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An absolute mess- Includes post relegation club statement
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Re: An absolute mess
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"Football is about the people and the players,” he said. “Then there are those who will mingle in the middle: the coaches, executives and journalists. That last group represents the worst part about football" Marcelo Bielsa
"Football is about the people and the players,” he said. “Then there are those who will mingle in the middle: the coaches, executives and journalists. That last group represents the worst part about football" Marcelo Bielsa
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Re: An absolute mess
I was saying this to my pal today.
An early goal for Spurs, and I can see it getting incredibly toxic.
I always stay until the end, I won’t be applauding those players though. I suspect the abuse will be deafening (unless the miracle happens of course).
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Re: An absolute mess
Had Adams and sinisterra not been injured we would of had enough this season, as big Sam says the problem is depth, we have an okay first 11 but piss poor when you have to scratch beneath the surface - it’s just not good enough that we have a weaker squad than forest and we had the luxury of 2 more seasons than them in the league.we Spent enough but used it on high priced bad players when we could have scoured the relegated clubs and championship for reinforcements e.g Gyokeres in January instead of Rutter.
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As I always do, KevBarlow Boy wrote: ↑Sun May 21, 2023 4:48 pm I was saying this to my pal today.
An early goal for Spurs, and I can see it getting incredibly toxic.
I always stay until the end I won’t be applauding those players though. I suspect the abuse will be deafening (unless the miracle happens of course).
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Re: An absolute mess
There was more than enough quality on the team. Leeds fired their best in a generation coach Bielsa, then fired the guy who was able to motivate players and keep them up last season. The players they brought in were sold on and suited to high speed pressing football, and they were given a changing queue of defensive managers instead. The players looked confused and deflated.
The fans are addicted to the frisson of firing the managers, directors, board, and players, whether there are alternatives in place or not. Unless you have a bankroll like Chelsea, teams like that will get the drop.
The fans are addicted to the frisson of firing the managers, directors, board, and players, whether there are alternatives in place or not. Unless you have a bankroll like Chelsea, teams like that will get the drop.
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Re: An absolute mess
As said about a million times on here, it all goes back to 2 years to when the board refused to build on a 9th place finish, and were sentimental in moving on from the Championship. If Alioski had signed a new contract, and scum hadn't bought Ronaldo, we actually wouldn't have signed a player last season. Ridiculous.
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James will back at his level next season.SG90 wrote: ↑Sun May 21, 2023 5:05 pm As said about a million times on here, it all goes back to 2 years to when the board refused to build on a 9th place finish, and were sentimental in moving on from the Championship. If Alioski had signed a new contract, and scum hadn't bought Ronaldo, we actually wouldn't have signed a player last season. Ridiculous.
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Peculiar that you suggest that contributors buy into Cjay's narratives which would therefore suggest that Cjay starting this thread has relevance as other posters would be interested. As such I'm sure there was enough interest so there probabyl wasn't much need for you to post that you didn't find it of interest. Perhaps you stumbled on the thread by mistake and were just browsing to see examples of different types of messes and the thought of an absolute one really got your gander going.DDB220 wrote: ↑Sun May 21, 2023 3:07 pm Left ?? What makes you think I would leave. There has to be a challenge to your constant despondency. Everyone is pissed off - yet you feel this self indulgent need to feed off despondency and hope for affirmation from the contributors who buy into your narratives.
Is this your definition of insightfulness ?
Victor_Notts-17 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2026 7:03 pm Did you post them because there's something wrong with your brain
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You also have to take into the account the lack of confidence and a losing mentality at the club over the last two years. That won't be so easy to shake off.
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Re: An absolute mess
Agreed, manager is key. We've now had three s**t ones in a rowandrewjohnsmith wrote: ↑Sun May 21, 2023 4:21 pm We have the players right now that could get us promoted immediately. We'll lose a handful. But throw some of our loanees and youngsters into the mix and we've got enough.
But it needs a decent manager to make it happen.
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Trouble is how many Bielsas are there around that can improve players to the level he did? He was a miracle worker to do what he did yet so many fans and the owners didn't see it. Playing football manager games and thinking that by playing apark the bus tactic we would be better or dropping players to bring in youngsters would make us better.andrewjohnsmith wrote: ↑Sun May 21, 2023 4:06 pm Remember we needed a squad overhaul when Bielsa came in.
He didn't overhaul the squad. Just made everyone better.
We had someone beautiful but we decided to sleep with any dirty old sl*g we could. And now we have got what we deserve. We're back to being the unattractive laughing stock rather than being able to walk down the street with our head held high and everyone being jealous of us because of what we had.
Victor_Notts-17 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2026 7:03 pm Did you post them because there's something wrong with your brain
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Re: An absolute mess
Hope you stick around bud.Kennyb41 wrote: ↑Sun May 21, 2023 4:06 pm Here this'll brighten some of you lots day, every cloud anorl that......You've probably got rid of me for the most part, i only joined coz i was amazed with the work Bert had done with our bob standard shite players.....
Just remember to wake me up if we ever find his kind again wilt![]()
Needless to say, i won't be holding my breath, and back to sq 1 it is then.
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Victor_Notts-17 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2026 7:03 pm Did you post them because there's something wrong with your brain
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Re: An absolute mess
I doubt any other fans were jealous. They just thought “oh that’s Leeds Utd give it five minutes and they’ll probably f**k it up. Yup, there you go”.weasel wrote: ↑Sun May 21, 2023 5:29 pm Trouble is how many Bielsas are there around that can improve players to the level he did? He was a miracle worker to do what he did yet so many fans and the owners didn't see it. Playing football manager games and thinking that by playing apark the bus tactic we would be better or dropping players to bring in youngsters would make us better.
We had someone beautiful but we decided to sleep with any dirty old sl*g we could. And now we have got what we deserve. We're back to being the unattractive laughing stock rather than being able to walk down the street with our head held high and everyone being jealous of us because of what we had.
If f**king it up was a league then we’d be very successful.
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Re: An absolute mess
We have won 11 games since Marcelo Bielsa left.weasel wrote: ↑Sun May 21, 2023 5:29 pm Trouble is how many Bielsas are there around that can improve players to the level he did? He was a miracle worker to do what he did yet so many fans and the owners didn't see it. Playing football manager games and thinking that by playing apark the bus tactic we would be better or dropping players to bring in youngsters would make us better.
We had someone beautiful but we decided to sleep with any dirty old sl*g we could. And now we have got what we deserve. We're back to being the unattractive laughing stock rather than being able to walk down the street with our head held high and everyone being jealous of us because of what we had.
And here we are back to square 1.
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Stick around, Kenny Boy, you're good value on here, mate. Despite the Bert obsession!!Kennyb41 wrote: ↑Sun May 21, 2023 4:06 pm Here this'll brighten some of you lots day, every cloud anorl that......You've probably got rid of me for the most part, i only joined coz i was amazed with the work Bert had done with our bob standard shite players.....
Just remember to wake me up if we ever find his kind again wilt![]()
Needless to say, i won't be holding my breath, and back to sq 1 it is then.
All the Bert sackers got what they wished for innit![]()
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Re: An absolute mess
We were struggling with him last year too. And didn't win a game with Cooper, KP and Bamford in the starting line up, before the injuries excuse rattles up.
For me that sums up this season. How many fans put last season simply down to injuries rather than a poor squad? No doubt the board said the same. Hence the stupidity that we could continue on in the same vein.
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Come on Kenny! Bit of respect please!Kennyb41 wrote: ↑Sun May 21, 2023 4:06 pm Here this'll brighten some of you lots day, every cloud anorl that......You've probably got rid of me for the most part, i only joined coz i was amazed with the work Bert had done with our bob standard shite players.....
Just remember to wake me up if we ever find his kind again wilt![]()
Needless to say, i won't be holding my breath, and back to sq 1 it is then.
All the Bert sackers got what they wished for innit![]()
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Bielsa admitted that he couldn't keep going for a 4th season with the same squad.SG90 wrote: ↑Sun May 21, 2023 7:37 pm We were struggling with him last year too. And didn't win a game with Cooper, KP and Bamford in the starting line up, before the injuries excuse rattles up.
For me that sums up this season. How many fans put last season simply down to injuries rather than a poor squad? No doubt the board said the same. Hence the stupidity that we could continue on in the same vein.
Blame it on Orta. He couldn't find the right players to keep us improving. Orta should have been replaced 2 years ago.