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Arsenal v Leeds United
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5–0
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23/08/2025
Emirates Stadium
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All-time record vs Arsenal
129
Played
41
Won
33
Drawn
55
Lost
-52
GD
32%
Win %
Away record
67
Played
15
Won
15
Drawn
37
Lost
-61
GD
22%
Win %
DateGroundScoreCompetition
01/04/2023 Emirates Stadium 4–1 L Premier League
16/10/2022 Elland Road 0–1 L Premier League
08/05/2022 Emirates Stadium 2–1 L Premier League
18/12/2021 Elland Road 1–4 L Premier League
26/10/2021 Emirates Stadium 2–0 L Carabao Cup, 4th Round
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1 Peter Lorimer 9
2 Tom Jennings 8
3 Lee Chapman 7
4 Allan Clarke 6
5 Joe Jordan 5
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26 Darlow
15 Bijol
23 Bornauw
20 Harrison
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The Subhuman wrote: Sun Aug 24, 2025 1:18 pm Tough to blame anyone

Rodon should have made the run for their first. Gudmundsson let Saka go and Perri should have saved Saka's shot. Bogle got in Struijk's way while missing a tackle for the third. Ping pong for the fouth, no one got a clean touch on it. Stach gave the pen away for the fourth
Spot on, all give-aways. :tup:
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72 errors in all.

That has to be the highest total of mistakes, since our second/third seasons last time in the Premier League.
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1964white wrote: Sun Aug 24, 2025 1:23 pm 72 errors in all.

That has to be the highest total of mistakes, since our second/third seasons last time in the Premier League.
A defeat entirely of our own making.

And Farke making 0 changes at half time showed he had naff all idea how to change it.
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SG90 wrote: Sat Aug 23, 2025 7:32 pm It's Rodon who should be dropped. He isn't good enough for this level.
Rodon - 19 decent pieces of play -- 6 poor actions.

Strujk 11 decent pieces of play ----- 8 poor actions.
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SG90 wrote: Sat Aug 23, 2025 8:36 pm I didn't have high hopes for James, sad to say. The 4 year contract suggests the club did and maybe didn't do much research. I expected better from Gnonto since he threw a tantrum about playing in the Championship and thought he was PL quality.
James - 9 decent pieces of play --- 5 poor actions

Gnonto - 5 decent pieces of play -- 5 poor actions

Aaronson - 6 decent pieces of play - 3 poor moments
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AcrossThePondAsh wrote: Sun Aug 24, 2025 9:57 am A southern staple. Any and every store sells it here in our Appalachian neck of the woods. Think it originated in SC if memory serves.
Second that on the Duke's. Best jarred mayonnaise in the US.
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Cjay wrote: Sun Aug 24, 2025 1:30 pm A defeat entirely of our own making.

And Farke making 0 changes at half time showed he had naff all idea how to change it.
I agree, that first-half was so poor, Farke should have made at least two changes at half-time.

Longstaff on for Gruev or Tanaka

Nmecha on for Piroe.
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Cjay wrote: Sun Aug 24, 2025 1:30 pm A defeat entirely of our own making.

And Farke making 0 changes at half time showed he had naff all idea how to change it.
Wouldn't say it was entirely of our own making. A lot of those mistakes were forced due to Arsenal pressure. They are the better side, clearly.

That being said, we did shoot ourselves in the foot on far too many occasions. Poor display. Did either of our strikers have any touches at all? Not Piroe's fault, really. For the striker to get a touch someone on the wing or in the midfield has to get him the ball, and our wingers and midfielders were outclassed by a wide margin.
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Cjay wrote: Sun Aug 24, 2025 1:08 pm Bit stupid to try playing through them then wasn't it . . . . . .
In hindsight yes, not sure what else he could've gone with, hoofball would've probably been better tbh now i've seen how good Arsenal were at home. Hopefully he's taken something from that :tup:
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John in Louisiana wrote: Sun Aug 24, 2025 12:19 pm Reminded me of how much things fell apart when Tyler Adams wend down a few years ago. Not a good sign that we're so reliant on one player to provide structure and composure.
Yes, our season went to pot after Tyler Adam's serious injury.

Look how much City missed Rodri last season!

The loss of one key player can make a massive difference!
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1964white wrote: Sun Aug 24, 2025 1:45 pm James - 9 decent pieces of play --- 5 poor actions

Gnonto - 5 decent pieces of play -- 5 poor actions

Aaronson - 6 decent pieces of play - 3 poor moments
So Gnonto hasn't proved he is a PL player so far then.
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White Lotus wrote: Sun Aug 24, 2025 2:02 pm In hindsight yes, not sure what else he could've gone with, hoofball would've probably been better tbh now i've seen how good Arsenal were at home. Hopefully he's taken something from that :tup:
He won't. Much like Russell Martin last season, he will stick to his 'principles'.
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Cjay wrote: Sun Aug 24, 2025 1:08 pm Bit stupid to try playing through them then wasn't it . . . . . .
When Bielsa beat Man Citeh, it was through parking the bus rather than all out attack. Ironically, it was Jesse Marsch who beat Chelski and Liverpool playing to our normal game.

If we play like we did yesterday and get battered by Newcastle, I can see the stadium turning on Farke.
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John in Louisiana wrote: Sun Aug 24, 2025 1:52 pm Wouldn't say it was entirely of our own making. A lot of those mistakes were forced due to Arsenal pressure. They are the better side, clearly.

That being said, we did shoot ourselves in the foot on far too many occasions. Poor display. Did either of our strikers have any touches at all? Not Piroe's fault, really. For the striker to get a touch someone on the wing or in the midfield has to get him the ball, and our wingers and midfielders were outclassed by a wide margin.
Arsenal clearly a better side absolutely

But we made it easy by our own choices.

How often did we go back to goalie and invite the press or go short from goalkicks.

As you say I don't really blame Piroe, we couldn't progress the ball back to front it's hard to know what else he should do.

I've got real concerns about our ability to create at this level.
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1964white wrote: Sun Aug 24, 2025 1:23 pm 72 errors in all.

That has to be the highest total of mistakes, since our second/third seasons last time in the Premier League.
You and I, and a few others, maintained all summer we needed PL experience. We signed Longstaff, and stuck him on the bench, and an unfit DCL a few days before kick off.
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Cjay wrote: Sun Aug 24, 2025 2:19 pmI've got real concerns about our ability to create at this level.
Precisely why we need to shut up shop at the back and nick a few 1-0s, because we won't outscore teams conceding loads.
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SG90 wrote: Sun Aug 24, 2025 2:19 pm You and I, and a few others, maintained all summer we needed PL experience. We signed Longstaff, and stuck him on the bench, and an unfit DCL a few days before kick off.
We need another PL quality No.9.

There is no guarantee Calvert-Lewin will remain fit, I truly hope he does as he could make a big difference up top for us.
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SG90 wrote: Sun Aug 24, 2025 2:06 pm He won't. Much like Russell Martin last season, he will stick to his 'principles'.
After Newcastle (home) we get Fulham (away) Wolves (away) Bournemouth (Home) he might resort to 4-2-3-1 for some, virtually all the teams are playing it out from the back these days in the Prem, some a lot better than others.
Still too early yet, those 4 games should give us a clearer picture.

Yes another negative from the Arsenal game was Gruev, I struggle to see what Farke does apart from 1 game last season when i saw him drop into the defence when we went forward. But that wasn't going to work v Arsenal and quite astonished he was still on the field for so long, he was one of the first i would've subbed.
In fact i felt the game was gone at h/t 2-0 so i'd have tried something completely different then.
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SG90 wrote: Sun Aug 24, 2025 2:05 pm So Gnonto hasn't proved he is a PL player so far then.
Bench player, as the majority of our championship players are!
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SG90 wrote: Sun Aug 24, 2025 2:09 pm When Bielsa beat Man Citeh, it was through parking the bus rather than all out attack. Ironically, it was Jesse Marsch who beat Chelski and Liverpool playing to our normal game.

If we play like we did yesterday and get battered by Newcastle, I can see the stadium turning on Farke.
Marsch for all his faults never lost by 5 clear goals.

The least we need to see vs Newcastle is Farke has learned something

We set up vs Newcastle as we did vs Arsenal then another battering could be on the cards.
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