Everton v Leeds Utd Match Thread - An open game in the early stages at Goodison Park

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Everton v Leeds United
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0–1
Premier League
28/11/2020
Goodison Park
Leeds United
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All-time record vs Everton
124
Played
53
Won
35
Drawn
36
Lost
+14
GD
43%
Win %
Away record
61
Played
14
Won
18
Drawn
29
Lost
-43
GD
23%
Win %
DateGroundScoreCompetition
25/09/2012 Elland Road 2–1 W Capital One Cup 3rd Round ↗
13/04/2004 Elland Road 1–1 D Premier League ↗
28/09/2003 Goodison Park 4–0 L Premier League ↗
01/02/2003 Goodison Park 2–0 L Premier League ↗
03/11/2002 Elland Road 0–1 L Premier League ↗
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1 Peter Lorimer 8
2 Billy Bremner 6
3 Gordon Hodgson 5
4 Allan Clarke 5
5 Mick Jones 5
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Def Ayling
Def Koch
Def Cooper ©
Def Dallas
Mid Phillips
Mid Klich
Def Alioski
Mid Harrison
For Bamford
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SUB Costa
SUB Moreno
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whiteswan wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 11:02 pm Observation.....
We won today, but how many were calling for Bielsa to change things before we scored?
Me, and that doesn't mean I'm wrong nor others who said Rodrigo must start.
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So if Dallas is a must start and Alio possibly the best defender over the last two games, where does Rodrigo get in...You can't start 12 players

Madely played a lot because we rarely had our first 11 fit...but woukld he have if

Reaney
Cooper
Charlton
Hunter
Bremner
Giles
Gray
Lorimer
Jones
Clarke

are all fit week in week out...
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faaip wrote: ↑Sun Nov 29, 2020 3:37 pm So if Dallas is a must start and Alio possibly the best defender over the last two games, where does Rodrigo get in...You can't start 12 players

Madely played a lot because we rarely had our first 11 fit...but woukld he have if

Reaney
Cooper
Charlton
Hunter
Bremner
Giles
Gray
Lorimer
Jones
Clarke

are all fit week in week out...
agree

think it will take a poor performance or two from alio (or possibly dallas?) to let rodrigo back in the starting 11, the rest seem pretty much nailed on starters
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faaip wrote: ↑Sun Nov 29, 2020 3:37 pm So if Dallas is a must start and Alio possibly the best defender over the last two games, where does Rodrigo get in...You can't start 12 players

Madely played a lot because we rarely had our first 11 fit...but woukld he have if

Reaney
Cooper
Charlton
Hunter
Bremner
Giles
Gray
Lorimer
Jones
Clarke

are all fit week in week out...
Great problem to have.
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Meslier
Ayling
Alioski
Koch
Cooper/Llorente
Phillips
Klich
Raphinha/Costa
Harrison
Dallas/Rodrigo/Hernandez
Bamford

Should all be starting
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SG90 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 29, 2020 12:34 pm Lol. Isn't he an Everton fan anyway?
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I think Rodrigo comes on for Bamford next time. I'm itching to see him play up top. It may not work but i won't rest until i see it with my own eyes. :)
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faaip wrote: ↑Sun Nov 29, 2020 3:37 pm So if Dallas is a must start and Alio possibly the best defender over the last two games, where does Rodrigo get in...You can't start 12 players

Madely played a lot because we rarely had our first 11 fit...but woukld he have if

Reaney
Cooper
Charlton
Hunter
Bremner
Giles
Gray
Lorimer
Jones
Clarke

are all fit week in week out...
Rodrigo can also play as a right winger, and Raphina can play as a left winger. Given that we often fail to get a final product from both Costa and Harrison, it would be interesting to try a new combination of wingers. I know that lots of people on here think that Harrison is a fantastic player, however to be an effective winger you need more than a great first touch and good close control. We also need the wingers to contribute with goals, and maybe Rodrigo and Raphina could provide this. Rodrigo is also supposed to provide competition for the no 9 shirt - what if Paddy has now embarked on another 10 to 12 game non-scoring run, as he has been prone to in the past ?
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CHAPELALLMAN wrote: ↑Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:00 pm Rodrigo can also play as a right winger, and Raphina can play as a left winger. Given that we often fail to get a final product from both Costa and Harrison, it would be interesting to try a new combination of wingers. I know that lots of people on here think that Harrison is a fantastic player, however to be an effective winger you need more than a great first touch and good close control. We also need the wingers to contribute with goals, and maybe Rodrigo and Raphina could provide this. Rodrigo is also supposed to provide competition for the no 9 shirt - what if Paddy has now embarked on another 10 to 12 game non-scoring run, as he has been prone to in the past ?
What if Chelsea get Messi as is rumoured...should we just give the trophy to Chelski now?

Eddy Gray used to average 4 /5 goals a season... did he not contribute enough?

Paddy has had 2 disallowed lasyt couple of games...1 every one and his dog says never should have been declined , and the other he wasn't the one off side...

Just saying...
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CHAPELALLMAN wrote: ↑Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:00 pm Rodrigo can also play as a right winger, and Raphina can play as a left winger. Given that we often fail to get a final product from both Costa and Harrison, it would be interesting to try a new combination of wingers. I know that lots of people on here think that Harrison is a fantastic player, however to be an effective winger you need more than a great first touch and good close control. We also need the wingers to contribute with goals, and maybe Rodrigo and Raphina could provide this. Rodrigo is also supposed to provide competition for the no 9 shirt - what if Paddy has now embarked on another 10 to 12 game non-scoring run, as he has been prone to in the past ?
Costa - Klich - Harrison

Not one goal between them in eight games

You hear of strikers having a goal drought but not the bulk of a teams midfield
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Rodrigo was on the wings at valencia and he was useless there, he is a striker and needs to be in the box.
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"Paddy has had 2 disallowed last couple of games...1 everyone and his dog says never should have been declined , and the other he wasn't the one off side..."

and the one against Everton was a cool, quick thinking stiker's finish.
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DavidH wrote: ↑Mon Nov 30, 2020 9:32 am "Paddy has had 2 disallowed last couple of games...1 everyone and his dog says never should have been declined , and the other he wasn't the one off side..."

and the one against Everton was a cool, quick thinking stiker's finish.
Paddy is not the main problem, god knows where we'd be without him this season.

Klich needs to put his bootlaces through the ball
Jack needs to aim for the space beween the sticks
Costa needs to be a bit more clever
Alioski, Dallas, Phillips need to keep their body shape straighter rather than hit them high & wide
Koch, Cooper & Ayling need to win the ball in the air more often at corners & head on target

All of them are culpable for missing far too many chances!
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faaip wrote: ↑Sun Nov 29, 2020 3:17 pm Me, and that doesn't mean I'm wrong nor others who said Rodrigo must start.
Me too. I was hoping for Rodrigo to come on at half time.
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1964white wrote: ↑Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:30 pm Costa - Klich - Harrison

Not one goal between them in eight games

You hear of strikers having a goal drought but not the bulk of a teams midfield
Exactly.
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1964white wrote: ↑Mon Nov 30, 2020 10:26 am Paddy is not the main problem, god knows where we'd be without him this season.

Klich needs to put his bootlaces through the ball
Jack needs to aim for the space beween the sticks
Costa needs to be a bit more clever
Alioski, Dallas, Phillips need to keep their body shape straighter rather than hit them high & wide
Koch, Cooper & Ayling need to win the ball in the air more often at corners & head on target

All of them are culpable for missing far too many chances!
I agree. Paddy has vastly improved this season so far in terms of his finishing, though if he is having a poor game I would like to see Rodrigo brought on instead. Surely coaching can help improve the finishing of the players you have mentioned ? Harrison seems to aim for the sticks....
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Smudge3920 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:12 pm What if Chelsea get Messi as is rumoured...should we just give the trophy to Chelski now?

Eddy Gray used to average 4 /5 goals a season... did he not contribute enough?

Paddy has had 2 disallowed lasyt couple of games...1 every one and his dog says never should have been declined , and the other he wasn't the one off side...

Just saying...
Eddy was injured most of the time...
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1964white wrote: Costa - Klich - Harrison

Not one goal between them in eight games

You hear of strikers having a goal drought but not the bulk of a teams midfield
Logically if your top goal scorer fails to get on the score sheet then it is a tall order to ask lesser mortals to accomplish a task that has proved too difficult for him.

Nothing to discuss here... move along quietly now... and remember regardless of our strike rate or where it comes from we have taken points off Manchester City and Arsenal as well as Carlo Ancelotti’s side.

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