Sheffield Wednesday v Leeds United - Post Match Chat

[1964white]

I do not think Cooper would have been a bad shout personally. The game would have in all likelihood followed a different pattern with Amps in midfield. But the Rodon Ampadu partnership is a quality pairing and it would take a brave manager to dispense with it.

Some of our fans would change it, a crazy notion when you consider we have conceded 3 goals in 14 championship games in 2024.

Ampadu is now making more long passes, playing in the CB position too.

[1964white]

I'd imagine Farke would end up looking like that if he told Rodon that he was resting him.

[Irish Ian]

This begrudging our in form striker is bordering on insanity.

We are on the best run we could have ever imagined and some want him dropped to play a prospect.

Do that and watch him get bullied week in and week out.

Do you really want to risk that? Seeing what is at stake?

Also I thought the pitch was appaling last night and the uneven bounce caused many problems, but it actually made Bamfords finish even better as the ball reared up higher than expected, great finishing and great movement to lose his marker and be in the right place at the right time.

[1964white]

It would also be nice to have an explanation and a reason as to why the mods view this new format of prematch match and postmatch desirable.

Because it has created more content, Rab.

Match-day threads used to fade very quickly in the past.

The forum has been heaving of late, we are always looking for ideas of improving the footfall.

Yes there has been hiccups, particularly the timing of the change-over, Weasel made a good point & I'll bear this problem in mind for future games.

[1964white]

Sort of reminds me of some one.
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That Berardi photo is like a replica of Rodon

[1964white]

I took one for the team Sid, don't you want to pat me on the back ? I was gonna go 0-2 Bamford, but my superstitious twat of a mind said "fck off you numb twat, you know what always happens when you get confident in Leeds, so try some reverse psychology and say we'll draw the fcker"

So at least i got PB right huh to reap me a point in your table that gets updated annually !

Taking one for the team is a good thing, Kenny boy.

[WestgateRun]

I am pleased to see Bamford back scoring again. He was out a long time with a persistent injury that just would not mend.
More tap ins please, Patrick!

[1964white]

What he usually does

I'm not a fan. You need to put the ball on a plate for him in the 6 yard box for him to maybe hit the target. He's slower than me, and generally his first touch and passing is tragic. Jospeh is already head and shoulders above him imo and should be starting.

I appreciate that hes having, by his standards, a big purple patch lately, but no way we should be taking him back up to the EPL, we need much better than that, ditto Cooper, Firpo Shackleton, Les Mes, and possibly Kamara and James. As we found out very recently, at EPL level any weaknesses are very quickly exposed and taken advantage of.

But thankfully Farke ain't so daft, on a number of occasions when he's been asked about players like James and Bamford, he's stated they are good and able to make an impact: Ät this level. So I hope continues to follow that train of thought and not get sucked into our traditional Sentimental United approach

Indeed James, we need a different No.9 when we are promoted to the Premier League.

Joseph is our future, Farke is giving Mateo minutes & he is gaining the experience of playing competitive football, which is great for the young lad, I suspect he is over the moon being so close to the first-team.

I believe Joseph is better option than Piroe as our second No.9 right now.

[The Subhuman]

Thought the same. Not sure if this is the case, but I think it may also be the nerves for watchers until that first goal is scored--hard for some to fully relax and take in the work away from the ball until the fan's jitters subside.

No, he was poor first half.

[1964white]

Credit where credit is due--DF on Amps and Rodon's performance last night:

"Yes, they deserve to be more in the spotlight. They were outstanding today. We had one or two weaknesses in the positioning in front of them or next to them, but they won each and every crucial duel.”

“They were always switched on, each and every cross, against the ball and also in possession, how they initiated and when they started our attacks also, they nearly found always the perfect moment. Apart from one or two passes perhaps, but in addition to that, also, the leadership, the soft skills, the maturity.”

“This (leadership), for me, [is] outstanding, especially for two players who were, let's be honest, not there with much football in the last years. To show this leadership, for such a big club like Leeds United, is quite impressive and they deserve today all the praise and all the spotlight."

“I'm pretty, pretty happy with them.”

Source: https://www.leeds-live.co.uk/sport/leed ... e-28786228

Farke spot on again.

Our best two players on the park by a country mile, imo!

When we discussed the captaincy issue earlier in the season, my first choice was Ampadu, then Rodon, it's now coming to fruition, both leaders with not a soft bone in their bodies.

[The Subhuman]

Two I thought....the one where Amps cleared the line in the second half

Think it was three...

[Kennyb41]

This begrudging our in form striker is bordering on insanity.

We are on the best run we could have ever imagined and some want him dropped to play a prospect.

Do that and watch him get bullied week in and week out.

Do you really want to risk that? Seeing what is at stake?

Also I thought the pitch was appaling last night and the uneven bounce caused many problems, but it actually made Bamfords finish even better as the ball reared up higher than expected, great finishing and great movement to lose his marker and be in the right place at the right time.

Some loonies are also suggesting putting Piroe in front of him.

Amazing football innit, our most expensive signing to date for DF, is the one warming the bench and struggling to find his place in the team, when £4/5/6m players are doing the business.

Just goes to show, no matter how some knownowts dress it up, things don't always work out as planned with players.

But lets find some stats to suit our narrative eh

[White Riot]

It was a welcome result and Amps and Rodon deserve all the plaudits. Gnonto played well and there were nice pieces of play by others who I thought were generally a mixed bag.

There is no doubt DF knows what it takes to get out of this league and he has made the signings necessary to do so, Kamara, Gruev are two classic examples. I have doubts they are going to be good enough in the prem. Although as it is Gruev’s first season in English football there may be adjustment factors to consider.

For me - Bannon was the best central midfield player on the pitch during that game. He is nearly 40 and 2ft 3 inches. This is not taking anything away from the Wendies they were at home and in a dogfight to stay up, so their willingness to battle came as no surprise.

When the game was frenetic the lack of composure by Kamara and Gruev on the ball was very evident. Ampadu led the way in terms of composure at the back. Firpo pretty much hoofed it anywhere under the slightest pressure during that first half. His cross for the goal was excellent. It was clearly worth about 5 points on a half time scorecard.

However, when we started to get on top you saw players come out of their shell and start to play. To be premiership level you need to be brave enough to have some composure when things are not going so well. This is why we struggled first half - too many players treated the ball like a ticking bomb. Teams get punished severely for that kind football in the Prem and chase shadows for 90 minutes.

The test for Farke if we go up is whether he can pick a Prem level signing with the same adeptness he has in identifying the necessary quality needed to challenge for promotion. Ampadu is one signing he has been spot on about. Rodon will be another if all the pieces fall into place.

Good post DDB

It's so far been proven that Farke is an excellent appointment, who can drive the club forward at the playing level.

There are still doubts about his credentials at EPL level, but our focus this season had to be purely getting promotion and we're right on track.

I'm sure that Farke has learned from his two previous promotions with Norwich. I don't know what happened with Norwich in terms of recruitment when they got to the EPL, but I'll guess that he wouldn't be afforded the budget Leeds will give him.

Should we get promoted there is a heck of a lot of work to do in the summer. All the players that we loaned out need cleared out permanently. We have quite a number of players in our first team squad who are not good enough for the Prem and will also need to be jettisoned. The signs from Farke are that he has no problems with doing what needs to be done for our progression, and that he's been given a lot of freedom to do his job.

He's recruited well at this level and succeeded. From his past experience at EPL level I'm sure he has a much better idea of what's required to progress, and we as a club and fanbase should also have wised up from our jaunt in the EPL.

All signs point to us being in very good hands with Daniel. He arrived when our club was in complete disarray, and was mentally scarred from two seasons of chastening beatings and mistakes. But he's pulled things around in minus time and made us into a spirited, united and determined competitor. So, I really don't think that we could be in better hands when it comes to transitioning the club to the next level.

But as you say, the proof of the pudding will be in the eating.

[1964white]

This begrudging our in form striker is bordering on insanity.

We are on the best run we could have ever imagined and some want him dropped to play a prospect.

Do that and watch him get bullied week in and week out.

Do you really want to risk that? Seeing what is at stake?

Also I thought the pitch was appaling last night and the uneven bounce caused many problems, but it actually made Bamfords finish even better as the ball reared up higher than expected, great finishing and great movement to lose his marker and be in the right place at the right time.

These knee-jerk reactions don't make sense, Ian.

Bamford has won us four points vs Huddersfield & the Owls by making a timely run into the six yard box as you'd expect from a top poacher.

8 goals in 11 games......why gamble at this stage of the season?

[Kennyb41]

Taking one for the team is a good thing, Kenny boy.

Not up the arse those Sid, now just hold on a mo chap.

[Kennyb41]

Indeed James, we need a different No.9 when we are promoted to the Premier League.

Joseph is our future, Farke is giving Mateo minutes & he is gaining the experience of playing competitive football, which is great for the young lad, I suspect he is over the moon being so close to the first-team.

I believe Joseph is better option than Piroe as our second No.9 right now.

PB is ok for another year, and should be given a contract so, then the brittle fcker might just dance a bit more.

[1964white]

Think it was three...

I'll have a re-watch if LUTV get their act together.

[The Subhuman]

I'll have a re-watch if LUTV get their act together.

Three shots on target, that won't include blocks or post or wide of the goal. The great save, the fumble save and I think a fairly easy save

[The Subhuman]

These knee-jerk reactions don't make sense, Ian.

Bamford has won us four points vs Huddersfield & the Owls by making a timely run into the six yard box as you'd expect from a top poacher.

8 goals in 11 games......why gamble at this stage of the season?

I don't do knee jerk.... He was poor first half, including a half hearted challenge for the chance that Meslier saved. Much better second half, he made my 6 and I think I gave him an 8, so no bias at all from me but he he was definitely poor first half

I've posted before I'll always score flair over defence, and Gnonto's passing was another level at times

[Carrick Dave]

I don't do knee jerk.... He was poor first half, including a half hearted challenge for the chance that Meslier saved. Much better second half, he made my 6 and I think I gave him an 8, so no bias at all from me but he he was definitely poor first half

I've posted before I'll always score flair over defence, and Gnonto's passing was another level at times

The through ball for Archie that I got the wrong way round during the game was a peach.