Thursday's Breakfast Debate - Ten Games In.....

[Cjay]

Are we all still confident?

No.

Making this Sheffield Weds side look so good when they looked so poor last week is disgraceful

[Norm]

faaip wrote:

Are we all still confident?

Nope - TC has a mountain to climb after this one.

[60sUnited]

Probably the same as the team now, my confidence is shot, mainly due to our performances v Millwall, Cardiff and now Wednesday. If we are serious contenders for a play off place we cannot be rolled over as easily as we have been. I agree with Faaip in that this has been coming and we got a bit carried away with our start against bottom half teams. Lets hope TC can steady the ship and we return after the break at least with some fighting spirit

[gessa]

3 home games and 1 tough away in October to get things back on track.

[The Subhuman]

Not saying things won't work out, we could easily be a top 6 side but all I'm saying is there are weaknesses and areas of concern. Even when we were winning well. Right now all we can say is we're a top half team

[gessa]

Agreed, i didn't get carried away after first 8 games, it's a long long season and teams can go on a bad run as easily as they have a good one, our home form looks like it will carry us forward so hopefully those next 3 can get us back to winning ways.

We lack
A keeper
A left back
A quality centre half
A quality defesive midfielder
A pacy wide player who can cross.
4 of those positions we have cover for but are they good enough is the question..1 is definitely better than the first choice.
Lonegan better than Felix - yes
CBJ better than Anita/Berardi- if not on their showings this season, then we shouldn't have loaned him.
Jury out on Pennington and the other 2 aren't good enough consistently- a position we need to get a new player for in January.
Vieira is netter than Phillips and O'Kane- just needs to win it and play it to the creative players in front of him, ala Batty.
Sacko has pace to burn unfortunately not the footballing brain to match it. Another position we need to buy in January.

[The Subhuman]

Agreed, i didn't get carried away after first 8 games, it's a long long season and teams can go on a bad run as easily as they have a good one, our home form looks like it will carry us forward so hopefully those next 3 can get us back to winning ways.

We lack
A keeper
A left back
A quality centre half
A quality defesive midfielder
A pacy wide player who can cross.
4 of those positions we have cover for but are they good enough is the question..1 is definitely better than the first choice.
Lonegan better than Felix - yes
CBJ better than Anita/Berardi- if not on their showings this season, then we shouldn't have loaned him.
Jury out on Pennington and the other 2 aren't good enough consistently- a position we need to get a new player for in January.
Vieira is netter than Phillips and O'Kane- just needs to win it and play it to the creative players in front of him, ala Batty.
Sacko has pace to burn unfortunately not the footballing brain to match it. Another position we need to buy in January.

Jeez Gessa and I thought I was the pessimistic one, we added what? 17 players in the summer (14 midfielders it seems) That list is longer than I find comfortable.

[gessa]

Jeez Gessa and I thought I was the pessimistic one, we added what? 17 players in the summer (14 midfielders it seems) That list is longer than I find comfortable.

But do you disagree with any of it mate.

[The Subhuman]

But do you disagree with any of it mate.

Not really but there maybe in house answers, Klich was my favourite summer signing. Needs a run of games. I've always been a Vierra fan. Coop is the best captain we have, he may play erratically but he's a good captain and solid when paired with PJ.

[The Subhuman]

I'd forgotten we'd loaned CBJ, loans need to play, no point rotting in the U23's

[gessa]

Not really but there maybe in house answers, Klich was my favourite summer signing. Needs a run of games. I've always been a Vierra fan. Coop is the best captain we have, he may play erratically but he's a good captain and solid when paired with PJ.

As i said mate, we have cover for most of our inadequacies, it's up to TC to sort it, if he starts the next game with the same 11 , I'll will lose a lot of confidence in him.

[gessa]

Where does Gomes play???

[The Subhuman]

Midfielder central IIRC, ex Liverpool isn't he?

[gessa]

Yes..couple of decent games in early cup games i recall..didn't see him

[Cjay]

Agreed, i didn't get carried away after first 8 games, it's a long long season and teams can go on a bad run as easily as they have a good one, our home form looks like it will carry us forward so hopefully those next 3 can get us back to winning ways.

We lack
A keeper
A left back
A quality centre half
A quality defesive midfielder
A pacy wide player who can cross.
4 of those positions we have cover for but are they good enough is the question..1 is definitely better than the first choice.
Lonegan better than Felix - yes
CBJ better than Anita/Berardi- if not on their showings this season, then we shouldn't have loaned him.
Jury out on Pennington and the other 2 aren't good enough consistently- a position we need to get a new player for in January.
Vieira is netter than Phillips and O'Kane- just needs to win it and play it to the creative players in front of him, ala Batty.
Sacko has pace to burn unfortunately not the footballing brain to match it. Another position we need to buy in January.

Agree on those was prepared to give Felix a chance since Green was awful early on but Felix is looking worse.
Think we all knew we needed a cb including the club, never believed the "tc is happy with what he has" that i think Orta or Radz said, convinced we got turned down by Harlee Dean for a start.
Left back was slightly less of a concert with Berardi last season and the potential of Cbj but Berardi looks like a player out of position now.

Still believe Vieira is the answer as a dm and Klich will prove to be a good signing, will end up our midfield partnership in the end.

Pacey winger who can cross, Pablo has shown he can cross although not pacey. Alioski has also shown before the break he can cross so think winger is less of a worry.

Its the centre of the midfield that we are really suffering at the moment for me.