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Ipswich Town v Leeds United
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26/08/2023
Portman Road
Leeds United
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85
Played
35
Won
21
Drawn
29
Lost
+10
GD
41%
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Away record
43
Played
12
Won
10
Drawn
21
Lost
-18
GD
28%
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DateGroundScoreCompetition
05/05/2019 Portman Road 3–2 L Championship ↗
24/10/2018 Elland Road 2–0 W Championship ↗
13/01/2018 Portman Road 1–0 L Championship ↗
23/09/2017 Elland Road 3–2 W Championship ↗
18/02/2017 Portman Road 1–1 D Championship ↗
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1 Allan Clarke 8
2 Peter Lorimer 6
3 Trevor Cherry 4
4 Ross McCormack 4
5 Johnny Giles 4
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26 Darlow
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I think the team deserve a lot of credit for keep their nerve in the second half, and battening down the hatches. They were all over us for the first 25 minutes of the second half. Sinisterra's strike absolutely finished them off.

Ipswich 3-4 Leeds

xG: 2.32-1.5
Goals: 3-4
Possession: 57%-43%
Touches: 697-581
Shots: 21-14
Big Chances: 2-5
Chances Created: 19-11
On-Target: 6-9
Succ. Passes: 421-303
Pass Accuracy: 84%-81%
Succ. Take-Ons: 5-10
Accurate Crosses: 5-3
Duels Won: 56-54
Tackles Won: 30-17
Interceptions: 7-7
Clearances: 7-25
Corners: 8-4
Goalkeeper Saves: 5-4
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Cjay wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 5:05 pm Already said on here somewhere.

Ipswich had 20 shots and could have scored more.
So what does DF need to do with our players and whom ?
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Cjay wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 5:12 pm Basically yes.

Farke decided to be more counter attacking and relax the press a lot rather than our usual game.

Didn't think it worked as he kept the high line but without the press it made it easy for Ipswich to get in behind.
Huh ? If they'd had their shooting boots on they could've also had at least 3 themselves in the first half ?

So tell us which players should've been altered or spoke to for us ?
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John in Louisiana wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 4:56 pm September second can't come quickly enough
Why the second John ?
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1964white wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 4:47 pm I hope you behaved yourself with the yokels ;-)
I celebrated Sini’s goal by putting my head on my wife’s shoulder & saying “thank f… for that”.
Mind you we still had time to mess it up. Funny game in some ways but entertaining though. Ipswich are a really decent side in fairness
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SG90 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 4:13 pm Hopefully Gnonto has seen now that staying would be a better option than going to a toxic club in turmoil
I think we can rule out Gnonto to Everton now - Btw looking forward to Everton playing my Donny Rovers this week

Wouldn't rule out other clubs coming in with a bid. Probably no Italian teams will be able to put up the price Leeds want. But onviously possibility of a mid table PL side coming in.
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Clitheroe White wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 4:13 pm A win is a win. Returning players made a difference. Piroe looks decent. Rutter getting some mojo. Shacks looking lovely. Gray good again. Amapadu solid.

Only black mark for me was dramah. For the record I’ve been one of the people calling for him to start. After today it’s dampened that view BUT he was playing out of position. Needs another chance. However suspect he’ll not react well to being subbed after 20 mins. More drama coming.
Not watched it yet. But it was a tough start for Drameh. First minutes back from injury. Playing out of position. Against a very good atacking team. There's no doubting his ability in this league over the past 2 seasons. But he will probably have to be patient if he's going to stick it out at Leeds. Not sure he's the patient type.
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The Subhuman wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 5:20 pm I do love this shut your eyes and shoot approach of yours, never any details or analysis just a broadside of cliché which invariably hits it's mark as that what blanket statements do

Keep up the good work
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YorkshireSquare wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 4:47 pm Still time for it all to fall apart before 1st September :lol:
Stop it right now :rant: :lol: :lol:
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I thought with just a few additions to our current squad that we could get promoted this season.

This sums it off against promotion candidates on a streak, against Daniel Farke s newly assembled team.

Our stand out players today included Sinisterra, Gnonto, Rodon on loan from the prem are great players in this league perhaps even too good for this league. Summerville who didn't play today is still highly rated by myself and other lufc fans would been a total nightmare against Ipswich had he played.

Totally pleased with what was witnessed today and Could be a major step into the right direction.
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Kennyb41 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 5:42 pm Huh ? If they'd had their shooting boots on they could've also had at least 3 themselves in the first half ?

So tell us which players should've been altered or spoke to for us ?
Wasn't able to catch the game live. Will wait for the full replay on LUTV.
Reading through all the analysis here.... I'm going to wait for Heidi's blog. She knows what she's talking about. :roflmao:

I'm delighted with:
A win
An away win
A win against the in-form team in the league
Rutter scoring
Gnonto scoring
Piroe scoring
Sini scoring
A team that already looks like it could become a real force this season.
A manager who is focused, humble and in charge.

As to to rest .... just details.
Lots to work on of course - but that's football.
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The Subhuman wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 4:26 pm It's cental mid that is the most important area to strengthen imo. If Willi, Cry, Sini and Rutter stay then we should be easily good enough at the 10... I'd want someone to spell young Archie...
Not watched it yet. But based on comments, seemed the weakness (and strength) was in playing 4 attackers. Sounds like we need an attacking mid to play the 10 role rather than an attacker/winger.

To that I think Summerville is better suited to back tracking than others who played today
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malcolmw wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 6:19 pm Wasn't able to catch the game live. Will wait for the full replay on LUTV.
Reading through all the analysis here.... I'm going to wait for Heidi's blog. She knows what she's talking about. :roflmao:

I'm delighted with:
A win
An away win
A win against the in-form team in the league
Rutter scoring
Gnonto scoring
Piroe scoring
Sini scoring
A team that already looks like it could become a real force this season.
A manager who is focused, humble and in charge.

As to to rest .... just details.
Lots to work on of course - but that's football.

:tup:

I agree with all of that, sums it up quite nicely.
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andrewjohnsmith wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 6:22 pm Not watched it yet. But based on comments, seemed the weakness (and strength) was in playing 4 attackers. Sounds like we need an attacking mid to play the 10 role rather than an attacker/winger.
That was the single most player missing today.

A box to boxer.
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The Subhuman wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 4:32 pm But Shack has had a decent amount of game time so far... Cody not playing for the 21's nor did he see the pitch much in pre season. Much easier to adapt if you have game time under your belt and you're confidence isn't low. Shack didn't really crack the Millwall team last season for whatever reason
I may be doing him a disservice as I didn't see the first half but to me Shackleton always looks like he's giving his all and is proud to wear the shirt. I don't see that from Cody. I have a feeling he won't be a Leeds player this time next week.
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SG90 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 4:46 pm Is James injured or leaving? Hopefully the latter 🙏
Really? Yes he was injured,

Why would you want him to leave? He was great last week. He'll be a great alternative weapon. And unlike the two who came back today, he's showed complete commitment to the cause.
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Ben Scooby lufc wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 6:19 pm I thought with just a few additions to our current squad that we could get promoted this season.

This sums it off against promotion candidates on a streak, against Daniel Farke s newly assembled team.

Our stand out players today included Sinisterra, Gnonto, Rodon on loan from the prem are great players in this league perhaps even too good for this league. Summerville who didn't play today is still highly rated by myself and other lufc fans would been a total nightmare against Ipswich had he played.

Totally pleased with what was witnessed today and Could be a major step into the right direction.
Yeah, they 'stood out' all too much in the right and wrong ways, especially 2 of em.
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1964white wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 4:59 pm Haven't seen Cody's error yet, so difficult for me to make a comment.

So was Drameh on for less than twenty minutes, was he injured or withdrawn.

I shall have to a word with Daniel with regard to not starting Shacks ;-)
Withdrawn at half-time and replaced by Shacks, who was MOTM for me.

The lazy back pass from Drameh led to their second goal.

That's nothing to do with skill, or being rusty, or out of position, it's just poor concentration.

Al of that defence lost concentration at times today, numerous times they were hoping to spring the off side trap and didn't play to the whistle.

Defence improved second half, but needs to improve a lot more. We desperately need a left back.
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Kennyb41 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 5:42 pm Huh ? If they'd had their shooting boots on they could've also had at least 3 themselves in the first half ?

So tell us which players should've been altered or spoke to for us ?
You seem to be taking this to heart.

Isn't criticising a manager tactically OK? Of this was Marsch would he not have been criticised for conceding 3 goals and 20 shots at goal?

Farke built his reputation as a high pressing attack minded possession coach.

Not a defensively sound sit back and counter coach.

His teams cant defend, he can't coach them to defend. His Norwich team controlled games so limited chances etc.

But if you read the forum defensively Farke is poor and today that showed.

He set us up not to press but to keep the high line and make the pitch narrow.

So Ipswich had plenty of time to pick long balls over the top and down the sides whilst there man advantage in midfield meant they had an extra runner who was difficult to track when they got wide and cut back.

We won because of our superior players today in attack (that's fine) .

But Farke should go back to what he has had success with.

Press high and keep the ball.

You wouldn't see Neil Warnock telling his team to play like Brighton.

Farke should stick to what he knows.
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