Norwich City v Leeds Utd Match Thread - Thank god for Raphinha!

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Norwich City v Leeds United
Norwich City
Norwich City
1–2
Premier League
31/10/2021
Carrow Road
Leeds United
Leeds United
All-time record vs Norwich City
68
Played
29
Won
19
Drawn
20
Lost
+13
GD
43%
Win %
Away record
33
Played
10
Won
10
Drawn
13
Lost
-5
GD
30%
Win %
DateGroundScoreCompetition
02/02/2019 Elland Road 1–3 L Championship ↗
25/08/2018 Carrow Road 0–3 W Championship ↗
28/04/2018 Carrow Road 2–1 L Championship ↗
16/12/2017 Elland Road 1–0 W Championship ↗
29/04/2017 Elland Road 3–3 D Championship ↗
All-time top scorers vs Norwich City
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1 Allan Clarke 5
2 Peter Lorimer 4
3 Joe Jordan 4
4 Rod Wallace 4
5 Lee Chapman 3
Starting XI
Goa Meslier
Def Cooper ©
Def Llorente
Def Struijk
For Moreno
Mid Phillips
Def Dallas
Mid James
Mid Harrison
Substitutes
SUB Forshaw
SUB Drameh
SUB Roberts
Unused Substitutes
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-- Gelhardt
-- Hjelde
-- Cresswell
-- Summerville
-- Klich
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Mountain wrote: ↑Sun Oct 31, 2021 4:36 pm Bamford adds so much to the team. Not just goals but defending from the front, pressing keepers etc. I think his absence hurts us not just in the midfield and wingers lacking the focal point of attack, but the first line of defence.
I agree there mountain, that's why I thought he would have put Gelhardt in that position instead of who ??????????
Once again, poor management.
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triple nutmeg for Raphinha's goal.
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Mountain wrote: ↑Sun Oct 31, 2021 4:36 pm Bamford adds so much to the team. Not just goals but defending from the front, pressing keepers etc. I think his absence hurts us not just in the midfield and wingers lacking the focal point of attack, but the first line of defence.
Spot on :tup: we miss Paddy terribly, an integral part of Bielsa'a team.
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Another problem is, we only have one special dangerous attacking player, other teams around us have 3 or 4 influential type players, not only the top six clubs
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Fantastic support

I'm four rows up from the steward stood at the bottom.


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What was the point of playing James & Harrison down the middle?

Didn't work.

Worse still was, we were bombing the ball in the air to Dan & Jack, absolutely pointless!

We have a star kid who would relish playing up top & is probably more proficient than those two in his natural position.

Also, when we are running the clock down in the last 15 minutes attempting to retain possession why do we play the ball back to our CB's who in turn passes it back to Meslier, who then boots the ball up field with the opposition winning the ball in the air & the ball coming back to us :( this is not Bielsa ball.
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I think the confidence is lower than we all think. We are not clever in ball retention and shear anxiety pressurises them into hoofing the ball upfield. If they're like this in October/November what will they be like come March/April/May if we're still down there. They need a decent result against Leicester to help the confidence .

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1964white wrote: ↑Mon Nov 01, 2021 8:38 am What was the point of playing James & Harrison down the middle?

Didn't work.

Worse still was, we were bombing the ball in the air to Dan & Jack, absolutely pointless!

We have a star kid who would relish playing up top & is probably more proficient than those two in his natural position.

Also, when we are running the clock down in the last 15 minutes attempting to retain possession why do we play the ball back to our CB's who in turn passes it back to Meslier, who then boots the ball up field with the opposition winning the ball in the air & the ball coming back to us :( this is not Bielsa ball.
Thats probably why Bielsa was sat with head to the ground at final whistle thinking, what the f@ck are they doing ??
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1964white wrote: ↑Mon Nov 01, 2021 8:05 am Fantastic support

I'm four rows up from the steward stood at the bottom.



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What are you wearing?
And do you mean the steward this side of barrier... :duno:
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mentalcase wrote: ↑Mon Nov 01, 2021 10:13 am Thats probably why Bielsa was sat with head to the ground at final whistle thinking, what the f@ck are they doing ??
Just can't understand the logic with our play this season.

Over the last three seasons, it was all about press the opposition, hold the ball up top, pass & move the ball quickly, retain the ball, catch teams on the break, create many chances.

Now, I haven't got a clue about our game plan :duno:

We've resorted to hoof football, head tennis, sloppy passing, creating fewer chances & very rarely breaking from a defensive position to score goals.
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whiteswan wrote: ↑Mon Nov 01, 2021 1:25 pm What are you wearing?
And do you mean the steward this side of barrier... :duno:
The only one stood at the bottom at pitch level, Swannie

Without getting a magnifying glass out, I very much doubt you could pick me out of the crowd :lol:
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1964white wrote: ↑Mon Nov 01, 2021 1:34 pm The only one stood at the bottom at pitch level, Swannie

Without getting a magnifying glass out, I very much doubt you could pick me out of the crowd :lol:
I intend to give it a go.... :lol:
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Someone wearing blue/black to your right ( as we look at the photo) got their arm up?
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whiteswan wrote: ↑Mon Nov 01, 2021 1:37 pm I intend to give it a go.... :lol:
Let me know when you find me :lol:
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whiteswan wrote: ↑Mon Nov 01, 2021 1:43 pm Someone wearing blue/black to your right ( as we look at the photo) got their arm up?
Black parka (maybe unzipped) with a grey hoodie underneath.
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1964white wrote: ↑Mon Nov 01, 2021 1:26 pm Just can't understand the logic with our play this season.

Over the last three seasons, it was all about press the opposition, hold the ball up top, pass & move the ball quickly, retain the ball, catch teams on the break, create many chances.

Now, I haven't got a clue about our game plan :duno:

We've resorted to hoof football, head tennis, sloppy passing, creating fewer chances & very rarely breaking from a defensive position to score goals.
In the main this season, teams are sitting further back against us in in two banks of four leaving two up, but those two aren’t pressing our centre backs but letting us have the ball.
Because of this, their two forwards have become midfielders to an extent and because we go man to man, when the opposition drop deep, their edge of the box is very congested so our centre backs look for an outlet that’s not always there.
When we do go longer to bypass this we lose possession more and if they clear the ball carefully, it goes to the two forward/midfielders who are deeper, who then attack us in a 2 v 3 situation which makes it look like we don’t have a midfield (we do, but they are further forwards which exposes our system)
The better teams have exploited this quick change over and scored a few ie Liverpool and scum.
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1964white wrote: ↑Mon Nov 01, 2021 1:26 pm Just can't understand the logic with our play this season.

Over the last three seasons, it was all about press the opposition, hold the ball up top, pass & move the ball quickly, retain the ball, catch teams on the break, create many chances.

Now, I haven't got a clue about our game plan :duno:

We've resorted to hoof football, head tennis, sloppy passing, creating fewer chances & very rarely breaking from a defensive position to score goals.
Teams have worked us out a bit, better players have the measure of ours a bit more.

Our Championship core all in and around 30 regressing to a more natural level rather than being able to keep up 100% all the time.

What i mean by that is if Messi over the years is having a crap game he could still impact a game with 2 or 3 bright moments of talent and class but less gifted players cant so they have to be on it 100% or they struggle.

Lack of midfield doesnt help, many factors playing a part imo but the main issue is one highlighted in the summer, we needed an overhaul.

Now realise i havent actually answered the question :lol:

I would say lack of confidence.
Teams working us out more and forcing js to change approach.
A lack of quality in midfield.
Fans back putting pressure on
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Good points Finn & Cjay :tup:
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1964white wrote: ↑Mon Nov 01, 2021 1:49 pm Let me know when you find me :lol:

Maybe you're in this lot.
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