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Bournemouth have reacted to circumstance and acted decisively when it presented.

It is not a case of not been able to compete with nBournemouth. We are now a championship club with a mountain of crap to sort out. Whereas they are a premiership club with a strategy. It is a no brainier decision.
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Cjay wrote: ↑Mon Jun 19, 2023 1:28 pm Iraola now favourite for the Bournemouth job.

Happy days.

Back to being not able to compete with Bournemouth
We're a joke, Cjay.

Miles behind the likes of Bournemouth, Burnley, Sheff Utd, Brighton, Fulham, Palace, Brentford & Forest. We are a one city club, unlike five of those mentioned.

All smaller clubs managed far more efficiently & effectively than Leeds United :verysad:
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Cjay wrote: ↑Mon Jun 19, 2023 2:05 pm
3 hours to sack a manager and appoint a new one.

And likely recommendation from Bielsa who they spoke to few months ago.
I'd assume Bournemouth management had a plan & this appointment was in the pipeline for weeks/months, better than having no plan on & off the pitch.

Saying that, I truly hope this managerial change backfires on them.
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Manager chooses money and premiership football over championship football shock….I don’t give a s**t he chose Bournemouth
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The Subhuman wrote: ↑Mon Jun 19, 2023 4:37 pm Manager chooses money and premiership football over championship football shock….I don’t give a s**t he chose Bournemouth
Areola didn't choose Leeds when we approached him last season.

We were clueless after firing Bielsa, in fact for a few months prior to his sacking.

Two years of mismanagement & we find ourselves back in the championship.
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1964white wrote: ↑Mon Jun 19, 2023 3:45 pm We're a joke, Cjay.

Miles behind the likes of Bournemouth, Burnley, Sheff Utd, Brighton, Fulham, Palace, Brentford & Forest. We are a one city club, unlike five of those mentioned.

All smaller clubs managed far more efficiently & effectively than Leeds United :verysad:
Used to it mate :lol:
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1964white wrote: ↑Mon Jun 19, 2023 3:52 pm I'd assume Bournemouth management had a plan & this appointment was in the pipeline for weeks/months, better than having no plan on & off the pitch.

Saying that, I truly hope this managerial change backfires on them.
They acted really fast fair play to them.

Our new owners had no plan which is seemingly evident now beyond letting the CEO of the last failed regime pick our next manager based on his extensive marketing experience, advice from Sam Allardyce and Transfermarkt.com
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Cjay wrote: ↑Mon Jun 19, 2023 5:07 pm They acted really fast fair play to them.

Our new owners had no plan which is seemingly evident now beyond letting the CEO of the last failed regime pick our next manager based on his extensive marketing experience, advice from Sam Allardyce and Transfermarkt.com
Important from here on, the niners make the correct decisions.
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1964white wrote: ↑Mon Jun 19, 2023 5:12 pm Important from here on, the niners make the correct decisions.
Not off to a great start at all.

Letting Kinnear lead our manager hunt was bonkers.
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1964white wrote: ↑Mon Jun 19, 2023 4:49 pm Areola didn't choose Leeds when we approached him last season.

We were clueless after firing Bielsa, in fact for a few months prior to his sacking.

Two years of mismanagement & we find ourselves back in the championship.
If you believe the forum, Marsch was already in place 6 months before Bielsa was fired .... At the moment we're going through the progressions of new ownership, it happens ...Give them time, we have plenty
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1964white wrote: ↑Mon Jun 19, 2023 5:12 pm Important from here on, the niners make the correct decisions.
I would not hold your breath. Not like they haven't been part of club governance for 5 years.

From a football perspective, I don't think they could organize a piss-up in a brewery. I hope I'm wrong and they focus their attention on where they can add value and stay out of the dressing room.

Its all very well blaming Radz and his stooges for the poor leadership, but the 49ers have not been innocent (they've had a significant share for a while now).
Do we really think Radz was able to dominate the board-room for the past 5 years? UNLESS ----- this was one possible outcome for them - "how do get to buy a controlling interest at the lowest cost?". easy let the club fail in the short-term.
Wouldn't be the first time in the mergers/acquisitions game.

I will remain cynical and skeptical until they step out of the shadows and talk like owners - mainly to the fans. Until then, I expect the Glazers.
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The Subhuman wrote: ↑Mon Jun 19, 2023 6:37 pm If you believe the forum, Marsch was already in place 6 months before Bielsa was fired .... At the moment we're going through the progressions of new ownership, it happens ...Give them time, we have plenty
At the moment we seem to be approaching a t-junction and we don't know whether to turn right or left.
There is a line of cars behind us.
Unfortunately we don't appear to have a satnav or a map.
Do we really have the time?
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Jimstorrie wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 6:09 am At the moment we seem to be approaching a t-junction and we don't know whether to turn right or left.
There is a line of cars behind us.
Unfortunately we don't appear to have a satnav or a map.
Do we really have the time?
I think we do.
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Chelsea have signed France striker Christopher Nkunku from RB Leipzig for £52m.

The 25-year-old scored 16 goals in 25 games in the Bundesliga last season.

Nkunku, who has won 10 caps for France, is manager Mauricio Pochettino's first signing since he took charge in May.
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malcolmw wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 1:35 am I would not hold your breath. Not like they haven't been part of club governance for 5 years.

From a football perspective, I don't think they could organize a piss-up in a brewery. I hope I'm wrong and they focus their attention on where they can add value and stay out of the dressing room.

Its all very well blaming Radz and his stooges for the poor leadership, but the 49ers have not been innocent (they've had a significant share for a while now).
Do we really think Radz was able to dominate the board-room for the past 5 years? UNLESS ----- this was one possible outcome for them - "how do get to buy a controlling interest at the lowest cost?". easy let the club fail in the short-term.
Wouldn't be the first time in the mergers/acquisitions game.

I will remain cynical and skeptical until they step out of the shadows and talk like owners - mainly to the fans. Until then, I expect the Glazers.
I'll know which direction we are heading come August, once the appointment of a coach & the squad we go into the new season is apparent.

I knew we were heading back to the championship as far back as January 2022. Losing at Forest & Everton plus the loss of Adams, Rodrigo & Sinisterra confirmed my fears of the fragility of our squad & relegation. Our inability to win home games against Palace & Leicester was the final roll of the dice, which we screwed up admirably.
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The Subhuman wrote: ↑Mon Jun 19, 2023 6:37 pm If you believe the forum, Marsch was already in place 6 months before Bielsa was fired .... At the moment we're going through the progressions of new ownership, it happens ...Give them time, we have plenty
Tbf Orta said all they did when appointing Marsch was bring there plans forward and Marsch said he first had a long chat with Orta about taking charge in 2020.

They were lining Marsch up for years.
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West Ham United have rejected a second bid from Arsenal for their captain Declan Rice.

That's the way to handle clubs bidding for our best players, Leeds United
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Something very dodgy going on here.

Clearlake Capital who are one of the major shareholders in Chelsea have PIF the state fund that runs Newcastle (but denies they are state governed) as major shareholders.

PIF also own multiple clubs in Saudi Arabia.

Chelsea need to sell for ffp reasons.

Random Saudi clubs buying there unwanted players.

It's not even subtle ffs
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Man City agree deal to sign midfielder Mateo Kovacic from Chelsea. I wonder where that leaves Kalvin?
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Cjay wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 9:40 am
Something very dodgy going on here.

Clearlake Capital who are one of the major shareholders in Chelsea have PIF the state fund that runs Newcastle (but denies they are state governed) as major shareholders.

PIF also own multiple clubs in Saudi Arabia.

Chelsea need to sell for ffp reasons.

Random Saudi clubs buying there unwanted players.

It's not even subtle ffs
Kante gone to Al Hilal as well
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