Leeds vs Brighton Match Thread

[Cjay]

Yeah, I did think it was really clever and very much premeditated.

He's stated his position and he used some very smart examples to make his point, and continually curried favour with our supporters.

I mentioned the other day that when Bielsa kept us up, our second transfer summer was very disappointing: Dan James, Kristoffer Klaesson, Jack Harrison and Junior Firpo. So, he's making the club aware that sitting on your laurels at this level isn't an option, and he won't be a part of that.

I don't think the owners are daft enough to test the water with another leak this summer, as regardless of whether he jumps, or is pushed, there will be much wringing of hands, and tearing of clothes if DF leaves, and I don't think they'll fancy the backlash.

So, he's put them in a position where they have to develop a long term plan with his input and back him as our long term manager.

I think he deserves the credit for what he's achieved and I'm pleased he's had the balls to call them out in public, maybe that's him firing a few early shots after the leak last summer?'

I actually want a manager who is ambitious and wants a say in how we plan our future as he's gonna be the one taking the blame if things go tits up. I would be disappointed if he didn't flex his muscles after 3 relatively successful seasons at the helm.

I think he's talking whilst he's in a position of relative strength.

Getting his view across in public so their can be no confusion.

Now it's upto the owners how they want to go forward.

[White Riot]

I think he's talking whilst he's in a position of relative strength.

Getting his view across in public so their can be no confusion.

Now it's upto the owners how they want to go forward.

Yeah, it's the optimal time to do this with his popularity being at it's peak. The day after the Cup semi-final, or the abject performances against Arsenal and Brighton wouldn't have been the best moments to bang his own drum

And I still haven't forgiven that s**t show against Chelsea btw, that was not acceptable.

[1964white]

I thought it was a brilliant speech by Daniel Farke, and he used the press conference to state his ambition to the club, players and fans.

It's refreshing to have a manager who wants the best for us.

He's thrown the gauntlet down to the club, and we'll now see if the club is prepared to match Daniel's ambition and statement of intent.

If they don't convince him that they want to progress the club at the pace he desires then that for me was a clear warning that he'll walk away this summer and he will have plenty of suitors.

He's absolutely got the right attitude and ambition and he deserves to be backed. You can clearly see that he won't be hanging around for a survival, roll the dice kind of project.

The club needs to get it's finger out and agree a mission and objectives with DF. If they fail to do this, then that for me means we're back on the slippery slope and DF will leave this summer before his reputation is tarnished by the club's lack of ambition.

Well said Daniel Farke.

Farke is a honourable, honest, humble man, unlike the dickheads managing the top six clubs, who are an absolute disgrace imo!

Daniel is set to have discussions with the board, to establish if they have similar ambitions as himself, he wants the best for our club, not standing still as a mid-table club achieving nothing of note.

[White Riot]

Farke is a honourable, honest, humble man, unlike the dickheads managing the top six clubs, who are an absolute disgrace imo!

Daniel is set to have discussions with the board, to establish if they have similar ambitions as himself, he wants the best for our club, not standing still as a mid-table club achieving nothing of note.

Hopefully they listen to him Leon, cos he's clearly indicated he doesn't want to be any part of LUFC if we're just content with surviving at the top level.

[malcolmw]

Stach and Justin .... both excellent

My point precisely. I would add Bijol, Bogle, DCL, Tanaka, Longstaff to that list.

In fact our recruitment last summer - based on this season's data and the money spent was excellent. But it neve seems enough for some people.

And Farke's message at the press conference was in fact very exciting. He is saying ownership must now set new and lofteier goals. He is not just here to take his pay cheques. We must invest not to just survive but thrive in the PL. Previous ownership let Bielsa down in that regard. I highly, highly doubt the 49ers will do the same.

But some here are already saying he's leaving.

[1964white]

Hopefully they listen to him Leon, cos he's clearly indicated he doesn't want to be any part of LUFC if we're just content with surviving at the top level.

As he insisted, he's ambitious & a winner, James.

[1964white]

My point precisely. I would add Bijol, Bogle, DCL, Tanaka, Longstaff to that list.

In fact our recruitment last summer - based on this season's data and the money spent was excellent. But it neve seems enough for some people.

And Farke's message at the press conference was in fact very exciting. He is saying ownership must now set new and lofteier goals. He is not just here to take his pay cheques. We must invest not to just survive but thrive in the PL. Previous ownership let Bielsa down in that regard. I highly, highly doubt the 49ers will do the same.

But some here are already saying he's leaving.

The monetary value of Darlow, Bijol, Bogle, Rodon, Struijk Tanaka, Longstaff, Stach, Ampadu, Gudmundsson, Justin, Okafor, Nmecha, Gnonto & Calvert-Lewin, must have increased significantly after their season in the PL under the stewardship of Farke.

[Cjay]

My point precisely. I would add Bijol, Bogle, DCL, Tanaka, Longstaff to that list.

In fact our recruitment last summer - based on this season's data and the money spent was excellent. But it neve seems enough for some people.

And Farke's message at the press conference was in fact very exciting. He is saying ownership must now set new and lofteier goals. He is not just here to take his pay cheques. We must invest not to just survive but thrive in the PL. Previous ownership let Bielsa down in that regard. I highly, highly doubt the 49ers will do the same.

But some here are already saying he's leaving.

I don't think he's said he's leaving.

But he definitely wants to run the sporting side as the all overseeing manager.

Decide on signings, profile, style of play etc.

Based on that document last summer that isn't how the owners want to run the club.

Imo it was a power play, throw in ambition and buzzwords to get fans on side and lay your cards on the table.

[malcolmw]

I don't think he's said he's leaving.

But he definitely wants to run the sporting side as the all overseeing manager.

Decide on signings, profile, style of play etc.

Based on that document last summer that isn't how the owners want to run the club.

Imo it was a power play, throw in ambition and buzzwords to get fans on side and lay your cards on the table.

I see no evidence of a powerplay between him and his boss. They seem well aligned. He is simply reinforcing - publically - that the club must now take things to the next level.

The 49ers are the best business oriented owners we've had. They understand the investment made and that now needed. They would not be making the capital investment in the stadium if that wasnt the case.

Given the successful squad culture Farke has built, I've no doubt he will have ultimate say in who is brought in.

[Cjay]

I see no evidence of a powerplay between him and his boss. They seem well aligned. He is simply reinforcing - publically - that the club must now take things to the next level.

The 49ers are the best business oriented owners we've had. They understand the investment made and that now needed. They would not be making the capital investment in the stadium if that wasnt the case.

Given the successful squad culture Farke has built, I've no doubt he will have ultimate say in who is brought in.

He does.

But the owners have ultimate say on set criteria.

Was all in that document, the owners give the data team a list of set criteria and playing style, the data team find matches then Farke gets his pick.

It's exactly the same as Brighton.

What it isn't is all seeing manager running the footballing department.

And I think he wants to be, to recruit for his way and play his way.

He mentioned it in the press conference, him choosing style and recruitment stuff.

Don't forget DF by his own admission wanted to be a sporting director, they control everything.

[malcolmw]

He does.

But the owners have ultimate say on set criteria.

Was all in that document, the owners give the data team a list of set criteria and playing style, the data team find matches then Farke gets his pick.

It's exactly the same as Brighton.

What it isn't is all seeing manager running the footballing department.

And I think he wants to be, to recruit for his way and play his way.

He mentioned it in the press conference, him choosing style and recruitment stuff.

Don't forget DF by his own admission wanted to be a sporting director, they control everything.

Well of course the owners have the ultimate say - they have the cheque book. But they are not going to bring in players against the manager's wishes. Last summer's recruitment had Farke's fingerprints all over it.
The differnece in the past is the owners - from Ridsdale to Bates to the corn moron to Radz - thought they knew best what the club needed. None of them had any talent for long term vision. I believe this guy does.

[CUSSIE01]

That's great, it will be nice to see him playing live at ER.
Hopefully the lads can snuff him out

You mean like The Godfather ?

[CUSSIE01]

I thought it was a brilliant speech by Daniel Farke, and he used the press conference to state his ambition to the club, players and fans.

It's refreshing to have a manager who wants the best for us.

He's thrown the gauntlet down to the club, and we'll now see if the club is prepared to match Daniel's ambition and statement of intent.

If they don't convince him that they want to progress the club at the pace he desires then that for me was a clear warning that he'll walk away this summer and he will have plenty of suitors.

He's absolutely got the right attitude and ambition and he deserves to be backed. You can clearly see that he won't be hanging around for a survival, roll the dice kind of project.

The club needs to get it's finger out and agree a mission and objectives with DF. If they fail to do this, then that for me means we're back on the slippery slope and DF will leave this summer before his reputation is tarnished by the club's lack of ambition.

Well said Daniel Farke.

Well said yourself James.

[Cjay]

Well of course the owners have the ultimate say - they have the cheque book. But they are not going to bring in players against the manager's wishes. Last summer's recruitment had Farke's fingerprints all over it.
The differnece in the past is the owners - from Ridsdale to Bates to the corn moron to Radz - thought they knew best what the club needed. None of them had any talent for long term vision. I believe this guy does.

I didn't say they bring players in against his wishes.

But they basically dictate the profile of signing we make and by extension style of play.

I think Farke wants more control which is what it's all about.

Last summers recruitment had the owners fingerprints all over it, the profile of signing was no way DF's FarkeBall style (hence why it clicked when we moved away from it).

I think he wants more say on things he compromised on to move back to his way.

He said as much in the press conference, he wants to control style of play, signings and so on.

I imagine that will be a large part of what they talk about.

[Cjay]

That's Bielsa isn't it?

[Carrick Dave]

That's Bielsa isn't it?

Surely not?

[White Riot]

That's Bielsa isn't it?

I think it's Big Vern from Viz
"No ba***rd copper's gonna take me alive"

[malcolmw]

I didn't say they bring players in against his wishes.

But they basically dictate the profile of signing we make and by extension style of play.

I think Farke wants more control which is what it's all about.

Last summers recruitment had the owners fingerprints all over it, the profile of signing was no way DF's FarkeBall style (hence why it clicked when we moved away from it).

I think he wants more say on things he compromised on to move back to his way.

He said as much in the press conference, he wants to control style of play, signings and so on.

I imagine that will be a large part of what they talk about.

I dont think they dictate style of play at all cjay.
I think Paraag is focused on the business and return on investment. He has no real football experience and has given no inidication in any interviews that he believes he has. He knows what assets he has (the manager being a key one), and was clear at end of last season when people (you included) were saying Farke would not be the right manager for us in the PL, that "Farke was his man".

This press conference was Farke saying he has the cards now to set the agenda. He has accomplished all the objectives of "this project" and now new and ambitious goals must be set. If the owners want to tread water for a couple years, he is not their man.

He was clear - you must do more than the previous ownership did for Marcelo, or face the same outcome.
He was not bombastic or arrogant - he was clear and articulate.
I think it was a fantastic statement.
If the owners dont rise to the occasion, then frankly we dont deserve to keep Daniel Farke.
This is an amazing time for our club. I have to hope at this point that our owners will do the right thing and that all this hand wringing from Leeds fans is all uncalled for. I hope Im right.

[Sean_Nile]

[Aussieleeds]

If Farke stays and we improve the squad, there’s a pretty good chance that we improve as a team, and improve our ladder position. If Farke leaves now, then we are simply rolling the dice. If the last couple of PL seasons has shown us anything, it is that getting in a new manager comes with no guarantees, no matter what their pedigree.
Ironically, one team that improved this season was Brentford who probably preferred to keep Franck.

If DF is going to be sacked I want Ranieri.