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Good Morning. It's Monday 30th December, and here are the latest headlines from Elland Road...


Whites on course for 98 points after Ram raid

Leeds United concluded the year on a high note with victory over a determined Derby County side, igniting a renewed sense of anticipation and optimism going into 2025. Brendan Aaronson's decisive 79th-minute goal, his seventh of the campaign, ensured the Whites secured top spot, and puts them on track to achieve a projected 98 points tally come May.

After keeping Leeds at bay during the opening half, Derby emerged with a sense of vigour and confidence. Only three weeks ago (after the two sides had met), Rams Manager Paul Warne had described his squad as a "League One team with a bit of sugar on top", but roared on by their biggest gate of the season, the hosts gave it their all.

Although a far more open second half, the Leeds defence held firm. Rams shot-stopper Zetterstrom denied efforts from Aaronson and Ramazani, whilst at the other end Meslier pulled off a good save from Nelson. With 20 minutes left on the clock, Farke (finally) made the changes every Leeds fan had been screaming for, and it completely changed the game.

Within minutes of coming on, James was denied by the outstretched legs of Zetterstrom after a peach of a cross from Solomon; but was powerless to deny Aaronson minutes later, after a well constructed opening involving Byram and Solomon, Piroe delivered a perfectly weighted ball for Aaronson to run on to, and smash past the keeper from 12 yards, ending any hopes of Derby getting anything from the game.





Unforced changes raise eyebrows

The four unforced changes Daniel Farke made to the starting line-up yesterday proved ineffective, and puzzled many fans. Whilst the efforts of Gnonto, Ramazani and Joseph won't go unnoticed, their contributions were far from influential. It wasn't until Messrs Solomon, James and Piroe came on, that Leeds came alive.

£10m Summer signing Largie Ramazani was particularly disappointing. The 23yo had little influence during the game, and Gnonto was not much better. There's a case that the former Manchester Utd apprentice is still a little ring rusty following his ankle injury sustained during the 2-1 win against Watford in October.

He's been back in the Leeds squad for over a month now, but has been consigned cameo roles up until last night. The decision to rest four key players (Piroe, Solomon, James and Rothwell) ultimately hindered the team's initial performance and could have very easily upset the apple cart.


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I watched the match on TV and thought that box to box we played some good football but please, can anyone going to the Blackburn game ask Farke to suggest to the lads that they put away one or two of the very decent chances that are squandered in the first ten or fifteen minutes - it will help my nerves no end.
Also when defending a one goal lead with six minutes to go putting Bamfraud on seemed to be a very strange decision.
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Morning

Great to see us TOTL at this point.

We have managed to grind out six very useful points under tricky circumstances.

There was a fair bit of rustiness last night, Tanaka and Amps needs time to bed in and wingers always blow hot and cold.

Looking back on that goal last night, it was a thing or beauty, and highlights the value of time on the training pitch.

Piroes pass to Aaronson was the play of a No 10. And the finish was composed too.
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Morning all
Another 3 great points and clean sheet and another away win.
Some odd changes in there, maybe DF is hoping they are ready but it proved they ain't, more minutes as subs needed especially for Joseph and Ramalamadingdong .
More wasted chances to kill the game but I honestly thought we would never concede all night,we were pretty solid at the back.
Thought a couple of their players left their feet in and the ref allowed it only to book Ampadu for less.
3 points against blackburn will be fantastic but another tough game without doubt.
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ramazani's performance was a bit of a concern, as was joseph's to a lesser extent

ramazani in particular given the 10 million outlay but it's still early days

since we're top and flying I doubt we'll reinforce in January but loaning out joseph to get some first team experience would be a good idea if we could get a better replacement in

great to grind out a result yesterday

we have a tough run coming jan/feb I think - this will be the defining period of the season
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All the results went our way at the weekend, and we got another away win,so it was very enjoyable all round. But lets not kid ourselves and get too carried away just yet.
Long way to go and many more points to play for, i doubt it will turn into a walk in the park knowing us, lol
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GreennWhite wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2024 11:01 am All the results went our way at the weekend, and we got another away win,so it was very enjoyable all round. But lets not kid ourselves and get too carried away just yet.
Long way to go and many more points to play for, i doubt it will turn into a walk in the park knowing us, lol
I'd happily take 92 points if it was offered now :)
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DF's assessment of Ampadu's importance particularly in away games has been proven spectacularly right and there is a sense of reassurance that he provides at the base of midfield. It seemed like Tanaka was a bit confused about his role at times which led to Gnonto and Ramazani foraging back rather than was good for their attacking. Rothwell against Stoke was more comfortable in what seems to be his natural role. I thought Bamford for Aaronson made perfect sense when Brenden had run himself into the ground. It enables Piroe to move to 10 from which he has shown in recent weeks his capacity late on in games to find a great pass and at times to get a goal more easily than at 9 . Also many of us who despise the name used consider that experience, nous and title winning careers are great assets to have on the bench to see out tight games. Ever since he has been Leeds manager DF has been criticised for failing to rotate and poor use of substitutes now it would appear that these are not issues any more?
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danhirons wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2024 10:38 am
since we're top and flying I doubt we'll reinforce in January but loaning out joseph to get some first team experience would be a good idea if we could get a better replacement in
This is the only way we could think about sending him out. I’m sure regular football is the key, as players grow with confidence. All strikers go through lean periods, and not playing full games isn’t going to resolve the issue. I’m assuming we go up this season, in which case I see Joseph going out on loan next season, he’s not a PL striker by any means at this stage, but could very well be at some point.
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Irish Ian wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2024 10:05 am
Looking back on that goal last night, it was a thing or beauty, and highlights the value of time on the training pitch.

Piroes pass to Aaronson was the play of a No 10. And the finish was composed too.
Ironic. The nine makes the play of a ten and the ten makes the play of a nine. Beautiful pass, beautiful run into space and perfect finish.
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Tom the Cat wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2024 9:49 am
Also when defending a one goal lead with six minutes to go putting Bamfraud on seemed to be a very strange decision.
I think Bamford was on to hold the ball up, as soon after the goal, we just kept lumping it aimlessly back upfield whenever it came into our half.
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In his player ratings in the YEP Graham Smyth said Bogle had to "soak up the boos."

I didn't hear any boos for Bogle coming over the television and I can't imagine why anyone would be booing the guy. He's been very good.

Anyone with knowledge of this?
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John in Louisiana wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2024 3:49 pm In his player ratings in the YEP Graham Smyth said Bogle had to "soak up the boos."

I didn't hear any boos for Bogle coming over the television and I can't imagine why anyone would be booing the guy. He's been very good.

Anyone with knowledge of this?
It was the Derby fans booing him, he played there for 2 seasons.
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We were on course for well over a 100 last season...
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Just seen that the Blunts have lost Souttar for the rest of the season, achilles injury.

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Carrick Dave wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2024 4:07 pm It was the Derby fans booing him, he played there for 2 seasons.
Thanks for clearing that up.
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John in Louisiana wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2024 3:49 pm In his player ratings in the YEP Graham Smyth said Bogle had to "soak up the boos."

I didn't hear any boos for Bogle coming over the television and I can't imagine why anyone would be booing the guy. He's been very good.

Anyone with knowledge of this?
I did hear boos for Bogle - pretty sure they were from the Derby fans. I was wondering why and if there had been any previous history

EDIT: answered in the next comment :)
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"Eyebrows raised over the changes?"

Hardly. It's 4 games in 10 days. We want Farke to use his squad. While the changes didn't excel to the level of their counterparts, we still got an important away win. So, all in all, they were good changes.

Ramazani was making his first start since Watford. Didn't contribute as much as we wanted. But he got a 70 minute run out and Solomon got a 70 minute rest. Good change.

Tanaka and Ampadu played together for the first time ever. Didn't seem to work for Tanaka yesterday. It might take a couple of games to click. But we kept a clean sheet, won the game.

Last season we saw what happened when Farke ran out the same 11 every game. The changes yesterday were just what we needed.
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andrewjohnsmith wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2024 4:55 pm "Eyebrows raised over the changes?"

Hardly. It's 4 games in 10 days. We want Farke to use his squad. While the changes didn't excel to the level of their counterparts, we still got an important away win. So, all in all, they were good changes.

Ramazani was making his first start since Watford. Didn't contribute as much as we wanted. But he got a 70 minute run out and Solomon got a 70 minute rest. Good change.

Tanaka and Ampadu played together for the first time ever. Didn't seem to work for Tanaka yesterday. It might take a couple of games to click. But we kept a clean sheet, won the game.

Last season we saw what happened when Farke ran out the same 11 every game. The changes yesterday were just what we needed.
Thought our corner taking looked more dangerous on Sunday both Rama's and Solomon.
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Rami is just returning from injury - it will take him time to find his groove. Similar concerns were made about Solomon not that long ago and a few questioned why we should not send him back to Spurs early in the winter window.

I personally belief it is a good thing to rotate- we could have started Piroe,James and Sol and still struggled initially. We don’t know. Sometimes you have to give the opposition some credit rather than assuming certain the players were underperforming.

Three players in form come on against tired legs. Generally a winning recipe, let’s be thankful we have these options. It is a squad game to get out of this league.
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