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Covid passports

Yes
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44%
No
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49%
Don't know
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7%
 
Total votes: 45

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Here's your ex-nurse who you seem to put so much faith in suggesting otherwise.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fr70snfnMGw

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rab_rant wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 6:51 am
Some people have no conception of the minuteness of things. Masks are to give the frightened a sense of security... and are about as much use as a bunch of garlic to ward off Dracula.

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Stroke patients are dying in ambulances because beds are blocked by unvaccinated Covid patients.

Because unvaccinated Covid patients are taking up their beds!!!

Simply because the unvaccinated couldn't be bothered to get a 5 second jab.

Shameful.
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john1931 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 9:22 am So you agree that it's a good idea to get vaccinated?
No I am saying mandates that say no jab no job strips the individual of certain unalienable rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

Taking the jab is not hard... it is easy... too easy, with complience comes privilege. I know someone who has had corona and has natural immunity, and don't particularly need or want the jab, yet they are going to get it because they want the green pass so they can travel.

What is hard is to belong to the group that does not want the vaccine. The pressure on them is relentless.
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rab_rant wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 9:44 am No I am saying mandates that say no jab no job strips the individual of certain unalienable rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

Taking the jab is not hard... it is easy... too easy, with complience comes privilege. I know someone who has had corona and has natural immunity, and don't particularly need or want the jab, yet they are going to get it because they want the green pass so they can travel.

What is hard is to belong to the group that does not want the vaccine. The pressure on them is relentless.

The pressure on the unvaccinated is relentless?
Boo hoo.....are you for real?

Get your priorities right.....big deal if "the someone you know" has to get the jab.
Just get it and think about others.

The NHS is under relentless pressure as are the vaccinated patients denied a bed by those selfish non jabbed.

All because Joe Public couldn't get off their lazy ar5e to get a jab.

Sickening.

I despair at the selfishness in this world.
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john1931 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 9:31 am Stroke patients are dying in ambulances because beds are blocked by unvaccinated Covid patients.

Because unvaccinated Covid patients are taking up their beds!!!

Simply because the unvaccinated couldn't be bothered to get a 5 second jab.

Shameful.
It is truly disgraceful, John

Covid in the UK should have more or less been eradicated by now, meanwhile we have heart/stroke/cancer patients being denied treatment as the NHS is under severe pressure.

One of our neighbours (a client of mine) was told he had to wait four hours for an ambulance when he broke his leg at 10.30pm last week, fortunately his family got him to the hospital, his family was advised by medics who live next door to go to Scarborough as Hull hospital were short of beds.

Right now, one can't afford to have an accident or be ill because of the current circumstances in some parts of the UK.
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john1931 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 9:31 am Stroke patients are dying in ambulances because beds are blocked by unvaccinated Covid patients.

Because unvaccinated Covid patients are taking up their beds!!!

Simply because the unvaccinated couldn't be bothered to get a 5 second jab.

Shameful.
1)Patently not true. You are just as likey to need hospital beds for both vaccinated and unvaccinated.
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2) You use the appeal to emotion argumet, In which you demonize the unvacinated.

3) I am a stroke patient and was taken to a special unit without delay. Covid patients on the otherhand are taken to a special quarantine ward and are kept in isolation.

4)Where do you get your facts to substantiate your claims?
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1964white wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 10:31 am It is truly disgraceful, John

Covid in the UK should have more or less been eradicated by now, meanwhile we have heart/stroke/cancer patients being denied treatment as the NHS is under severe pressure.

One of our neighbours (a client of mine) was told he had to wait four hours for an ambulance when he broke his leg at 10.30pm last week, fortunately his family got him to the hospital, his family was advised by medics who live next door to go to Scarborough as Hull hospital were short of beds.

Right now, one can't afford to have an accident or be ill because of the current circumstances in some parts of the UK.

And all this blame is laid at the door of the unvaccinated.

Could it not be because of government mandates that require all NHS staff to be vaccinated, and this is causing staff shortages. It is estimated between 80,000 and 100,000 NHS workers remain unvaccinated.

The government has made a rod for their own back.
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rab_rant wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 10:59 am Could it not be because of government mandates that require all NHS staff to be vaccinated, and this is causing staff shortages. It is estimated between 80,000 and 100,000 NHS workers remain unvaccinated.
My dear mum who was a Sister at Leeds Infirmary & St James & also a midwife too in her 60 years of nursing care will be turning in her grave :(

We had proper nurses then who put their patients first & not themselves.

Oh, & nurses used to look like nurses, not dressed in pyjamas :roll:

RIP Mum.
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Keep this thread open.
We need some entertainment in the international break.
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WestgateRun wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 11:37 am Keep this thread open.
We need some entertainment in the international break.
:rol: :rol: :rol: :rol:
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The poor unvaccinated....the sooner the Austrian model is brought in the better.

Time for that rod,Rab.
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Anonymous wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 12:43 pm So, according to you, the only reasons for not having the vaccine are laziness and selfishness?

No consideration for those with natural immunity, or preventative health conditions, or the differing risk/benefit equations for different age groups?

Just laziness and selfishness.

And this is a 'scientific fact', I suppose, and in no way just a projection of your prejudices.

The poor unvaccinated....the sooner the Austrian model is brought in the better.

Time for that rod,Sarah
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I have had my say....and you don't like it....I am right.....you will say I am wrong.....and the Covid hamster wheel will continue to spin as long because you bury your heads in the sand and keep it alive.

Bye bye from this triple vaccinated human being who did his bit for society.

No point trying to make the blind see.


COMMUNITY BEFORE SELF..... GET VACCINATED !!!!
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john1931 wrote: Bye bye from this triple vaccinated human being who did his bit for society.
Since vaccinated people can still catch Covid so what exactly have you done for society? Do you see yourself as a hero?

And if you do catch Covid, I hope you receive compassion, and are not met with prejudices that you have become a spreader...and the NHS will still have a bed for you... just as for anybody vaccinated or unvaçcinated.

As we judge others so we ourselves shall be judged



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rab_rant wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 2:40 pm Since vaccinated people can still catch Covid so what exactly have you done for society? Do you see yourself as a hero?

And if you do catch Covid, I hope you receive compassion, and are not met with prejudices that you have become a spreader...and the NHS will still have a bed for you... just as for anybody vaccinated or unvaçcinated.

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I caught Covid in October 21 but being vaccinated stopped me from unnecessarily taking up a hospital bed.....that was my wee bit for society.
Small, but multiply it with millions of others and it makes a hell of a difference to the NHS.
I am no hero....just doing what is right.

Prejudice?
Don't make me laugh..... it's called integrity.

These unvaccinated have been given plenty of time and they have stuck two fingers up at the vast majority.
Time for the worm to turn.

Your short sightedness astounds and angers me.
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john1931 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 14, 2021 11:24 pm Why should the unvaccinated unnecessarily take up the hospital beds?

They had the choice....they knew better....and not only are they paying the price...I have zero sympathy.....their rotten attitude is stopping others who needed those beds.

And what mammoth task were they asked to undertake....yep....a jab in the arm.

Would be interesting to see how many of these expert unvaccinated would have taken the jab if there was a nice wee envelope stuffed with money in it.

Absolute disgrace.....pure selfishness.

The stick is needed.....the rancid carrot is beginning to rot.
By the gods, get off your high horse for a minute. There are also vaccinated folk in the hospitals. It's hardly 'pure selfishness' people have a right in regard to what they want injecting into their bodies.
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Overman wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 4:17 pm By the gods, get off your high horse for a minute. There are also vaccinated folk in the hospitals. It's hardly 'pure selfishness' people have a right in regard to what they want injecting into their bodies.
COMMUNITY BEFORE SELF..... GET VACCINATED !!!!
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john1931 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 1:12 pm I have had my say....and you don't like it....I am right.....you will say I am wrong.....and the Covid hamster wheel will continue to spin as long because you bury your heads in the sand and keep it alive.

Bye bye from this triple vaccinated human being who did his bit for society.

No point trying to make the blind see.


COMMUNITY BEFORE SELF..... GET VACCINATED !!!!
How old are you? Surely this is not Smudge in disguise.
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john1931 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 3:53 pm I caught Covid in October 21 but being vaccinated stopped me from unnecessarily taking up a hospital bed.....that was my wee bit for society.
Small, but multiply it with millions of others and it makes a hell of a difference to the NHS.
I am no hero....just doing what is right.

Prejudice?
Don't make me laugh..... it's called integrity.

These unvaccinated have been given plenty of time and they have stuck two fingers up at the vast majority.
Time for the worm to turn.

Your short sightedness astounds and angers me.
Well said John.

Since it looks like this thread is going to remain open and I am too unintelligent to understand Sara's non conspiracy theory posts, I am going to take her advice and stop reading and commenting on this thread.
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BobHirst wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 4:33 pm Well said John.

Since it looks like this thread is going to remain open and I am too unintelligent to understand Sara's non conspiracy theory posts, I am going to take her advice and stop reading and commenting on this thread.

I know....I think I will do the same (again).

Head brick wall.....ahh well,I tried.
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