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The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Tuesday 18th August) White keen on Elland Road switch if contract talks break down

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Good Morning. It's Tuesday 18th August, and here are the latest headlines from Elland Road...


Hay - White keen on ER switch if contract talks break down

Phil Hay has this morning revealed that Ben White would be keen to return to Elland Road, IF contract talks break down between him and the Brighton. Currently the Seagulls are offering the 22 year old just shy of £20,000 a week. The former Chief football writer for the YEP also revealed that Bielsa is only looking for one centre back, as Ayling and Struijk can provide cover.

They (Brighton) have tried to push White’s salary closer to the £20,000 a week mark but he has turned down their proposals. Leeds accept that if White and Brighton do agree new terms, a transfer is off the table. They also suspect that the 22-year-old leaving may depend on him forcing the issue and asking to go. He is understood to be keen on returning to Leeds if contract talks with Brighton come to nothing. And in comparison to alternatives such as Koch, he has the advantage of being Bielsa-ready.

Leeds have four more weeks before their first Premier League game and Bielsa prefers his summer signings to be on board early, to make sure they are schooled in his methods and his expectations. He wants only one centre-back, irrespective of the loss of Gaetano Berardi for most if not all of the season following an ACL injury. Luke Ayling will shift across from right-back should injuries bite.

Leeds United's highest bid for the defender remains at £22 million and are the only club to have made an official bid so far. Brighton are back at training today with manager Graham Potter keen to discuss the future with Ben White. If the White move does not look likely to happen Leeds are also keen on German international Robin Koch at Freiburg.





Leeds turn their attention to Koch

Now that hopes of signing Ben White in doubt, Leeds have turned their attention to Germany International Robin Koch. It is thought that the 24 year old is Bielsa's second choice centre back. Whats even better is he is available at half price, due to only having one year left on his contract.

According to German media outlet Kicker, Freiburg will demand at least €10 million (around £9m) for Koch as he has only one year left on his contract. Unfortunately for the Whites, Leeds are not the only admirers of the former Kaiserslautern player. The 6ft 3' powerhouse has a range of admirers all across Europe, including Anfield! This is bound to drive the price up!





Kinnear - Elland Road should be a 50,000 capacity

Back in April Angus Kinnear stated that, should Leeds reach promotion back to the Premiership, the club would look into the expansion of Elland Road, with a potential new capacity of 50,000. Kinnear revisited the subject recently whilst being interviewed on The Extra Ball podcast. The question posed to him, was “should Leeds have a bigger stadium”. He said...

It feels like how it should be – Arsenal have got a waiting list [for season tickets], West Ham have got a waiting list – it feels like we should have a bigger stadium, the stadium should be at 50,000 [capacity]. That is now a further part of our plans.

I think what’s also great is you have the hardcore fanbase, but it is also great for the city as well – to walk through the city and people to feel proud about what’s happened and what they’re part of. The way the club was run historically was almost a source of embarrassment for people who perhaps weren’t fans, but just didn’t have the club that the city deserved.




Leeds favourites to land Harry Wilson

Leeds have emerged as favourites to land Harry Wilson from Anfield. The attacking midfielder / winger wants regular first team football having been sent out on loan in recent times to Derby and Bournemouth. Even though the 23 year old earned himself rave reviews at the Cherries, both player and club realise that his Anfield days are over.

Liverpool have slapped a £20 million price tag on Wilson. They know that a host of Premiership clubs are monitoring the situation, and if Leeds hesitate, Newcastle, Crystal Palace and Southampton are all waiting on the sidelines to step in!


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seems to be going around the world and then back to harry wilson, much rather have cabral or basturayi.
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20m for Harry Wilson? Absolutely ridiculous. What does he do other than score the odd free kick?
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£9m for Koch? Jesus. Why are we willing to overpay for White? Get him in immediately.
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At last kinnear has said there is no danger of JKA ever coming back to elland road. phew thats a relief
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Koch looks quality, so would be happy with him but White would be my preferred for continuity's sake. He clearly desperately wants to play for us, you can't buy that sort of commitment to club.
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Scoobychief wrote: ↑Tue Aug 18, 2020 8:52 am At last kinnear has said there is no danger of JKA ever coming back to elland road. phew thats a relief
By the time we pay his club, his salary and the lawyers we won't have change from £30M.

But hey we are in the Premier League.

This debacle makes Ridsdale look frugal.
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SG90 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 18, 2020 8:37 am £9m for Koch? Jesus. Why are we willing to overpay for White? Get him in immediately.
A German international too

I'd snap him up even if we signed Ben White at that price
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mothbanquet wrote: ↑Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:21 am Koch looks quality, so would be happy with him but White would be my preferred for continuity's sake. He clearly desperately wants to play for us, you can't buy that sort of commitment to club.
White loves Leeds & the comradeship he's built up with our group of players

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mothbanquet wrote: ↑Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:21 am Koch looks quality, so would be happy with him but White would be my preferred for continuity's sake. He clearly desperately wants to play for us, you can't buy that sort of commitment to club.
Is White really worth 13m more though ?
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Phil Hay is not telling us anything new there. We know young Ben wants to come to Leeds and that Brighton are playing hard ball. I’m glad we have not offered anymore than £22m so far and hope that we won’t be tempted to do so. If Liverpool, Manure or anybody else offers more say £25m then so be it - Koch seems a reasonable option.

I don’t know whether Brighton would be able to insist he goes to the club with the highest offer or whether he can insist he comes to Leeds even though we have offered less. Does anyone know what the protocol would be in this situation?

Wouldn’t Harry Wilson come as an attacking midfielder rather than as a striker meaning that Cabral could still come in as a striker?

Making Elland Road a 50000 capacity stadium would be about the right size. The problem being that during the construction phase the capacity would have to be substantially reduced from the 37000 it is now - just when you don’t want it to be. Oh well you can’t make an omelette without breaking eggs, as they say!
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CHAPELALLMAN wrote: ↑Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:40 am Is White really worth 13m more though ?
You mean £31m more! :oops:
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Koch, Cabral, Almada and Nandez would be my dream for this transfer window :love:

9+15+12+32=68m - roughly speaking, but that's the price tags I've seen floating about.
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Freiburg now asking 20 M Euros for Koch, as they have multiple clubs interested inc Spurs. At least Hay has binned the rumour that was in the Sun yesterday.
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How many articles has Phil Hay written about Ben White now? :sleep: It's embarrassing, especially as there's been no update since we had two bids rejected.
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Kinnear on Augustin


“Unfortunately, we thought we could have been just the right opportunity for Jean-Kevin Augustin at the right time.

“Unfortunately, it just didn’t work out, it didn’t fit with what Marcelo wanted in training, I don’t think Jean-Kevin could step up to the level we wanted him to.

“So, he’s moved back to RB Leipzig and he’s not a player who’s going to feature for Leeds United anymore.”

Asked where that left Leeds in relation to the £18m obligation to buy, Kinnear said, “Our position is very clear, we want Jean-Kevin to be successful, but it’s not going to be at Leeds United and we’re very clear on that.
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Regarding JKA - all that overblown fanfare on social media seems a tad silly now, doesn't it?
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SG90 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 18, 2020 8:37 am £9m for Koch? Jesus. Why are we willing to overpay for White? Get him in immediately.
I agree. Having a big Koch would be awesome.
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BobHirst wrote: ↑Tue Aug 18, 2020 2:29 pm I agree. Having a big Koch would be awesome.
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Starting to feel like it's time to move on from Ben. Great player for us this season past, but we can't be held to ranson by Brighton, put all our eggs in one basket to then be gazumped by some of the big boys at the last minute and left with one starting CH. Koch even at €20m looks a more viable option currently. We do need to get our business done sharpish or any new recruits won't be integrated for the first month or 6 weeks of the season.

£20m for Wilson is madness, not worth that. I've never been that overly impressed on the few occasions I've seen him.
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