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Good Morning. It's Wednesday 16th September, and here are the latest headlines from Elland Road...

Palace missing key men for Leeds trip

Crystal Palace have a lengthy injury and suspension list ahead of Sunday’s trip to Elland Road. The Eagles sit 16th with one win from four games and share the worst defensive record in the Premier League. Odd results happen, but a visit to an in-form Leeds side sitting third is not on their wish list. Daniel Farke’s side are unbeaten after four games, a run capped by Monday’s 4-1 win over Newcastle. They appear to have come through that physical contest without any fresh injury problems; that 's more than we can say about Crystal Palace.

Chadi Riad suffered an ACL tear after returning from a year-long absence in the opener against Everton and is expected to miss the rest of the season. Jean-Philippe Mateta picked up a hamstring injury in training at the end of August and is not expected back until after the international break. Goalkeeper Dean Henderson has a foot injury that kept him out of last weekend’s defeat to Ipswich and is unlikely to feature. Axel Disasi is suspended after a red card for violent conduct in the same game.

Former Leeds loanee Eddie Nketiah missed the Ipswich match after failing a late fitness test but could return this weekend. Ismaila Sarr is hoping to make the bench for his first appearance of the season as he works his way back from a groin problem. Daniel Farke has no new injury concerns. Joe Rodon remains the main casualty so far after his hamstring injury. Mateo Joseph is a long-term absentee with a knee problem, while Ilia Gruev is still working his way back after a lengthy lay-off.




Calvert-Lewin leading the way

Leeds have scored seven Premier League goals in four unbeaten games. Six of those have come from open play or set-piece involvement by their own players; the other was Lewis Miley’s own goal against Newcastle. The offensive numbers show a clear first wave of contributors, with Dominic Calvert-Lewin leading the way. Four starts, 331 minutes, two goals and one assist, the 29yo leads the side for shots (2.5 per game) and is the only regular attacker with a meaningful offside count (1.3), which is what you want from a No.9 pinning a back line. Rating: 7.08.

Jayden Bogle has matched him for goals (two) from right wing-back. He is fouled more than anyone listed (2.0 per game), a sign he is carrying the ball into dangerous areas. Fewer shots than Calvert-Lewin, but a higher WhoScored rating (7.24) because the end product has been efficient. Anton Stach is the surprise third name on the scoring chart. A midfielder with 358 minutes, one goal, and the best key-pass rate in the group (1.3 per game). His 7.38 rating is the highest on the list. He is winning fouls (1.8) and getting on the end of things rather than just sitting in front of the defence.

Noah Okafor has one goal from 227 minutes (three starts, one sub). The standout number is dribbles: 1.5 per game, comfortably the highest among the regulars. When he is on the pitch he is the one trying to break lines. Rating: 7.03. Those four players account for all six of Leeds’ own league goals. Ao Tanaka has one assist in 190 minutes and a solid 7.07 rating. Low volume, tidy: one shot and one dribble per game, almost no waste. Ethan Ampadu has played every minute (360) and offers the least attacking output of the regulars, 0.5 shots, 0.8 key passes, which fits his role as the holding piece. Rating 6.95 is respectable for a destroyer asked to do little going forward.

Brenden Aaronson (174 minutes) and Harry Wilson (146 minutes) have not scored or assisted. Aaronson’s rating (6.12) is the lowest of anyone with significant time; he is being fouled (1.5) but losing the ball (0.8 dispossessed, 1.5 unsuccessful touches). Wilson’s key-pass rate (1.0) is decent for a rotation attacker, but the shot volume is tiny. Daniel James has only 29 minutes. The sample is too small to mean much, though three shots per game in that cameo explains why he is used as an impact runner. Gabriel Gudmundsson has two appearances and 162 minutes with almost no attacking numbers attached. He is there for width and balance, not chance creation.

Leeds are not spraying chances around. Calvert-Lewin is the shot leader; Stach is the passer from midfield; Bogle and Okafor supply the wide threat and ball-carrying. Everyone else is either protecting the structure (Ampadu), or still waiting for a run of starts (Aaronson, Wilson, James). That matches the eye test from the first four games: a compact 3-5-2 / 3-4-3 that gets numbers forward through specific players rather than a free-scoring front line. Against a Palace side that has already conceded 11 goals, those four main contributors are the ones most likely to decide Sunday.




Dominic Calvert-Lewin, Crystal Palace, Jayden Bogle
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I'm not an Aaronson fan to be perfectly blunt. Never have been.

It might be a small sample but the stats set out in the article says it all

"....................Brenden Aaronson (174 minutes) ............Aaronson’s rating (6.12) is the lowest of anyone with significant time; he is being fouled (1.5) but losing the ball (0.8 dispossessed, 1.5 unsuccessful touches)................"

Loads of energy but on or anywhere near the ball he is just bang average.
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PhoenixUnited wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2026 8:53 am I'm not an Aaronson fan to be perfectly blunt. Never have been.

It might be a small sample but the stats set out in the article says it all

"....................Brenden Aaronson (174 minutes) ............Aaronson’s rating (6.12) is the lowest of anyone with significant time; he is being fouled (1.5) but losing the ball (0.8 dispossessed, 1.5 unsuccessful touches)................"

Loads of energy but on or anywhere near the ball he is just bang average.
Tend to agree with you here. DF obviously likes his energy and disruptivness, however on the ball he rarely looks comfortable and the most likely danger created is to us when he gives the ball away. Subject to injuries, I think Brenden becomes more of a squad player this season.
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Everything points to a Leeds win on Sunday.
Defeat incoming.....
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I think Aaronson takes a lot of criticism based on him not being the type of player that he never claimed to be When Rutter left so late in the window and there was no chance to replace him Brenden was shoe horned into the 10 role and he produced a decent goal return while a lot of his key passes were squandered which affected his assists numbers. It was clear however that it wasn't his natural position. At times mostly when reacting instinctively he produces very good touches but when he has a bit of time to think he goes for the wrong option. However given that many of the situations where he loses possession are when he has taken the ball around the edge of our box and is trying to engineer a breakout often surrounded by 2 or 3 of the opposition his stats for losing possession are a bit misleading. He is likely to have much fewer starts this season and I will be interested to see how that works out for him. He has an incredible workrate and his stats for goals and assists last season were decent if unspectacular. It is also relevant that he tends to go on scoring streaks so taking a 4 game sample size will not reflect his potential contibution.
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Regarding Aaronson he's the only one of those who following relegation left on loan to come back and secure a new contract. That in itself shows something about his character and there's no doubt he's played his part in our revival. In fact it's a shame he did leave for that one season as quite possibly we would have bounced straight back had he remained with us.
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Chilli D wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2026 9:04 am Everything points to a Leeds win on Sunday.
Defeat incoming.....
Yes - need to have a care not to get carried away and be ready for a good old scrap.
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I forecast a decent win, if only to wipe the smile from the face of that turd number 23 (can’t be arsed to look up his name) who celebrated as though they had won the Workd Cup by getting Guds sent off.
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Orange Box wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2026 10:58 am I forecast a decent win, if only to wipe the smile from the face of that turd number 23 (can’t be arsed to look up his name) who celebrated as though they had won the Workd Cup by getting Guds sent off.
Timber is the current 23, I could be arsed to look 😁
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Finnatic wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2026 11:05 am Timber is the current 23, I could be arsed to look 😁
He wasn’t the celebrating turd though, was he?

Edit. Jaydee Canvot, just asked AI
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Nothing in football is guaranteed :shhh: If we play to our strengths we win this :tup: , but we have all been around long enough to know things don't always go as you hoped they would :)
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Jammy 07 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2026 10:15 am Regarding Aaronson he's the only one of those who following relegation left on loan to come back and secure a new contract. That in itself shows something about his character and there's no doubt he's played his part in our revival. In fact it's a shame he did leave for that one season as quite possibly we would have bounced straight back had he remained with us.
He came back because no sod wanted him having flopped in his previous two seasons.

We then got the pr push from the club and him.

He's shite, he runs around a lot which appeals to old fashioned English football mentality so he appeals to some.

A Spaniel would do the same if you put some ham in the ball.

He'd have made sod all difference in our first season, Gelhardt is better than him but didn't get off the bench.

Infact he'd have probably made us worse because Farke would have dropped Georgie for him.

Has a part to play . . . In the MLS.

New contract was ridiculous

Seems a nice kid though, would still seem a nice kid 2000 miles away in the MLS

How he's got this minor cult status with some will never know.

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Orange Box wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2026 11:15 am He wasn’t the celebrating turd though, was he?

Edit. Jaydee Canvot, just asked AI
Canvot was the main one, but all around they werefist pumping. It was Sarr that deliberately got Gabby sent off. Moments earlier he took a dive when Bogle got close to him, and begged for a yellow.
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Ellandback1 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2026 1:21 pm Canvot was the main one, but all around they werefist pumping. It was Sarr that deliberately got Gabby sent off. Moments earlier he took a dive when Bogle got close to him, and begged for a yellow.
Yep. Turds all and we all know that turds cannot be polished! :roflmao:
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Cjay wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2026 11:36 am He came back because no sod wanted him having flopped in his previous two seasons.

We then got the pr push from the club and him.

He's shite, he runs around a lot which appeals to old fashioned English football mentality so he appeals to some.

A Spaniel would do the same if you put some ham in the ball.

He'd have made sod all difference in our first season, Gelhardt is better than him but didn't get off the bench.

Infact he'd have probably made us worse because Farke would have dropped Georgie for him.

Has a part to play . . . In the MLS.

New contract was ridiculous

Seems a nice kid though, would still seem a nice kid 2000 miles away in the MLS

How he's got this minor cult status with some will never know.

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Love his American accent so he'll do for me..... ;-)
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whiteswan wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2026 1:45 pm Love his American accent so he'll do for me..... ;-)
When we are playing he could come to your house and narrate the match for you

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Cjay wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2026 11:36 am He came back because no sod wanted him having flopped in his previous two seasons.

We then got the pr push from the club and him.

He's shite, he runs around a lot which appeals to old fashioned English football mentality so he appeals to some.

A Spaniel would do the same if you put some ham in the ball.

He'd have made sod all difference in our first season, Gelhardt is better than him but didn't get off the bench.

Infact he'd have probably made us worse because Farke would have dropped Georgie for him.

Has a part to play . . . In the MLS.

New contract was ridiculous

Seems a nice kid though, would still seem a nice kid 2000 miles away in the MLS

How he's got this minor cult status with some will never know.

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I’d agree he’s frustrating at times.

However he still scores his fair share and so does contribute.

So fart with some poo as you might like to describe it.
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Cjay wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2026 1:55 pm When we are playing he could come to your house and narrate the match for you

Suits me
Bless him....I'm sure he would rather be playing footy for you Cjay.... :)
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Jammy 07 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2026 2:51 pm I’d agree he’s frustrating at times.

However he still scores his fair share and so does contribute.

So fart with some poo as you might like to describe it.
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whiteswan wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2026 2:55 pm Bless him....I'm sure he would rather be playing footy for you Cjay.... :)
No I think he'd prefer a nice comfy space on a chair and a lovely chat about the match with Swannie over the football :)
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