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Good Morning. It's Friday 28th May, and here are the latest headlines from Elland Road...


City to target Phillips as Fernandinho successor

When you're on of the richest clubs in the World, you only want the very best - nothing else will do; even if it means treading on your friends toes to get them. We have all heard about the friendship and huge admiration that Bielsa and Guardiola have for each other but what happens when they want something that you 've got?

Kalvin Phillips is in the prime of his life. His transition from Championship to the top flight has been seamless, he has become an England regular and he has won the admiration of millions. On the back of another Premiership title, Guardiola will already be plotting where he can make further improvements to his side, so they don't become another Liverpool.

Fernandinho has been an amazing servant to the Blues since his arrival in 2013, but at 36, surely his best days are behind him. Could Guardiola tempt Phillips to the Etihad with promises of £100,000 a week, Champion League football, title races and silverware? Former City ace Steve Howey believes the blue side of Manchester could be targeting Phillips this Summer, stating...

He could well be. I actually had a conversation with Gareth Southgate about him and I said I was blown away [over] how good he was. We were at Everton and I watched Everton against Leeds and he was excellent. He ran the show.

It looks like Phillips will be fit for the Euro's in just over two weeks time when England kick off against Croatia. Leeds have released footage of the 25 year old being put through his paces with strenuous upper body, shoulder and arm workouts. If he performs well this Summer, his profile and price tag could swell to astronomical proportions, but at what point if any, should Leeds cash in?





Orta opens up on the Phil Hay show

Leeds United’s director of football Victor Orta has been speaking exclusively on The Phil Hay show, and has revealed that he wants to conclude all transfer business in the next five weeks, talks about his relationship with Bielsa, an has an Alioski update. Orta said...

We have a very clear situation. You need to always be ready. It’s a difficult market. We obviously have ideas about planning that we are going to try to follow. Like we discussed last summer, we prefer quality over quantity. In the end the quality can give us a value that we have that we are making right away. “We are finishing ninth in the best competition in the world, the most difficult competition in the world. In order to improve that we need to be really, really clear on what we decide. I still have a long month of June ahead. I hope that in June, we can try and finish the job. We can make the effort but as we’ve said before it’s not always in our control.

What did Orta say about Bielsa?

Now it’s easy to say but when he started, I received 200 messages from the world of football saying ‘You are crazy’. The club’s director was also eager to praise not just the manager but the whole team at Leeds United. For me, we work with the coach to try and enrich his work like data football. We are in service of the coach, we try to create the best environment for success. I give a lot of credit to the club.

I know obviously Bielsa was the masterpiece in a situation but I give credit to the club, to Mark Broadley (facilities manager) Angus Kinnear (managing director), Paul Bell (executive director) and James Mooney (press officer). Without the help of a lot of people in the club aligning to help in these circumstances, we are not here. And that is when I discovered the real values of Leeds United.

And what about Alioski?

I don’t know, the contract is until June 13. We’re very happy with Ezgjan. He understands our position. I understand his position. I think the last few days we have had a good conversation face to face, but it’s really necessary. I asked him three things. His answer was really pleasing to me. He needs to decide about his own ideas, how he wants to be as a player next year.




Leeds clear the decks

The Whites retained list for the following season was released yesterday, confirming the departures of several first team and academy players. Leaving the club are Hernandez, Berardi, Bouy, Douglas, O'Kane and youngsters Cole Gibbon, Niklas Haugland and Matthew Turner. Leeds will also release eight scholars this summer, namely: Emmanuel Amissah, Jimiel Chikukwa, William Fewster, Ethan Kachosa, Samuel Leverett, Aaron Pilkington, Maximus Rigby and Cooper Skerry. Alfie Hughes, Owen Bray and Taylor Ragan have all had their scholarships extended. It was also revealed that a contract renewal for Alioski remains on he table!

Is there anyone you would add or take off the list?


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Former City ace Steve Howey...

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No doubt top clubs will be interested in Phillips, he has proved without question his quality at the top level.

I think the key to kicking on is keeping hold of the likes of Phillips and Raphinha. They are both on long term deals, 3 years left to run on their contracts, so the ball is very much in our court.
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YorkshireSquare wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 8:13 am Steve Howey has never been ace at anything!
It's my creative journalistic reporting :lol:
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YorkshireSquare wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 8:16 am No doubt top clubs will be interested in Phillips, he has proved without question his quality at the top level.

I think the key to kicking on is keeping hold of the likes of Phillips and Raphinha. They are both on long term deals, 3 years left to run on their contracts, so the ball is very much in our court.
It is, but theoretically if we were offered 75-100m, would that be too good to turn down?
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Good morning EB et all

Kalvin loves Leeds the club and the city, he loves living in Farnley and his mum and family still live in Bramley, all his mates from school that he still hangs about with are based in and around Farnley/Bramley. His girlfriend since their school days comes from Farnley and her family live around here.

He loves the club and the fans, he knows that Bielsa has helped make him the player he is today and boy would he love Leeds to win the Premier League and be part of that.

But imagine if some one comes in with an offer that the club can't refuse (£60m+) he 100% would never join the red side of Manchester but the blue :duno:
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Morning Folks.

Our best players and the temptation to move.
It will always be there. Even before the spectre of the mega rich owner arose Leeds at times had to work hard at offering something more than a fat pay check, they worked hard at selling themselves in other ways to draw and retain talent.
Our two best draws KP and Raph will attract interest.
I for one think we will keep them. This season.
However a lot will depend on how we do next time.
Will we be in Europe? Will we have Bielsa? Will we have strengthened our squad?
Also unless new contracts will have been agreed, only 2 years will remain on KP and Raph deals.
Those issues may loom large on the minds of our best performers.
After all every player wants medals.
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Does it mean Jay-Roy Grot and Laurens De Bock will be back with us this summer?
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Chilli D wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 8:43 am Does it mean Jay-Roy Grot and Lauren's De Bock will be back with us this summer?
Yep,

Both have a year to run on their contracts
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This is a part of the dreaded 'second season syndrome', richer clubs swooping in to nab your star players. Maybe we'll be in for a few shocks this summer but let's face it, we've not had this kind of drama for a long while.

Maybe this is simple idealism but I think the whole Superleague saga has actually made quite a few footballers re-evaluate their attitudes towards money in the game, or at least their public images concerning it. So many star names stepping forward to speak out/demonstrate against the Rich Six may have been PR or it may not have been but that idealistic part of me thinks the Leeds project represents part of a swing in attitude, with players wanting to be part of this nascent dawn of competition versus profit.
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It is a positive sign that the sides higher up the league than us are interested in our players.

Of course, Leeds fans are (perhaps rightly) scarred by the years of poor management of contracts and us flogging off our best talent to the first bidder, and replacing them with utter shite. Usually on excessive wages and long term deals.

Though at least as a club we don't have the likes of Pennington, Baker & Blackman still on the books beyond the age of 25.
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Chilli D wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 8:43 am Does it mean Jay-Roy Grot and Laurens De Bock will be back with us this summer?

Groy joined VfL Osnabrück on a free transfer back in February

De Bock's loan expires on Jun 30th but Zulte Waregem have an option to buy. His Leeds contract expires in June 2022
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Was encouraged by Orta suggesting they aim to complete all transfer business by the end of June in time for pre season.

Not worried about City going for KP, cant see that.
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YorkshireSquare wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 10:18 am Groy joined VfL Osnabrück on a free transfer back in February

De Bock's loan expires on Jun 30th but Zulte Waregem have an option to buy. His Leeds contract expires in June 2022
Thanks for the update YS.
I couldn't remember what the situation was with those two.
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Could Guardiola tempt Phillips to the Etihad with promises of £100,000 a week, Champion League football, title races and silverware?

Does anyone know what time the next train to Manchester is. :)

Decent of Orta to spread the love. When you have the top brass speaking like that it can only work its way down through the club. That's one of the benefits i feel we have at the moment, good communication throughout the club, unlike some of the others (ESL)

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I think we will retain Phillips and Rapha (and other key players) for the forthcoming season. After that, all bets are off. Rapha would be the first to go just because he does not have the pure emotional connection with the club and the city like Kalvin. But a short commute for Kalvin to the rainier side of the Pennines is not difficult (unless it's snowing like hell on M62 up o'er Ripponden) so it isn't beyond the realms of possibility.
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