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- 1964white
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Leeds1000
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Re: Covid passports
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rab_rant
Re: Covid passports
WHO Latest covid-19 warnings.
https://metro.co.uk/video/who-chief-war ... o=vjs-link
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- 1964white
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Re: Covid passports
Inevitable!rab_rant wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:30 pm WHO Latest covid-19 warnings.
https://metro.co.uk/video/who-chief-war ... o=vjs-link
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Heaving with people here in Cornwall with 1000's of young people whom haven't had their vaccinations behaving as if the last fifteen months didn't exist.
Never known it so busy in all the years we've been holidaying here, can't wait to return home to be honest.
August will be even more manic!
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rab_rant
Re: Covid passports
The WHO tell a joke about covid-19, and 99% of the people won't get it.
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Leeds1000
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Re: Covid passports
I can't wait until they stop testing and recording cases. Its not translating into deaths and that's what we all wanted. The symptoms from the so called Delta version are supposed to be similar to a cold (when i sneeze should i get tested)???
I believe The jab workers are working on a booster for the over 50's ready for winter along with the standard Flu jab. I keep hearing people say we are set for a bumper flu season, i'm not sure how people will know the difference? I just hope they make masks optional not mandatory.
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Leeds1000
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Great live Podcast here if anyone wants to watch. Not about Covid but covers some good cross the board topics.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLNtSjNBYFQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLNtSjNBYFQ
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whiteroseboy
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Re: Covid passports
Sadly when you've lost a close relative you realise it's very real.Leeds1000 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 5:03 pm I can't wait until they stop testing and recording cases. Its not translating into deaths and that's what we all wanted. The symptoms from the so called Delta version are supposed to be similar to a cold (when i sneeze should i get tested)???I believe The jab workers are working on a booster for the over 50's ready for winter along with the standard Flu jab. I keep hearing people say we are set for a bumper flu season, i'm not sure how people will know the difference? I just hope they make masks optional not mandatory.
Also talk to anyone that has suffered long covid it's a horrible thing but doesn't show on the death list.
Don't have the jabs it's your choice and good luck to you but don't keep preaching your beliefs to the vast majority that are more than happy to have them.
I just see the minority with their machine gun posts saying the same anti everything stuff all the time.
As I said if it's your belief its not real so be it but why the need to continually preach to others?
Count the posts on here and anyone can see the same 3 or 4 people continually post the same stuff over and over again and responsible for most of the thread. Say it once it means more.
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Leeds1000
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Re: Covid passports
Where did i say it wasn't real or that i have not had the jab? If you want to constantly live in fear that is your choice but spare a thought for the vast majority of people who want to get on with our lives.whiteroseboy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 5:28 pm Sadly when you've lost a close relative you realise it's very real.
Also talk to anyone that has suffered long covid it's a horrible thing but doesn't show on the death list.
Don't have the jabs it's your choice and good luck to you but don't keep preaching your beliefs to the vast majority that are more than happy to have them.
I just see the minority with their machine gun posts saying the same anti everything stuff all the time.
As I said if it's your belief its not real so be it but why the need to continually preach to others?
Count the posts on here and anyone can see the same 3 or 4 people continually post the same stuff over and over again and responsible for most of the thread. Say it once it means more.
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whiteroseboy
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You didn't say it wasn't real but you did liken it to a cold, Flu as you mentioned is nearer but nowhere near as dangerous especially to younger people. The difference with covid is the long term effect it can have on people's lungs.
Think we all agree we want to get on with our lives where have I said I'm against that. That's why the majority are more than happy to have the vaccination and come out of it safely.
Had my jabs so why do you say I live in fear?
No fear here and nothing in what I said suggests that.
My thoughts are we are winning the battle but the war against the virus isn't over so just need to tread carefully as we open up, why blow it.
Examples are the 2000 cases related to Scotland fans at the Euros reported this week and the increased numbers among Man City & Chelsea fans after returning from the Champions League final.
Expecting things to improve as the vaccination is available to all adults.
- 1964white
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You would think it's already optional here in St Ives, no one gives a chuff even though case rates have risen by a third over the last week.Leeds1000 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 5:03 pm I can't wait until they stop testing and recording cases. Its not translating into deaths and that's what we all wanted. The symptoms from the so called Delta version are supposed to be similar to a cold (when i sneeze should i get tested)???I believe The jab workers are working on a booster for the over 50's ready for winter along with the standard Flu jab. I keep hearing people say we are set for a bumper flu season, i'm not sure how people will know the difference? I just hope they make masks optional not mandatory.
Young people think they are invincible
- becchio bear
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My 15 year old son was pulled from school on Monday having apparently been in close contact with another pupil who has tested positive. He can't go back until next Tuesday. Yesterday had a lengthy letter by email from the school principal to say that over 65% of Year Ten pupils are self isolating together with 17 members of staff. He has reluctantly closed the school to Year Ten pupils until next Friday so it's back to online schooling. He's missed 2 of his mock GCSEs which will be taken at some point before school finishes for the Summer.
Covid rates are seemingly rife in Leeds at the moment.
Covid rates are seemingly rife in Leeds at the moment.
I'm going back to 505, I saw them at Sheffield and they were amazing.
- Smudge3920
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Everyone pushing the issue now to re-open is clouding the matter, sadly I doubt we will ever know the if it is safe or not anymore , well at least for a very long time.becchio bear wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 6:27 pm My 15 year old son was pulled from school on Monday having apparently been in close contact with another pupil who has tested positive. He can't go back until next Tuesday. Yesterday had a lengthy letter by email from the school principal to say that over 65% of Year Ten pupils are self isolating together with 17 members of staff. He has reluctantly closed the school to Year Ten pupils until next Friday so it's back to online schooling. He's missed 2 of his mock GCSEs which will be taken at some point before school finishes for the Summer.
Covid rates are seemingly rife in Leeds at the moment.
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Hope your lad is ok BB
- becchio bear
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So far no symptoms so fingers crossed it stays like that. A girl in his year was sent home last week, she was asymptomatic and has passed Covid to her dad who is very poorly, it is still real and it is still out there.Smudge3920 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 7:19 pm Everyone pushing the issue now to re-open is clouding the matter, sadly I doubt we will ever know the if it is safe or not anymore , well at least for a very long time.
Hope your lad is ok BB
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- 1964white
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Hope your son shows no symptoms Ang.becchio bear wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 6:27 pm My 15 year old son was pulled from school on Monday having apparently been in close contact with another pupil who has tested positive. He can't go back until next Tuesday. Yesterday had a lengthy letter by email from the school principal to say that over 65% of Year Ten pupils are self isolating together with 17 members of staff. He has reluctantly closed the school to Year Ten pupils until next Friday so it's back to online schooling. He's missed 2 of his mock GCSEs which will be taken at some point before school finishes for the Summer.
Covid rates are seemingly rife in Leeds at the moment.
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Until everybody is jabbed covid is always going to raise it's ugly head
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whiteroseboy
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BB, Got to be a worry but it is a sensible precaution, odds are very much with you but its still fingers crossed your son is OK.becchio bear wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 6:27 pm My 15 year old son was pulled from school on Monday having apparently been in close contact with another pupil who has tested positive. He can't go back until next Tuesday. Yesterday had a lengthy letter by email from the school principal to say that over 65% of Year Ten pupils are self isolating together with 17 members of staff. He has reluctantly closed the school to Year Ten pupils until next Friday so it's back to online schooling. He's missed 2 of his mock GCSEs which will be taken at some point before school finishes for the Summer.
Covid rates are seemingly rife in Leeds at the moment.
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Norm
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Re: Covid passports
A 'Flu jab could be a sensible precaution and Covid-19 is not much different, but I've never had a 'flu jab and I will probably never have a Covid-19 shot.
Why? Because my immune system seems to cope with the diseases and I've had BOTH. Why would I want to have a shot when my body has already coped with the disease?
Less hysteria is the answer
Why? Because my immune system seems to cope with the diseases and I've had BOTH. Why would I want to have a shot when my body has already coped with the disease?
Less hysteria is the answer
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Norm
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Sara, my position remains the same - I've had the disease, which was largely asymptomatic, except for a 1-time temperature spike to 105.6 degrees, followed by a restoration to 98.8 within 6 hours. Debbie and Michael have no symptoms despite being in close contact with me through the whole episode.
The only reason we would have Covid-19 shots is because it may be mandatory to get into England in the next few months.
All this BS about refusal to have a vaccination being anti-social and selfish is rubbish. Any airborne disease is there to be treated, primarily, by our own immune systems, and mine has proved that it can.
The only reason we would have Covid-19 shots is because it may be mandatory to get into England in the next few months.
All this BS about refusal to have a vaccination being anti-social and selfish is rubbish. Any airborne disease is there to be treated, primarily, by our own immune systems, and mine has proved that it can.
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whiteroseboy
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There is some facts in it that viruses can mutate due to vaccines however they will mutate anyway but it's a often debated point whether vaccines speed it up.Anonymous wrote: ↑Fri Jul 02, 2021 8:18 am There is a possibility that vaccinating into the pandemic is driving the creation of variants. I don't claim to understand the science, but it's an interesting listen:
https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/b ... 0518326960
In this case the current variants such as Delta, South African and Brazillian mutated before vaccines where widely administered in the regions they first appeared.
Even if mutations do happen in future partly caused by vaccines its actually quite easy to tweak things and keep on top.
Vaccines have helped control many global diseases such as Small Pox, Polio, and TB.
You will always get a few experts wanting their 15mins of Fame which some cling to but the majority of scientists think the vaccines are the way out as with the other things I mention.
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whiteroseboy
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Did I mention MRNa?Anonymous wrote: ↑Fri Jul 02, 2021 1:34 pm You can't compare the mRNA technology with traditional vaccines and assume it will have no issues on that basis; that's completely unscientific. We have a new, untried technology, being used in an unprecedented situation of a global rollout, in the midst of an ongoing pandemic. It is not possible to know the long term implications of that at this stage, which is why it is important to consider new research and evidence as it comes to light. Glib dismissals are irresponsible and in no one's interest.
Of course it was rushed through as thousands worldwide were losing their lives and suffering long term health effects.
I'm not disagreeing that it hasn't had long term trials and can't be 100% certain. What I do know having worked in the chemical development industry for over 30 years (wasn't a chemist though) that something like 98% of tests/trials are done in the early stages and its very very rare to have issues in long term trials.
Development of drugs/vaccines is costly and companies nowadays compared to in the past carry out far more tests and are as near as you get to certain as you can be before the long trials.
As I have said previously the choice is with all of us personally the quicker the virus is beaten the better in my view. It's personal with me to be honest and I hate seeing the death figures (close to 4 Mill worldwide and still growing). Pleased I had the vaccines