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Re: Daniel Farke
For me, we are a work in progress and results and performances like yesterday are gonna happen. We may be top 2 on paper (I'm not totally convinced), but paper does not take into consideration the horrendous mess this club was in following relegation. And I don't mean the standard aftermath of relegation, which Leicester and Southampton (supposedly our yardsticks) also faced, but the turmoil in the boardroom, the ludicrous loans issue, players downing tools, threatening legal action, all that s**t. Farke came in late and, up to this point, has handled everything that has been thrown at him, when no-one would have blamed him for saying "f**k this, I'm off". We started the season behind the curve and whilst we haven't been brilliant, I've certainly seen enough to believe we have the right man at the helm. Everybody gets calls wrong, be it starting 11 or subs, how they learn from those mistakes is key. And I suspect Farke will be his own harshest critic. It's a long hard season in the toughest league in Europe, nothing is decided after 9 or 10 games.
Maybe I have the benefit of being a fan for 45 years, most of which have been pretty barren but, if you want instant gratification in football, then you picked the wrong horse in Leeds Utd! If, however, we (board, manager, players and fans) keep the faith, then we will be alright. Mightn't be this season, and I'm fine with that, but imo we are on the right track. This season always felt like it was going to be a transitional one with a reset absolutely necessary and that may well impact on our promotion prospects. But I'd rather we get things right from top down than go back up woefully ill-equipped, as a club, to cope in the Prem as was the case last time.
Maybe I have the benefit of being a fan for 45 years, most of which have been pretty barren but, if you want instant gratification in football, then you picked the wrong horse in Leeds Utd! If, however, we (board, manager, players and fans) keep the faith, then we will be alright. Mightn't be this season, and I'm fine with that, but imo we are on the right track. This season always felt like it was going to be a transitional one with a reset absolutely necessary and that may well impact on our promotion prospects. But I'd rather we get things right from top down than go back up woefully ill-equipped, as a club, to cope in the Prem as was the case last time.
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Re: Daniel Farke
A team on paper doesn't win you the league, or guarantee you top 2, dont know how anyone can think that's true. This bad result is an ideal time for the Farke doubters/haters to just grab a stick to beat him with, they have been waiting for the likes of this result since the season started.
No one can argue it was a poor result and the poorest performance this season, but that was down to so many players having an of day, even Pep would have struggled to get anything from that team performance. I'm not saying Farke was totally faultless, for me he should have played Rodon but i doubt even Rodon would have made any difference when all around him played the way they did. You can get by if 2 or 3 players have an off day, when 8 or 9 of them have an off day your stuffed, no matter what manager is in charge.
We need a positive reaction on Wednesday night, Farke's team selection is going to be interesting.
No one can argue it was a poor result and the poorest performance this season, but that was down to so many players having an of day, even Pep would have struggled to get anything from that team performance. I'm not saying Farke was totally faultless, for me he should have played Rodon but i doubt even Rodon would have made any difference when all around him played the way they did. You can get by if 2 or 3 players have an off day, when 8 or 9 of them have an off day your stuffed, no matter what manager is in charge.
We need a positive reaction on Wednesday night, Farke's team selection is going to be interesting.
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Re: Daniel Farke post Southampton
I disagreed with Farke calling him out after the second yellow1964white wrote: ↑Sat Sep 30, 2023 7:08 pm Rodon was yellow carded for a non-foul given from an inept referee, yes his second yellow card was reckless, but it's that justification for more punishment from Farke?
"Sorry Joe, you made one poor challenge, so you are dropped for today's game, even it means we sacrifice points"
My read is that he made the easy choice. We'd debated all week over whether he'd send Cooper to the bench with Rodon coming back. I think he was afraid to do that. The easier choice was to say he left Rodon out so he could think about his "bad decisions" a little longer.
That's my read. But I completely disagree with it. Rodon and Strujik have been terrific together.
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Re: Daniel Farke
Nothing overly complicated but Farke didn't seem to know what to do.
Hopefully he finds a solution because it made us look very ordinary.
And also raises the Piroe dilemma again, if you are going to play him as a 10 you must dominate the ball because getting passed around in midfield could be quite easy especially if the press is half-hearted.
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Daniel Farke pre QPR
Farke's here - key factors in selection?
To be successful, that's they key factor. Want to win the game. Take everything into account. Performances in the last games, Saturday too, training, also once you have a busy schedule, three games in seven days, physical data on recovery, who is fresh and ready to go. Individual experience of a coach is important and their view on the players.
Good choice to have a successful squad on the pitch.
Byram
We will see. This turnaround is easier than the last. Three days and 24 hours more than last time. Early kick-off on Saturday. Much easier than last turnaround. More concerned about the next turnaround Weds then Sat
Thoughts on the reaction to Saturday?
I will never get used to losing games. Next day I don't want to get up or speak about football. I will still want to kill someone the next day.
Even after our good run, it was still painful. I want my squad to feel that disappointment. No replacement for the winning feeling. All our fans and our club feel the same pain. In analysing the game, once you have seltp, you can calm down and stay objective. Players are not robots.
It's the Championship. After several weeks of good results and performances, to would have been nice to end September without conceding. Tough to accept, but we were away from our best performance, all the players.
Feelings more intense here?
Np. On the training pitch or with my family I want to win. This club is emotional. It's great. Why we love football. Have to have this feeling.
Don't want to take this away. What we are about as a club. After 24 hours of feeling sorry for ourselves we are refocused and ready
Rodon and Anthony
Really happy with both because it's never easy to come into a new group. Hard for Jaidon to come in late. Settled in now and really well. Played the first games without being prepared. Done fantastically well. Few clean sheets with Joe.
More to come from Rodon. The red card, he has to handle the own goal at Ipswich. He can improve. I am totally convinced of his potential as a player, his quality as a player. THis is why I was so greedy to bring him in because he makes us better as a group.
Pleased with Jaidon. Looked sharp. Good goal. Important to have depth and options.
Colback back for QPR
Good player. They have a better squad than their position shows. Difficult start. Not in the best position, but their squad is really good. Pretty experienced players and coaches. Fantastic with his former clubs. Will be good in the long term. Not in the best position, but last three away games they have only conceded once.
We will have to be patient and relentless to get chances. What is crucial is being effective when we can finish. Solid side that does not allow many chances.
Wednesday game help as prep?
Yes, a little because in the shape and setup I would say ti's quite similar. Details are different. QPR more of a threat on the counter. Sheffield did not get one chance. I expect we need to be aware of counters. Good options up front. Technical players in midfield. We will need to be more aware.
Five men at the back, we should use the Sheffield game to speak about things.
Balance between urgency and patience to score first?
It's the key to stay balanced and prepare our offensive actions. Produce one loss after another because you are too greedy you get frustrated and concede counters. Make them shift and work and run. Take our chance in the second half last time at ER. Opened them up after investing so much in the first 60. Scored three late on. Would like to lead earlier and make our life more simple. Need our fans to be patient and help us. Exhaust the opponent
Focused on the details in such a small gap?
Different to Southampton because they had four straight losses before Saturday. We were flying before Saturday. One day not at your best, but draw a line under it pretty quick. More the other way around. You can't wait to get back on the pitch and show a good reaction. Players sere self-critical after Saturday.
Settled GK and CBs - old thinking or valid?
I do not believe in any 11 changes. You need a core group. We talk too much about rotation and splitting the workload. No better feeling as a player than playing every game. No better feeling than being in games. Healthy for completion in the squad to keep players sharp and fresh if you have options. One, two or three changes is sometimes healthy.
Sometimes older players, or players with no pre-season like Rodon or injury record like Byram, needs to be taken into account
Where does Cooper sit in his ability to play regularly?
Unbelievably important. Cub captain, he did not win this in the lottery. f I speak about a player and human being who loves this club, he has white blood in his veins. First goal he could have done better, but three or four mistakes eld to this goal. His performances so far, brilliant pre-season. On the pitch in pre-season, we did not concede one goal. Sacrificed his body to score a big goal against Cardiff. Inured and we played without him. Worked hard on rehab and he came into the second last game after being out for so long and helped us keep a clean sheet.
Does not mean he will play every minute, but he will be a key player for us.
Dallas
Setback in training, but he will return to team training after rehab. A little while for him, as we always said.
To be successful, that's they key factor. Want to win the game. Take everything into account. Performances in the last games, Saturday too, training, also once you have a busy schedule, three games in seven days, physical data on recovery, who is fresh and ready to go. Individual experience of a coach is important and their view on the players.
Good choice to have a successful squad on the pitch.
Byram
We will see. This turnaround is easier than the last. Three days and 24 hours more than last time. Early kick-off on Saturday. Much easier than last turnaround. More concerned about the next turnaround Weds then Sat
Thoughts on the reaction to Saturday?
I will never get used to losing games. Next day I don't want to get up or speak about football. I will still want to kill someone the next day.
Even after our good run, it was still painful. I want my squad to feel that disappointment. No replacement for the winning feeling. All our fans and our club feel the same pain. In analysing the game, once you have seltp, you can calm down and stay objective. Players are not robots.
It's the Championship. After several weeks of good results and performances, to would have been nice to end September without conceding. Tough to accept, but we were away from our best performance, all the players.
Feelings more intense here?
Np. On the training pitch or with my family I want to win. This club is emotional. It's great. Why we love football. Have to have this feeling.
Don't want to take this away. What we are about as a club. After 24 hours of feeling sorry for ourselves we are refocused and ready
Rodon and Anthony
Really happy with both because it's never easy to come into a new group. Hard for Jaidon to come in late. Settled in now and really well. Played the first games without being prepared. Done fantastically well. Few clean sheets with Joe.
More to come from Rodon. The red card, he has to handle the own goal at Ipswich. He can improve. I am totally convinced of his potential as a player, his quality as a player. THis is why I was so greedy to bring him in because he makes us better as a group.
Pleased with Jaidon. Looked sharp. Good goal. Important to have depth and options.
Colback back for QPR
Good player. They have a better squad than their position shows. Difficult start. Not in the best position, but their squad is really good. Pretty experienced players and coaches. Fantastic with his former clubs. Will be good in the long term. Not in the best position, but last three away games they have only conceded once.
We will have to be patient and relentless to get chances. What is crucial is being effective when we can finish. Solid side that does not allow many chances.
Wednesday game help as prep?
Yes, a little because in the shape and setup I would say ti's quite similar. Details are different. QPR more of a threat on the counter. Sheffield did not get one chance. I expect we need to be aware of counters. Good options up front. Technical players in midfield. We will need to be more aware.
Five men at the back, we should use the Sheffield game to speak about things.
Balance between urgency and patience to score first?
It's the key to stay balanced and prepare our offensive actions. Produce one loss after another because you are too greedy you get frustrated and concede counters. Make them shift and work and run. Take our chance in the second half last time at ER. Opened them up after investing so much in the first 60. Scored three late on. Would like to lead earlier and make our life more simple. Need our fans to be patient and help us. Exhaust the opponent
Focused on the details in such a small gap?
Different to Southampton because they had four straight losses before Saturday. We were flying before Saturday. One day not at your best, but draw a line under it pretty quick. More the other way around. You can't wait to get back on the pitch and show a good reaction. Players sere self-critical after Saturday.
Settled GK and CBs - old thinking or valid?
I do not believe in any 11 changes. You need a core group. We talk too much about rotation and splitting the workload. No better feeling as a player than playing every game. No better feeling than being in games. Healthy for completion in the squad to keep players sharp and fresh if you have options. One, two or three changes is sometimes healthy.
Sometimes older players, or players with no pre-season like Rodon or injury record like Byram, needs to be taken into account
Where does Cooper sit in his ability to play regularly?
Unbelievably important. Cub captain, he did not win this in the lottery. f I speak about a player and human being who loves this club, he has white blood in his veins. First goal he could have done better, but three or four mistakes eld to this goal. His performances so far, brilliant pre-season. On the pitch in pre-season, we did not concede one goal. Sacrificed his body to score a big goal against Cardiff. Inured and we played without him. Worked hard on rehab and he came into the second last game after being out for so long and helped us keep a clean sheet.
Does not mean he will play every minute, but he will be a key player for us.
Dallas
Setback in training, but he will return to team training after rehab. A little while for him, as we always said.
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Re: Daniel Farke pre QPR
Cooper, kinda did win the captaincy in the lottery ...
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Re: Daniel Farke pre QPR
Wasn't it a player vote?The Subhuman wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2023 1:17 pm Cooper, kinda did win the captaincy in the lottery ...
Which is a rather ludicrous way to pick a Captain when you think about it.
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Re: Daniel Farke pre QPR
Likes reminding Rodon of his errors
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Re: Daniel Farke pre QPR
Farke needs to sort out the captaincy if it's affecting team selection. Rodon & Ampadu are automatic imo. You can't say the same about Ayling or Coops due to the fact they can't play 3 times a week & their age, energy/fitness levels
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Re: Daniel Farke pre QPR
Maybe taken out of context because I don’t know the exact question he was asked but it’s getting boring tbh. OG was unlucky as was his sending off. Just let it go DF.
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Re: Daniel Farke pre QPR
If he doesn't let it go, this could become another scenario similar to Pontus & Pablo getting on the wrong side of Bielsa & we didn't see much of Hernandez after that & Jansson was totally bombed out, two quality players gone!
I'd be p*ssed off if I was Joe, on the hand, Coops must think all his Christmas's have come at once.
We'll know come 6.45pm tomorrow evening .
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Re: Daniel Farke pre QPR
I don't think there needs to be a focus on the Rodon comment. Farke has said himself that he will praise but not let players get ahead of themselves. Feels like a non-issue to me.
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Re: Daniel Farke pre QPR
I would say he is under a little bit of pressure to get it right in the next game, his team selection will be very interesting. A lot of fans will be holding their breath until its announced, lol
I hope he does get things back on track, as i think he will prove to a good manager for us.
I hope he does get things back on track, as i think he will prove to a good manager for us.
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Re: Daniel Farke pre QPR
If it’s a non issue then don’t mention it maybe.
Farke I mean not you.
Also he says he has to handle the own goal. Then it would be a penalty. Just kidding
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Re: Daniel Farke pre QPR
Why can't Leeds fans have a smooth ride for once?GreennWhite wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2023 3:23 pm I would say he is under a little bit of pressure to get it right in the next game, his team selection will be very interesting. A lot of fans will be holding their breath until its announced, lol
I hope he does get things back on track, as i think he will prove to a good manager for us.
The majority of our fan base will be anxious about team selection over the next 24 hours, it shouldn't be the case!
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Re: Daniel Farke pre QPR
Just going to wait and see what the team is.
Farke has made some strange and contradicting comments in the last few days and some poor tactical choices.
So QPR is big for him personally and us as well.
We need 2 wins from 2 to be on track for automatic
If we don't get those wins and it's 3 wins from 10 that is not good enough
Farke has made some strange and contradicting comments in the last few days and some poor tactical choices.
So QPR is big for him personally and us as well.
We need 2 wins from 2 to be on track for automatic
If we don't get those wins and it's 3 wins from 10 that is not good enough
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Re: Daniel Farke pre QPR
Not sure about our record v QPR but BC was a nailed on 3 pts every time. That’s was under Bielsa though in fairness.
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Re: Daniel Farke pre QPR
Which comes first... the chicken or the egg?
Or to put another way, does the pundit Phil Hay get his views from the fans, or do the fans form their ideas from Phil Hay?
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Re: Daniel Farke pre QPR
Ah for simpler days when Bielsa announced his team beforehand and cut out the needless speculationGreennWhite wrote:I would say he is under a little bit of pressure to get it right in the next game, his team selection will be very interesting. A lot of fans will be holding their breath until its announced, lol
I hope he does get things back on track, as i think he will prove to a good manager for us.


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