West Ham Utd v Leeds Utd. 3rd Round FA Cup

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FA Cup, 3rd Round
09/01/2022
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Cjay wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 4:01 pm Lots of effort and what not.

Nice to see the u23s.

It's blatantly obvious we overrate most of them, Greenwood, Drameh, Bate aren't ready, Hjelde did OK.

Lack of quality is obvious and even with a fully fit squad as we had vs Newcastle earlier this season its still clear.

VAR robbed us and Wet Spam.do love a dive but they had more quality overall.
I think Summerville should be persisted with on a regular basis. I would like to see more of him. He is certainly no less a threat than Harrison or James. He is more dangerous on the ball IMO and is better at one on one.
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Ellandbach wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 4:09 pm Considering the team we put out today I thought we did well. Not fussed with the result and we never looked like scoring but I thought the youngsters did well plus it's a bit more experience for them. Hopefully next week with more first teamers back we can take it up a gear and beat them. I just wish we could pick up more second/loose balls. We always seem to be second to every loose ball in midfield. Mind you, this has been a season long problem. Onwards and upwards!
Yes good observation we never do seem to pick up the loose balls in midfield, it’s been a feature all season and that puts our defence continually under pressure.
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1964white wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 4:11 pm Refs wearing claret blue shirts, may as well leave them on for next week then swap them for the barcode style the following week :(
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SG90 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 4:11 pm Not me. I said Gelhardt and Cresswell were the standouts, and I think Bate is up there with them.

Greenwood has played more than I thought he would tbh. But these u23s signings are just proving a waste of money. I see Gelhardt as a first team signing anyway, not someone bought to play u23s.

I'd rather the u23s were full of academy products anyway.
It's a strange situation.

Bielsa clearly doesn't rate most of them hence why he prefers to play Square pegs until it is literally impossible to do any more and he has to.

But yet Bielsa chooses to go with a squad of 18 first teamers which means 1 injury and you have to use an u23 even just on the bench.

One possible explaination is MB hasn't adapted his methods enough for the modern game.

Smaller squads were common when MB started out so you could get away with a small first team squad and use a few u23s if desperate. But with the intensity of the matches with the increase in matches a larger squad is needed now and that is something Bielsa hasn't adapted instead choosing to stick with methods he used 30 years ago which meant he could use u23s very rarely

That for me is one explanation.
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DDB220 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 4:15 pm I think Summerville should be persisted with on a regular basis. I would like to see more of him. He is certainly no less a threat than Harrison or James. He is more dangerous on the ball IMO and is better at one on one.
Looks a bit light weight to me?

But Harrison and James have hardly shone this season So maybe you are right.
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Cjay wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 3:49 pm Bamford hasn't finished recovering from his muscular injury .

Bielsa doesn't know how close he is.

So many mixed messages, he was available according to Bielsa on Friday
I did post up Bamford is knackered prior to the game.
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Cjay wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 4:19 pm It's a strange situation.

Bielsa clearly doesn't rate most of them hence why he prefers to play Square pegs until it is literally impossible to do any more and he has to.

But yet Bielsa chooses to go with a squad of 18 first teamers which means 1 injury and you have to use an u23 even just on the bench.

One possible explaination is MB hasn't adapted his methods enough for the modern game.

Smaller squads were common when MB started out so you could get away with a small first team squad and use a few u23s if desperate. But with the intensity of the matches with the increase in matches a larger squad is needed now and that is something Bielsa hasn't adapted instead choosing to stick with methods he used 30 years ago which meant he could use u23s very rarely

That for me is one explanation.
Yep and that's why we need a change in the summer. A fifth year of the same players playing every week, over exerting themselves and no rotation with a million injuries is unsustainable. If we stay up this year, we won't get lucky again next season.
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White Riot wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 3:54 pm Done well as did Hjelde and Meslier
Koch, Hjelde & Meslier the plusses today.
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Cjay wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 4:20 pm Looks a bit light weight to me?

But Harrison and James have hardly shone this season So maybe you are right.
He looks more confident and dynamic to me, the other two dither and dather rather than putting a cross in.
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SG90 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 3:55 pm Bowen on the breakaway 2-0
Caused us problems all the game.
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SG90 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 3:57 pm Another boring game. Glad we're out, as squad is too small, but nowhere near good enough, the lack of quality is evident. Players needed in urgently, or it's touch and go for our PL status.
No chance of that happening.

We'll just limp along.
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SG90 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 4:26 pm Yep and that's why we need a change in the summer. A fifth year of the same players playing every week, over exerting themselves and no rotation with a million injuries is unsustainable. If we stay up this year, we won't get lucky again next season.
A change in the summer it should have happened last summer we need a change NOW and I fear if we miss the boat this window in the summer could be too little too late.
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A striker
2cms 1 creative and 1 able to cover for KP and replace Klich.

That's what we need urgently.

This should have started in the summer as some of us said.

The squad needed evolving.
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WhiteRose wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 3:59 pm Bit unlucky today but that’s how it seems to go against West Ham, their first goal shouldn’t have stood and I think we should of had a penalty for handball. Fact of the matter is though we have been toothless going forwards, without bamford we have no one with the intelligence to move opposition defences apart or make decent runs in to the box. We must be looking for a backup striker and an attacking midfielder in this window.
Referee/VAR had a stinker!
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1964white wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 4:29 pm Caused us problems all the game.
He's always been a thorn in our side that guy.

I thought Llorente struggled with the physicality of Antonio, whereas Cresswell pocketed him at ER.
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Cjay wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 4:01 pm Lots of effort and what not.

Nice to see the u23s.

It's blatantly obvious we overrate most of them, Greenwood, Drameh, Bate aren't ready, Hjelde did OK.
Been saying that for months.

I'm one of a select few on here who watches our U23's, however I'm surprised how good Hjelde was today.
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Cjay wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 4:33 pm A striker
2cms 1 creative and 1 able to cover for KP and replace Klich.

That's what we need urgently.

This should have started in the summer as some of us said.

The squad needed evolving.
For me we needed an upgrade on Harrison on the left, a striker, a proper 10 and a replacement for Klich at 8.

Our attacking threat would be very different today if we had sent Harrison back to City and signed Cornet.
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Beat me too it. f**king hate it and players should be retrospectively booked for it if not booked there and then.

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1964white wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 4:37 pm Been saying that for months.

I'm one of a select few on here who watches our U23's, however I'm surprised how good Hjelde was today.
Hjelde was the really positive aspect which emerged from that game.
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Scoobychief wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 4:32 pm A change in the summer it should have happened last summer we need a change NOW and I fear if we miss the boat this window in the summer could be too little too late.
I meant manager wise.

Yes I said in the summer we need to move on from the sentiment. They had their chance in the PL last season. We can't cling onto winning the Championship forever, or are we admitting we're a small club then?
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