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Stoke City v Leeds United
Stoke City
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0–3
Championship
24/08/2019
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Leeds United
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All-time record vs Stoke City
99
Played
49
Won
20
Drawn
30
Lost
+31
GD
49%
Win %
Away record
49
Played
17
Won
8
Drawn
24
Lost
-31
GD
35%
Win %
DateGroundScoreCompetition
19/01/2019 Bet 365 Stadium 2–1 L Championship ↗
05/08/2018 Elland Road 3–1 W Championship ↗
30/12/2006 Britannia Stadium 3–1 L Championship ↗
14/10/2006 Elland Road 0–4 L Championship ↗
25/03/2006 Elland Road 0–0 D Championship ↗
All-time top scorers vs Stoke City
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1 Peter Lorimer 11
2 Billy Bremner 6
3 Joel Piroe 6
4 Mick Jones 5
5 Don Weston 5
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Goa Casilla
Def Dallas
Def Berardi
Def White
Def Alioski
Mid Phillips
Mid Klich
Mid Forshaw
Mid Hernandez ©
Mid Harrison
For Bamford
Substitutes
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SUB Costa
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-- Meslier
-- Struijk
-- Gotts
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Irish Ian wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2019 12:17 pm Just read the presser summary, I suspect if we didnt gave to be making changes elsewhere the boss may be more inclined to rotating in Costa and Eddie.

Surely on Saturday we should be able to impose ourselves on a Stoke side that seems riven by disinterest and disunity...

But we all remember last time we went there.
Bit concerned that we arent even out of August yet and if Dallas and Cooper dont make it then thats 5 first team players already.

Roberts and Ayling out till who knows, Douglas, Dallas, Cooper, thats 4 defenders, we didnt have many to start with.

We should beat Stoke regardless but as you say last season, Jones has only won 4 games, we were 1.
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Here we go again.....

We not even out of August & we have Ayling, Roberts, Cooper, Douglas & Dallas in the treatment room :shock: our defence is decimated

4th RB starting
Main CB & captain out
3rd CB starting
2nd LB starting

Another crazy situation developing, no doubt it will become worse !
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1964white wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:51 am Hopefully see you there tomorrow Gurj :-D
Yes fingers crossed Leon. Safe journey mate.
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Berardi easily good enough to slot in and everyone has been saying Shack should start soon. Both nailed on quality starters.
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This is just not good. Too many injuries once again rearing it's ugly head and it seems to be the same players. I understand that there will obviously be injuries during any season but just 3 weeks in and half a dozen potentially unavailable for selection . Something just isn't right and its become very disruptive. Yes we have decent back-up but thats not really the point is it.

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i love the style of football we play which is attack led , game number 5 against Stoke and the defender injuries are mounting up , should we have bought / loaned defenders close season instead of what we got ?? , i feel we are a bit under staffed at the back and i noticed we are lacking in height as well .
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beer belly bert wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2019 5:20 pm i love the style of football we play which is attack led , game number 5 against Stoke and the defender injuries are mounting up , should we have bought / loaned defenders close season instead of what we got ?? , i feel we are a bit under staffed at the back and i noticed we are lacking in height as well .
Where have you been stranger ?

Indeed we are under-staffed, lessons not learned from last season :(
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Current right (wing) backs

Ayling - injured. Probably our number 1 but it's close
Dallas - slight injury - probably our number 2 but could get past Ayling or slip behind Berardi, it's that close
Beradi - Best defender of the 4, probably would have started game 1 if he hadn't been suspended
Shackleton - Not far behind the above three but only on experience, talent wise probably the best of the 4 and would almost certainly be starting for 80% of the league already

Not sure spending money on a 5th quality starting RWB would have made too much sense. Disagree we haven't learned lessons from last season..maybe the fans haven't learned the lessons from last season. Appears not judging by the slagging off of Pablo this week...

I'd bet no other team has 4 quality starting right backs, wing or otherwise
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I have little in the way of issues regarding depth right through he squad. The issue I have with injuries is they affect continuity and that can't be circumvented by having 10 10 Million pound right backs.
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faaip wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:41 pm Beradi - Best defender of the 4, probably would have started game 1 if he hadn't been suspended
Berardi was tosh when he came on against Brentford

Dallas is our best RWB right now, currently in the best form of his Leeds career
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1964white wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:47 pm Berardi was tosh when he came on against Brentford

Dallas is our best RWB right now, currently in the best form of his Leeds career
You're doing it again, dismissing a player based on 10 minutes work....
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Can anyone explain to me what 'carrying a knock' means.
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whiteswan wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2019 1:37 am Can anyone explain to me what 'carrying a knock' means.
You've taken a kick (knock) and it's still sore.
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whiteswan wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2019 1:37 am Can anyone explain to me what 'carrying a knock' means.
No Ducky a "knock" is not another name for a large dram......

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mothbanquet wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2019 10:24 am I think that's the most likely event in the unlikely event Bilesa will change the formation everyone's used to and thinks works. I think he'll put Eddie in Klich's place,
Don't forget it was Klich who played the through ball for Costa to make the pass for Eddie to score the goal
against Brentford. Klich has the legs to get up and down the park whereas Pablo was struggling to make
a decent pass. I think that three games in a week might be too much for him so I would give him a rest
instead of Klich,,, just saying.
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Agreed can't drop Klich atm
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whiteswan wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2019 1:37 am Can anyone explain to me what 'carrying a knock' means.
A "Knock" is an Elf like creature, originating from Scandinavia, borne from the castigated Norwegian Jotunn, and loosely related to the Irish Leprechaun, (minus the green hat and coat). They are associated with magical powers and charm dreams. Knocks whilst reclusive in nature are quite ambivalent with humans, and have been associated with football for some time now. They are usually reasonably ambivalent to humans, however some of their species can be a bit tiresome, such as the "Niggly Knock", or the fairly aggressive "Nasty Knock". I believe Marcelo Bielsa has learned from last season and is introducing them to some of the squad in the belief that it may aid our shots to goals ratio by minimizing the power of force fields that some of our opponents are unfairly using around their 6-yard boxes. I believe that there is concern from some quarters of our fan base due to the fact that a team may only be able to carry a limited amount of knocks within a full season. Whilst not fully conversant with the Football Association, "Laws of the Game", rule book, I believe that over carrying of knocks could result in a points deduction.
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No way should we drop Klich, we always look poorer when he is subbed

Marcelo may have to make enforced changes because of injuries so it would be ludicrous to make even more.

I do believe if Dallas & Cooper are fit to play Bielsa will go with the same XI that started v Brentford, bringing on our game-changers in the 2nd half if need be !
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Azkalwhite wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2019 7:21 am A "Knock" is an Elf like creature, originating from Scandinavia, borne from the castigated Norwegian Jotunn, and loosely related to the Irish Leprechaun, (minus the green hat and coat). They are associated with magical powers and charm dreams. Knocks whilst reclusive in nature are quite ambivalent with humans, and have been associated with football for some time now. They are usually reasonably ambivalent to humans, however some of their species can be a bit tiresome, such as the "Niggly Knock", or the fairly aggressive "Nasty Knock". I believe Marcelo Bielsa has learned from last season and is introducing them to some of the squad in the belief that it may aid our shots to goals ratio by minimizing the power of force fields that some of our opponents are unfairly using around their 6-yard boxes. I believe that there is concern from some quarters of our fan base due to the fact that a team may only be able to carry a limited amount of knocks within a full season. Whilst not fully conversant with the Football Association, "Laws of the Game", rule book, I believe that over carrying of knocks could result in a points deduction.
I remember when Cooper had a "NASTY KNOCK" on his head.
Put him right off his game it did. Terrible creatures they are
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