Leeds Utd v Blackburn Rovers Match Thread

[GreennWhite]

Business end of the season and things aren't going well. What do you expect. I'd rather be playing in the premier league than the championship.it was in our own hands a few times and we managed to screw it up. So it isn't any wonder why I'm moaning and groaning

It's only a game of football, there are more important things in life.

[CUSSIE01]

We are the straw men
we are the hollow men
This is the way the world ends
Not with a bang but a whipper.

We seem to have a host of prophets on here that are making gloom ladened predictions. There is a general malaise hovering in the air, the stink of defeat.

Yet Daniel Farke has said that this team have had the best season for results in the clubs history.

How is it possible to get better than the best season ever?

“ Gloom laden predictions, General malaise, Stink of defeat “ Think that’s a tad harsh Sean, everyone on here is a Leeds United supporter & therefore entitled to an opinion. Some people rightly or wrongly might take offence at being told they don’t understand aspects of the game basically because they’re too thick. Unless you haven’t watched the last 4/5 games it’s obvious the slow play, rigid team selection & late substitutions are all reasons for the increased nervousness on here and are rightly being voiced or what is the point in having a forum.

[hector]

“ Gloom laden predictions, General malaise, Stink of defeat “ Think that’s a tad harsh Sean, everyone on here is a Leeds United supporter & therefore entitled to an opinion. Some people rightly or wrongly might take offence at being told they don’t understand aspects of the game basically because they’re too thick. Unless you haven’t watched the last 4/5 games it’s obvious the slow play, rigid team selection & late substitutions are all reasons for the increased nervousness on here and are rightly being voiced or what is the point in having a forum.

.You make a good point.... Perhaps I should ban everyone

[Ellandback1]

.You make a good point.... Perhaps I should ban everyone

Even me?

[CUSSIE01]

Even me?

Especially you

[Ellandback1]

Especially you

As long as I'm not left out...

[Sean_Nile]

“ Gloom laden predictions, General malaise, Stink of defeat “ Think that’s a tad harsh Sean, everyone on here is a Leeds United supporter & therefore entitled to an opinion. Some people rightly or wrongly might take offence at being told they don’t understand aspects of the game basically because they’re too thick. Unless you haven’t watched the last 4/5 games it’s obvious the slow play, rigid team selection & late substitutions are all reasons for the increased nervousness on here and are rightly being voiced or what is the point in having a forum.

Fear is a virus that is infectious. It affects your spirit. How many people on here express the idea that they get depressed when the results don't go our way... it seems their mental well being is dependent on positive results for us and negative results for others.

It is apparent that if we suffer a loss then fans get reved up to make an analysis of what went wrong, making proposals of what could have been done different... change of players, change of system, time of substitutions, those are the most common.

If is not enough that one person makes these obvious observations, but there is a general pile on expressing the same idea ad nauseum, and it does become a depressing read. And the conversation descends into Mass Formation Hysteria which is not good for anyone.

I can well imagine the gnashing of teeth if Lester beat the Pilgrims tonight... And the joy if they loose.

But hey that is what fans are like.

[pjm2019]

As Bob Dylan used to see don't criticize what you don't understand.

In 2019 rules changed so that Defenders could receive the ball within the 18 Yard Box. Beforehand goal kicks had to be taken so that you had to be outside the 18-yard box to receive the ball which meant that more often than not you lost control of the ball.

When short passes are made to the center backs within the 18-yard Box this allows the full backs to move upfield into a more attacking position.

The goalkeepers "studs on the ball" tactics usually means that he's looking for movement ahead of him to make a pass, and if nothing is on he will play the ball to one of the center backs. The aim is to draw the opposing players out of position.

It works well for Pep and City, but is perhaps too nuanced for those that prefer kick and rush blood and thunder tactics.

Are you for real ?

[Cjay]

As Bob Dylan used to see don't criticize what you don't understand.

In 2019 rules changed so that Defenders could receive the ball within the 18 Yard Box. Beforehand goal kicks had to be taken so that you had to be outside the 18-yard box to receive the ball which meant that more often than not you lost control of the ball.

When short passes are made to the center backs within the 18-yard Box this allows the full backs to move upfield into a more attacking position.

The goalkeepers "studs on the ball" tactics usually means that he's looking for movement ahead of him to make a pass, and if nothing is on he will play the ball to one of the center backs. The aim is to draw the opposing players out of position.

It works well for Pep and City, but is perhaps too nuanced for those that prefer kick and rush blood and thunder tactics.

I sincerely hope you aren't comparing the slow style DF has had us playing with the one Pep uses?

The two aren't comparable

[Sean_Nile]

Are you for real ?

Yes

[Sean_Nile]

I sincerely hope you aren't comparing the slow style DF has had us playing with the one Pep uses?

The two aren't comparable

What I am saying since rule change regarding goal kicks, you have began to see more of the short passes within the 18 yard box as opposed to long goal kicks.

When Meslier tries to kick it long you get people complaining about his distribution, and when he plays it short he is accused of diĺly dallying. Damned if he does damned if he don't

[Cjay]

What I am saying since rule change regarding goal kicks, you have began to see more of the short passes within the 18 yard box as opposed to long goal kicks.

When Meslier tries to kick it long you get people complaining about his distribution, and when he plays it short he is accused of diĺly dallying. Damned if he does damned if he don't

I don't think anyone is complaining about playing out from the back.

It's the lack of speed that is the complaint.

It's slow, lacks any real punch or bravery and is easy to defend against.

Compare it to Bielsa or Klopp or Pep himself.

Those teams know when to move the ball at speed with sharp short passing or penetrative longer passes

We do neither.

That's the issue not the playing out from the back thing.

We prioritise possession for the sake of it.

[Phild]

When we were blowing sides away were we still agonizingly slow with our build up like we are now ?
Seems that long ago now
Sides do not need to consider the high press against us as they can start pressing when we eventually cross the half way line
This way even the mediocre sides are creating enough chances

[Scoobychief]

Is your lovely little pooch as annoyed as you Scooby?

He's past away he was a rescue dog, previous owners had knocked it about and knocked all his teeth out (bastards) but yeah he'll allways be with us

[Kennyb41]

I’ll see what I can do Kenny

Good man, get em goin BB!

All 35,000

[BlackHillsPaul]

This match kicks off at 4:30am Arizona time. So I'll be watching on demand when I wake up. But I like our chances in this one. I predict a 3-0 win for LUFC. We can still WIN the league. Which would be an amazing accomplishment!! MOT!!!

[Kennyb41]

I don't think anyone is complaining about playing out from the back.

It's the lack of speed that is the complaint.

It's slow, lacks any real punch or bravery and is easy to defend against.

Compare it to Bielsa or Klopp or Pep himself.

Those teams know when to move the ball at speed with sharp short passing or penetrative longer passes

We do neither.

That's the issue not the playing out from the back thing.

We prioritise possession for the sake of it.

DF hasn't had the time or £gazillions Pep and Klopp have trying to perfect it, and even they couldn't do it with bang average players, and players have to be able to adapt to differing games and styles of play, they themselves are hard to come by, as most players have just the one game in them, their natural one, ask them to do anything different and they're flummoxed and have to think too hard, which in turn ruins their overall game.

On the other hand, yes, you are correct mentioning Bert, he could do it with a wider range of bang average players, and a lesser budget.

And yes there are comparables in what DF is trying to do like Pep, Klopp and Bert, can you not see it ?

[Scoobychief]

We have been give now multiple chances from Leicester and Ipswich with 4 games to go it's still not guaranteed because we're still third so no less than 4 wins from our games will do it's that simple and we just have to hope 1 of them will draw or screw up.

[Clitheroe White]

We have been give now multiple chances from Leicester and Ipswich with 4 games to go it's still not guaranteed because we're still third so no less than 4 wins from our games will do it's that simple and we just have to hope 1 of them will draw or screw up.

I suspect we will all screw up at least once. It’s a question of who screws up the least.

[WestgateRun]

Three points in the early kick-off, and the pressure goes right back onto the other misfiring teams.