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Kennyb41 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 7:16 pm I don't think the majority here realise the difference between a Championship player and a Prem player and definitely don't know about under 23 players stepping up.

And managers take all the blame for the tools they are handed being expected like Bert to work miracles ALL the time.

TAKE A LOOK AT THE PLAYERS FFS !!
A very valid point Mr B. Farke took players who had been good enough to win the championship twice and couldn't do anything with them in the Prem. Bielsa took players that were mid table championship, guided them to the prem, had them more than making up the numbers and then even with half of those players out through injury still made it so that they were able to compete with most of the teams.
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weasel wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 8:01 pm A very valid point Mr B. Farke took players who had been good enough to win the championship twice and couldn't do anything with them in the Prem. Bielsa took players that were mid table championship, guided them to the prem, had them more than making up the numbers and then even with half of those players out through injury still made it so that they were able to compete with most of the teams.
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That is pretty s**t though isn’t it. It seems to suggest not only the players level but quite possibly the managers level. But if we want a quick return perhaps he may be the best option. Certainly better than Corberan Yawn & Gerrard Stroppy Scouser
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weasel wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 8:01 pm A very valid point Mr B. Farke took players who had been good enough to win the championship twice and couldn't do anything with them in the Prem. Bielsa took players that were mid table championship, guided them to the prem, had them more than making up the numbers and then even with half of those players out through injury still made it so that they were able to compete with most of the teams.
Yip, and some muppets expect top 6 with a clown buying for them.

You couldn't make it up.

And they've now got what a few of us knew they would, ahh well, can't say we didn't tell em so.

Wait till next new lamb to the slaughter takes the reins, Cjay et al will be demanding this n that immediately, and fer years ta come.

Our Yankee friends know more than the English lot here.
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Kennyb41 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 7:13 pm Jesus H !

When are you gonna open your eyes ffs !!!

Bert left !
This isn't relevant to our new manager thread
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Cjay wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 8:32 pm This isn't relevant to our new manager thread
I would suggest it is because people are dismissing Farke as an option for achieving less than a manager we sacked, and they wanted sacked, did. So it would seem whoever we appoint has to not only get us promoted but established as a top 6 side regardless of what level of financial backing he/she gets.
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The players you need to get promotion aren't necessarily the ones you then need in the higher division, e.g. Vinnie Jones under Wilkinson.
Could well argue the same about a manager, although that would be an even harder decision to make.
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Jimstorrie wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2023 6:33 am The players you need to get promotion aren't necessarily the ones you then need in the higher division, e.g. Vinnie Jones under Wilkinson.
Could well argue the same about a manager, although that would be an even harder decision to make.
Absolutely correct, 2 totally different levels of A. Player.....B. Football....C. Brute force.....D. 46 games occurring more quickly.

But we'll be reet with our levels of fitness and mish mash.
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I'd actually be happy letting Farke have a bash at it, deffo over the previously linked managers.
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Michael on TSB would be happy.....he does a cracking Farke impression :-D
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Muppet the Cat wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2023 12:30 pm Michael on TSB would be happy.....he does a cracking Farke impression :-D
Aye, he does :tup: Michael has few impressions in his repertoire :-D
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Carlos Carvahal has reportedly held talks with about becoming head coach next season.

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BradWhite wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 12:53 pm Carlos Carvahal has reportedly held talks with about becoming head coach next season.

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We are going to end up with someone s**t aren't we thanks to Angus and his advice from Big Sam.
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Hewin wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2023 12:13 pm I'd actually be happy letting Farke have a bash at it, deffo over the previously linked managers.
Me too. :tup:
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BlackHillsPaul wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 3:23 pm I still think Gerardo "Tata" Martino would be a good pick for Leeds United in the Championship. His only job outside of the America's was with Barcelona. And that didn't go particularly well. Mostly because he employs a pressing and attacking style similar to Bielsa. At Barca he was forced to continue the Tiki Taka style. And it just didn't work. He then went to on to Manage MLS expansion side Atlanta United to an MLS Cup Championship and was named Manager of the Year.

NOTE: He is currently the favorite to become Manager of Inter Miami. They need an experienced Manager that can work with Messi. I guess Phil Neville was not the man for the job.... :roflmao:
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God help Canada :lol: :lol:
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GreennWhite wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 6:55 pm God help Canada :lol: :lol:
At least they HAVE a manager ... and now 2 assistants. ;-) More than we can say - and if we're really talking to Carvalhal, I think I'd take the Canadian crew!
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BlackHillsPaul wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 3:23 pm I still think Gerardo "Tata" Martino would be a good pick for Leeds United in the Championship. His only job outside of the America's was with Barcelona. And that didn't go particularly well. Mostly because he employs a pressing and attacking style similar to Bielsa. At Barca he was forced to continue the Tiki Taka style. And it just didn't work. He then went to on to Manage MLS expansion side Atlanta United to an MLS Cup Championship and was named Manager of the Year.

NOTE: He is currently the favorite to become Manager of Inter Miami. They need an experienced Manager that can work with Messi. I guess Phil Neville was not the man for the job.... :roflmao:
Do you think he could make the transition to the Championship?
Don't know too much about him. But 2 games a week for almost 9 months needs some related experience.
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The drop off between Rodgers and Farke is greater than Bielsa and Marsch.
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Cjay wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 7:22 pm
The drop off between Rodgers and Farke is greater than Bielsa and Marsch.
How so?
Seems somebody may think Vieira has a squeak too
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