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The Subhuman wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2024 10:25 am You’d expect your better players to see more of the ball
I agree...

But the proportion was way out....
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hector wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2024 8:26 am What puzzles me is... Why did we not attempt to attack down the right?
Why was everything through Summerville?
It's as though no one wanted to give Dan James a chance to attack
Our fans made sarcastic cheers, when we eventually passed the ball to James & Gray.

Just like the first-half, Bamford was running across the front line, & not one of our players had the desire or vision to find him, they were more content to play tippy-tappy football on the halfway line or at the back.
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The Subhuman wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2024 10:25 am You’d expect your better players to see more of the ball
Not when they are doubly or even three men on them, all very predictable.
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Jaydog wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2024 9:03 am That wasn’t bad for the ticker. My heart didn’t get above bored witless. The dullest game of football I’ve ever seen. I bet Ipswich isn’t 0-0 tonight. Nil nil my arse.
I was so bored after the first 45 minutes, my anxiety levels were down to nil as the writing was on the wall.
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Jaydog wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2024 10:20 pm Was Farke stoned? Nice one. That’s one way to get through a boring game. I can see him, Jimmy & Piroe on the weed after a game. The Dutch love a spliff.
Farke complained about only three minutes added-on time, what the 80+ minutes he wasted with his boring tactics & no urgency with change things when required.
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1964white wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2024 11:12 am Farke complained about only three minutes added-on time, what the 80+ minutes he wasted with his boring tactics & no urgency with change things when required.
I’m not sure if there should’ve been more than 3 tbh.
Didn’t notice a huge amount of time wasting and anyway 3 hours of added on we still wouldn’t have scored.
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This one is on Farke 100%... The same team that failed against Coventry played without any pace or conviction. Rutter looks like he has not recovered from his operation, Bamford is not performing and never looked like scoring. Meanwhile hungry players warming the bench,desperately wanting game time are given minutes to change the course of the fixture... We have Blackburn on Saturday and they imo are a much better side than Sunderland. If Farke sticks with same side, we are going to be trouble.
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And we played into the fourth minute
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hector wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2024 10:41 am I agree...

But the proportion was way out....
James saw a lot of the ball, just didn’t do much with it
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VAR would have been kind to us this season.
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It feels to me like the starting 11 are playing like they’ve got nothing left to prove. Because Farke has cemented them in no matter what now.

I’d be inclined to totally shake things up starting all the subs last night and a couple of the aspiring youth players who are on the peripherals.

( yes i know this won’t happen. But we’ve totally stagnated and it’s like watching the titanic slowly dip below the waves in real time now )
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Jaydog wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2024 11:17 am I’m not sure if there should’ve been more than 3 tbh.
Didn’t notice a huge amount of time wasting and anyway 3 hours of added on we still wouldn’t have scored.
7 substitutions is 3 minutes 30 seconds, their goalie wasted three minutes & there were other times when play was stopped plus the referee had to speak to the players at times.

As you say, we wouldn't have scored by the time I arrived home at midnight.
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Morpheus wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2024 11:21 am It feels to me like the starting 11 are playing like they’ve got nothing left to prove. Because Farke has cemented them in no matter what now.

I’d be inclined to totally shake things up starting all the subs last night and a couple of the aspiring youth players who are on the peripherals.

( yes i know this won’t happen. But we’ve totally stagnated and it’s like watching the titanic slowly dip below the waves in real time now )
Changes should have happened at half-time, 60 minutes at the latest.
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Jaydog wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2024 10:08 am You selected 0-0 in the comp. The curse is upon you 😂
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1964white wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2024 11:26 am 7 substitutions is 3 minutes 30 seconds, their goalie wasted three minutes & there were other times when play was stopped plus the referee had to speak to the players at times.

As you say, we wouldn't have scored by the time I arrived home at midnight.
Fair enough. I was asleep for most of the second half. Either that or looking at porn. No sorry I mean recipes.
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Musicman1965 wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2024 11:18 am This one is on Farke 100%... The same team that failed against Coventry played without any pace or conviction. Rutter looks like he has not recovered from his operation, Bamford is not performing and never looked like scoring. Meanwhile hungry players warming the bench,desperately wanting game time are given minutes to change the course of the fixture... We have Blackburn on Saturday and they imo are a much better side than Sunderland. If Farke sticks with same side, we are going to be trouble.
Rovers put five past Sunderland.

No win on Saturday, and play-offs are definitely on the cards, by that time physically & mentally we'll be totally shot.
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The ref needs some stick, 2 clear penalties then adds on a miserly 3 mins.
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We are so limited in an attacking sense.

When was the time we scored from a corner or a free-kick?

We must have on average 15 set-pieces a game but without an end result.
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hector wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2024 8:26 am What puzzles me is... Why did we not attempt to attack down the right?
Why was everything through Summerville?
It's as though no one wanted to give Dan James a chance to attack
Its been like that all season dear Hecky.

No team bar Rotherham has focused passing down 1 side more in the league.

Our tactic is pass it to Summerville or Rutter (who more often than not is fairly near Summerville)
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Average time of Substitutions last 4 games.

77 minutes
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