Leeds Utd v Derby County Match Thread - WTF happened out there??

[1964white]

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Bielsa's explanation makes total sense

[gessa]

Bielsa's explanation makes total sense

I heard you the first time

[hector]

Bielsa's explanation makes total sense

So much sense that you need to tell us 3 times to make sure that we heard you, and that it sinks in...

[SG90]

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Why do we need Forshaw at home when teams have ten men behind the ball?

[SG90]

Not me mate, Eddie wasn't as effective when he started v Stoke in the cup, we couldn't hold or retain the ball up top, consequently Stoke scored two twice before half-time, admittedly we played a weaken line-up

It's because we had no centre backs, rather than Nketiah starting. It's the only time we've conceded more than one too.

Not starting Nketiah will come back to haunt us in January when Arsenal recall him for not getting enough starts. They know he'd start every game for Hull and would prefer that.

[gessa]

Why do we need Forshaw at home when teams have ten men behind the ball?

Agree, no reason why we can't have 2 systems, one for home and one away

[1964white]

I heard you the first time

[1964white]

So much sense that you need to tell us 3 times to make sure that we heard you, and that it sinks in...

Where

[1964white]

It's because we had no centre backs, rather than Nketiah starting. It's the only time we've conceded more than one too.

Not starting Nketiah will come back to haunt us in January when Arsenal recall him for not getting enough starts. They know he'd start every game for Hull and would prefer that.

The reason Nketiah is at Leeds is because he is being cared for by a top coach not the likes Grant McCann or the majority of other championship managers

[SG90]

The reason Nketiah is at Leeds is because he is being cared for by a top coach not the likes Greg McCann or the majority of other championship managers

All they care about is the amount of game time rather than coaching. Tottenham are recalling Clarke, even though Poch and Bielsa are pals.

[1964white]

All they care about is the amount of game time rather than coaching. Tottenham are recalling Clarke, even though Poch and Bielsa are pals.

Has Jack spat his dummy out again?

He doesn't deserve to be anywhere near our first-team, another one who has got too big for his boots

Clarke is still a kid & needs to be patient, work hard & up his game plus learn his trade under the guidance of Bielsa

[SG90]

Has Jack spat his dummy out again?

He doesn't deserve to be anywhere near our first-team, another one who has got too big for his boots

Clarke is still a kid & needs to be patient, work hard & up his game plus learn his trade under the guidance of Bielsa

Tbf he hasn't had a chance to prove himself. It just makes the Meslier signing pointless. Having a GK sat on the bench for 46 games wasting a loan spot, when Clarke could come off the bench for 20 mins to run at teams. We could have used him when Pablo came off yesterday.

[gessa]

Tbf he hasn't had a chance to prove himself. It just makes the Meslier signing pointless. Having a GK sat on the bench for 46 games wasting a loan spot, when Clarke could come off the bench for 20 mins to run at teams. We could have used him when Pablo came off yesterday.

Tbf, even he was on the bench,I don't think he would have come on, Roberts was the direct replacement but it was Douglas that came on..

[SG90]

Tbf, even he was on the bench,I don't think he would have come on, Roberts was the direct replacement but it was Douglas that came on..

It's too early for Roberts. Bogusz or Kun would have made more sense.

[gessa]

It's too early for Roberts. Bogusz or Kun would have made more sense.

They weren't on the bench, Roberts was.

[1964white]

Tbf, even he was on the bench,I don't think he would have come on, Roberts was the direct replacement but it was Douglas that came on..

I expected Roberts to come on, was flabbergasted when I saw our No.3 limbering up or shall i say lumbering up

[SG90]

They weren't on the bench, Roberts was.

That's what I meant, they should have been on the bench instead. Roberts was never coming on or he'd have been Pablo's replacement.

[SG90]

I expected Roberts to come on, was flabbergasted when I saw our No.3 limbering up or shall i say lumbering up

I thought Pablo was coming off for Eddie, which would have made sense.

[The Subhuman]

Douglas came on because Bielsa realised our left side had become extremely vunerable. Take off Harrison you either have to play Alio there and no LWB or play someone out of position on the left wing.

If you bring Nketiah on you bring on Costa at the same time and if we haven't scored or need a second that should be around the hour mark. You keep Harrison on as he does deliver quality balls into the box. Lets take two occasions yesterday. The pull back for Bamford was a good ball but Bamford stopped moving into the space as it got delivered and changed direction and headed for goal instead (Which actually put a defender between him and Jack) Patrick was facing away from goal and moving that way as Harrison checked his movement. The pass missed by 5 yards and went to a defender, that makes Harrison look bad but it was all on Bamford.

Then there was the cross which to be fair may have been a touch high for Bamford but he just didn't make the run a forward is supposed to and attack the cross, again making Harrioson look stupid and hence the long look at Bamford from Harrison and Bamford looking sheepish. What that should have looked like was a threatening cross that Bamford had a chance to get on the end on.

Bamford is very good ball at feet, he can hold play up well and takes defenders with him but he takes himself out of the game when he does so. When Roofe did it he kept himself in the box and had the pace to then get back into the move..I think Nketiah can do that too plus he's a much better finisher and that's key. You don't have a finisher on the pitch in any team sport you're going to struggle to score goals, tries baskets touchdowns or whatever..In American football parlance Bamford would be a WR3, solid does the dirty work but not relied on in key areas to get the job done

[becchio bear]

Ok I was there yesterday courtesy of another ticket win

Started out a bit stressful as the main car park I was expecting to get in had road closed barriers across it so ended up on a random street in Holbeck The picking up of the tickets was great, no queue at all and so that part was great. Into the stadium and a Fanta orange for me to calm the nerves lol.

First half of football was amazing. Sublime passing, superb to watch and a goal to boot. Cut to the second half, what the hell happened there? I was sat 6 rows from the front and my seat was right opposite the corner flag near the Kop. Eddie and Costa started warming up, yay thought I. Then Douglas joined them ...... Couldn't believe it when I saw Douglas taking his bib off I'm sorry but I just don't see what he adds to the team. I think he is lazy and slow, I thought that at the Caraboa Cup game and I thought it again yesterday. Glad Costa came on and was beginning to think that Eddie wouldn't get any game time at all. Yes Bamford does an awful lot of running in midfield etc but quite frankly that is not what he is paid to do. He is our number 9, he is supposed to be a striker, you know the one who scores goals!! He is not doing that. Maybe he should sack being a striker and become a midfielder

I could see a late snatch and grab from Derby coming and that's exactly what happened. We dominated that game for 50 minutes and then decided to sit back, let them take control, gain in confidence and score It was so frustrating to watch, I left feeling as if we had lost rather than drawn.

Eddie and Costa need more game time, don't just put them on for 15 or 10 minutes and expect miracles. Our players should not expect a shoe in to the next game, they should be made to feel they have to fight for their position.

As for Klich's penalty absolutely awful.