Next Manager poll-

[Cjay]

Maybe maybe not, but he's probably seen more live football than you or I probably interacted with more players, probably talked to more people that know about football....

Selecting a manager is a lottery where 40% is an excellent record. I've no clue if he'll hire our new manager or not, I've no clue if the Niners will leave the ball in his court but one things for sure he's in a better position to do that job than you or I if it push came to shove

Lets vote on who we'd select and report transfer rumours that won't come true til the cows come home and let the cards fall where they may.... Part of being a fan is acceptance and then support till the player/manager proves himself or herself inept

Get that bit nailed and your golden

I'd just prefer football people making football decisions.

I don't imagine even Angus would claim this is his specialist skill.

He's an executive, a money man

He isn't an expert on managers or implementing playing philosophy

You can see it in the manager list.

We could have picked those managers, there is nobody a normal fan couldn't have picked out and gone yeah he'll do a job maybe.

That's why I'd have preferred a Director of Football first

When non football people start making on field decisions it rarely goes well.

Look at Chelsea or even Manure last few years.

We will see I suppose.

Hopefully they get it right and we can have have good season.

But it's ridiculous to limit yourself to such a small pool of managers as we have done because we haven't anyone with the knowledge to widen it.

[Leeds1000]

No surprises its Rogers for me. Potter close second. Farke's been there and done it but what does he know about Leeds. And i think the job is too early for Corberan.

[VinnysTattoo]

Potter for me if he’d come.

Both of us need a reset so why not.

If we’d stayed up it would have been a bit of an ordeal. More so now.

[1964white]

Ooh, someone else has voted for Michael Carrick

[The Subhuman]

I'd just prefer football people making football decisions.

How do you become a "football people" ?

[The Subhuman]

Ooh, someone else has voted for Michael Carrick

Ooh, someone else has voted for Patrick Vierra

[Jaydog]

Ooh, someone else has voted for Patrick Vierra

Ooh, no one’s voted for Tony Mowbray. Boo

[Cjay]

How do you become a "football people" ?

By training, gaining the knowledge, being experienced in positions linked to on field football decisions

Scouting, recruitment, analysis etc.

Kinnear is none of those things.

His background is marketing, corporate stuff, at Arsenal, West Ham and us.

He has no background in picking managers, he has no background in anything linked to on field football decisions.

He's very similar to Ed Woodward at Manchester United few years back.

He certainly isn't qualified to recommend managers to a venture capital fund who are equally unqualified.

[Aussieleeds]

Is that why Bamford is always injured now ....trying to graft his skin back ?

I did laugh out loud at that.

[LoinerBoy]

MARCELO BIELSA HAS JUST TAKEN THE URUGUAY JOB SO DONT WASTE YOUR TIME KENNY

[The Subhuman]

By training, gaining the knowledge, being experienced in positions linked to on field football decisions

Scouting, recruitment, analysis etc.

Kinnear is none of those things.

His background is marketing, corporate stuff, at Arsenal, West Ham and us.

He has no background in picking managers, he has no background in anything linked to on field football decisions.

He's very similar to Ed Woodward at Manchester United few years back.

He certainly isn't qualified to recommend managers to a venture capital fund who are equally unqualified.

But my point is he's more qualified than us .... a hell of a lot more... Scouting and recruitment he'd be aqauinted with vicariously or by osmosis to start with. Unless he hates football of course and he just goes to work to sort out sponsers and advertisers....

[SG90]

Rodgers out of that lot. But Lucien Favre would also be a good shout. We need someone who isn't walking into the biggest job of their career. No surprises it took a manager like Bielsa to take us up. Hopefully the 49ers show more ambition than Radz.

[Jaydog]

Rodgers out of that lot. But Lucien Favre would also be a good shout. We need someone who isn't walking into the biggest job of their career. No surprises it took a manager like Bielsa to take us up. Hopefully the 49ers show more ambition than Radz.

Favre has been mentioned before on here. Cjay probably. He turned down Palace & someone else in the Prem. Think he’d agreed a 3 year deal with Palace.
Would he come to the Championship. That’s the problem with some of the bigger names

[1964white]

Rodgers out of that lot. But Lucien Favre would also be a good shout. We need someone who isn't walking into the biggest job of their career. No surprises it took a manager like Bielsa to take us up. Hopefully the 49ers show more ambition than Radz.

The last six championships have been won by teams with a foreign coach in charge.

[weasel]

The last six championships have been won by teams with a foreign coach in charge.

Farke me that puts Bielsa in good Kompany.

Statistically Bielsa has the 2nd highest points per match average out of all the managers to have managed in the EFL Championship only behind Keegan.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/champio ... bewerb/GB2

Not bad for a foreigner with no prior experience of the english game and nable to speak the lingo.

[Aussieleeds]

Farke me that puts Bielsa in good Kompany.

Statistically Bielsa has the 2nd highest points per match average out of all the managers to have managed in the EFL Championship only behind Keegan.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/champio ... bewerb/GB2

Not bad for a foreigner with no prior experience of the english game and nable to speak the lingo.

Weasel, Bielsa instigated a fantastic style of football and made players better. I do question a few things but so be it. The question I have for you is “Why has no really big club ever considered Bielsa? They’ve preferred Ancellotti, Ranieri, Conte, Mourinho, et etc - never Bielsa??? Why? What do you and Kenny know that they don’t?

[1964white]

Farke me that puts Bielsa in good Kompany.

I see what you did there

[Cjay]

But my point is he's more qualified than us .... a hell of a lot more... Scouting and recruitment he'd be aqauinted with vicariously or by osmosis to start with. Unless he hates football of course and he just goes to work to sort out sponsers and advertisers....

No evidence he is though.

We have no idea how deep his interest in football goes beyond it being part of his job to attend matches

There are footballers who openly admit they have no actual interest in football.

Kinnear's background is marketing, for Coca-Cola, for Procter and Gamble, for Arsenal, West Ham. He's only been in a position that requires even a vague interest in on field matters with us.

And even that is just because he is CEO.

He I'm sure has a vague understanding but that is reflected in this manager list, you could have put that list together.

When he interviews these managers and they present there ideas how is Kinnear meant to analyse them good and bad? When they are showing him graphs on this and stats on that how much of it will he truly understand?

I think his list of targets and the fact he is focusing on such a tiny pool of targets shows he doesn't have the experience to be doing what he is being asked to do

Not his fault but I think think DOF would have cast the net far wider and found much better potential targets.

Kinnear having more knowledge than a fan isn't the issue (not convinced he does) but there is a reason almost every club has DOF's and various other people analysing football managers and not the CEO.

Besides it's odd that it was apparently the 49ers who told Radz to go for the best biggest appointment they could.

Nobody on that list aside from maybe Rodgers ticks that box.

Do as I say not as I do

[Cjay]

Rodgers out of that lot. But Lucien Favre would also be a good shout. We need someone who isn't walking into the biggest job of their career. No surprises it took a manager like Bielsa to take us up. Hopefully the 49ers show more ambition than Radz.

Unless Phil is lying to us people like Favre aren't even being considered

They are solely focused on domestic targets for some strange reason.

Disappointing

[lufc1304]

I went Knutsen based on a couple of post Cjay did regarding him. I like his style, philosophy and I'm not put off by him having only managed in Scandinavia. Whether or not he's even being considered is another thing. Of the perhaps more likely targets, Rodgers, Potter or Farke. I also like the Favre suggestion, but most likely pie in the sky