance to make a change before the world cup, but it's just papered over the cracks; the rest of our form is bottom of the league terrible.

This is neither a 'what if', nor 'plain bonkers'; it's simply highlighting that 2 wins in 16 should see any manager dismissed. That's not a 'narrative' either, it's the reality at most clubs, most of the time. There isn't really an argument against it, other than 'what if' the replacement was worse, which I don't think is a valid position at all.

I see the point Sara is making. Out of the 16 matches those are our only 2 wins. Out of the other 14 performances, apart from maybe Arsenal, I don't think you could pick any and say we were unlucky and deserved more. As such it isn't a case where someone could say, "Okay we got lucky v Bournemouth but we were robbed against, x, y and z so it evens out."

We could have lost to Liverpool, on another day they take one, or more, of their chances and then win comfortably - the fact Messlier was man of the match speaks volumes. Yes having a keeper make saves is his job but it wasn't a performance wfrom the team where you could say we definitely were the better side, deserved to win etc. If we played that match again 9 times then that would likely have been the only time we won it.

Against Bournemouth we were abysmal for most of the match. Bournemouth scored 3 and could have had a few more. It was therefore a match we could easily have lost.

So the 2 wins were hardly convincing wins whereas the majority (13) of the 14 matches we didn't win we weren't unlucky not to win.

The comparison made about 'If Arsenal had lost all their matches' was not comparable at all as Sara was talking about us winning 2 matches where we got lucky whereas Arsenal have won 14 and whilst they were lucky against us I doubt they were lucky in all the other 13 wins.

[The Subhuman]

Reductio ad Absurdum is fun though

[CHAPELALLMAN]

You're another one who's totally missed the point of the comment then. Those wins came at a time when many thought his job was in jeopardy. We've thrown away the chance to make a change before the world cup, but it's just papered over the cracks; the rest of our form is bottom of the league terrible.

This is neither a 'what if', nor 'plain bonkers'; it's simply highlighting that 2 wins in 16 should see any manager dismissed. That's not a 'narrative' either, it's the reality at most clubs, most of the time. There isn't really an argument against it, other than 'what if' the replacement was worse, which I don't think is a valid position at all.

And if several players had not made ridiculous individual errors whilst defending ( Rodrigo's cross in his own half for example, or Llorente's blunders ) then how would the results look then ? That Arsenal match was an example of points dropped despite a good performance. There have been so many examples of ridiculous individual errors this season. Plus a few glaring misses by Bamford on the odd times that he actually played.

Cut all that out, and right now you are looking at a comfortable mid-table position.

[hector]

Are you going to tell others to stop the antagonistic posts?

Or do we pretend it's all one sided again, and ban Sara.

Same old.

First of all take off your paranoid head please....

Antagonistic posts are not poersonal insults.. You have the ability to not reply to them, and then the person would get fed up.

Personal insults have however been published as a reason to receive a ban.

and whilst you mentioned "ban Sara" Do you not realise, that when you had your permanent ban the other year... I was the only mod at the time who fought your corner and got it overturned to just 2 weeks.

you should really think twice before you piss off the only mod who has been in your corner.

[hector]

Thank you for noticing. Shame you're not a mod, because they never do anything apart from pick me up on my use of language.

Antagonising someone deliberately and repeatedly in multiple threads is fine, saying someone's behaving like a dick (when they are) is a big no no.

You also need to make your mind up.;...

Yesterday you complained about a lack of moderation, so when some actually happens you complain again..

If you do not like the way this site is moderated, you have the choice of freewill and not to come here...

[YorkshireSquare]

Make it happen Faaip. Then all you b*ggers can insult me en masse.

Thought we did that anyway?

[Cjay]

In an effort to get the thread on track again . .

Feyenoord manager Arne Slot

https://spielverlagerung.com/2022/01/29 ... feyenoord/

[Jaydog]

In an effort to get the thread on track again . .

Feyenoord manager Arne Slot

https://spielverlagerung.com/2022/01/29 ... feyenoord/

Nice one. He’d fit in well
Just trying to lighten the mood.
I’ll have a butchers, I enjoy these new manager profiles.

[GreennWhite]

Untrue, I'm forever deleting insulting/bad language remarks used by our members. Unfortunately, due to work & other commitments, I haven't been around as much as I would like to be recently.

Everyone needs to calm down & cut out any insulting behaviour!

The swearing needs to be cut out all together. No need for it in any post. I take it we are all fairly grown up people and we should be able to make a point of doing so without the swearing.
And mixing up letters in the swear word doesn't make it any better, if you think that is acceptable then god help us.

[The Subhuman]

The swearing needs to be cut out all together. No need for it in any post. I take it we are all fairly grown up people and we should be able to make a point of doing so without the swearing.
And mixing up letters in the swear word doesn't make it any better, if you think that is acceptable then god help us.

Nothing wrong with English as a language in all it's forms, I don't see the need for censorship... I am pissed off for getting warnings for correct use of a word when cnut, fook etc gets overlooked.

[GreennWhite]

We all have bad days when we feel the need to swear even if it is only to ourselves , lol .
But i personally dont enjoy reading a message when every other word is a swear word. It doesn't make the message any more relevant or the person any bigger or better.
Just my opinion btw. If swearing makes people feel good then carry on.