Marcelo Bielsa

[weasel]

Obsession is not good thing.

I would suggest it is. It is one of my favourite aftershaves

[Mick Jones shoulder]

Fabulous football under Bielsa, but better than Revie or even O'leary not imo.

[weasel]

Fabulous football under Bielsa, but better than Revie or even O'leary not imo.

Better than under O'Leary although that was great to watch. I would say O'Leary was more akin to Marsch than Bielsa in the way we played as it was all 100mph stuff. Hard to compare to the Revie era as football has moved on plus I was too young to see it.

[YorkshireSquare]

Better than under O'Leary although that was great to watch. I would say O'Leary was more akin to Marsch than Bielsa in the way we played as it was all 100mph stuff. Hard to compare to the Revie era as football has moved on plus I was too young to see it.

Watched that Liverpool 4-3 game a few times recently, amazing how different football was back then. Far less tactically aware, just hell for leather, end to end football.

[Mick Jones shoulder]

Let's be honest the intensity football is now played at wouldn't have been possible in either era. Remember the 70,'s 1 sub and no sub goalkeeper. What were we at in 2000 2 subs ?
5 now it's like frigging rugby . Note I say intensity not physicality.

[Cjay]

Better than under O'Leary although that was great to watch. I would say O'Leary was more akin to Marsch than Bielsa in the way we played as it was all 100mph stuff. Hard to compare to the Revie era as football has moved on plus I was too young to see it.

Very unfair to compare it to Marsch.

That O'Leary side always had a very solid defence and scored plenty of goals.

They were great to watch and the most complete side we have had in decades.

Would run rings around Marsch and Bielsa.

[Mick Jones shoulder]

Obviously decent, managed a champions league semi.....

[weasel]

Very unfair to compare it to Marsch.

That O'Leary side always had a very solid defence and scored plenty of goals.

They were great to watch and the most complete side we have had in decades.

Would run rings around Marsch and Bielsa.

I meant more in the speed at which it is played. The O'Leary team wasn't one for controlling possession but attacking at speed. Like you say a solid defence too. The Bielsa side was possession based (with the ability to strike at speed too). I do think that when O'Leary appointed Brian Kidd his idea was to turn us into more of a possession based team that could control possession.

[weasel]

Watched that Liverpool 4-3 game a few times recently, amazing how different football was back then. Far less tactically aware, just hell for leather, end to end football.

Definitely more about 11 players on the pitch and they knew what their roles were and stuck to them rather than the fluid interchange and everyone moving like a chess match.

[Kennyb41]

Obsession is not good thing.

Says he, as he sits quietly obsessed with moi.

Must dash.

[Kennyb41]

1964 - The rule of thumb with Kenny is to try and simplify your question.

Yep, and there's every chance he'll still ignore it.

[Kennyb41]

I saw Kenny in the crowd today waving a Bielsa flag

I didn't go, i couldn't get a ticket ?

[Kennyb41]

There is no need to defend, Marcelo, we all know what he gave us.

No you do not, you wanted him gone, so it's impossible for you to know what he was giving us.

[Kennyb41]

I have always appreciated his time with us. But it is still all about perspective, it would be boring if everyone agreed all the time. Kenny, keeps imagining what it would be like if he was still here…..relentlessly. Imaginary conversations etc etc. it was funny for about his first 1000 posts , but another 3.5k later it shows no sign of abating.
I am aware I could block his posts but I live in hope he will move on.

Dream on.

[Kennyb41]

Watched that Liverpool 4-3 game a few times recently, amazing how different football was back then. Far less tactically aware, just hell for leather, end to end football.

Berts first game in the Prem to Liverpool 4-3 is worth a few re runs as well, quite good to compare both those games, and the 'football' played

[BlackHillsPaul]

[Kennyb41]

Sign as many USA players as we possibly can

[weasel]

Sign as many USA players as we possibly can

Could you imagine that, being trained by Bielsa for the national team then having to go back to your club and train under JM? You could imagine the players all cryng their eyes out imploring Marcelo not to send them back.

[Irish Ian]

[Irish Ian]