West Ham Utd v Leeds Utd. 3rd Round FA Cup

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West Ham United v Leeds United
West Ham United
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2–0
FA Cup, 3rd Round
09/01/2022
London Stadium
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Won
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2 Peter Lorimer 8
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CHAPELALLMAN wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 4:55 pm He's been very poor this season though hasn't he ?

I think you are right - I do suspect that with a fragile temperament he plays better in front of empty stadiums.
Yeah, we've a number of them like that including Paddy.
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velo wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 4:16 pm I'd laugh, but you are closer to the truth than you realise Leon
I was flabbergasted with some of those decisions, embarrassing to say the least.

It doesn't breed confidence to an under-strength young team, when they see a ref favouring the opposition with blatantly poor decisions.
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Cjay wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 4:20 pm Looks a bit light weight to me?

But Harrison and James have hardly shone this season So maybe you are right.
Jack back to his old ways trying to do too much attempting to beat three defenders when it's clearly not on.
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SG90 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 5:13 pm Then we'll give Forshaw a new contract rather than sign a midfielder in the summer.
I really hope not, but suspect that could be the case.

If we try to limp along next season as we've done this time we'll be nailed on for relegation.

Thank the Lord for Norwich, Newcastle, Burnley and Watford, they've saved our bacon.

I admire Forshaw's grit and determination to come back, but no way should he be given a new contract.

There should be no sentiment employed when we ditch a lot of these guys in the summer: Forshaw, Roberts, Klich, Costa, Kiko, Rodrigo, Ayling, Cooper, and Harrison can all go for me. Thanks for your efforts and ciao.
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1964white wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 5:16 pm I was flabbergasted with some of those decisions, embarrassing to say the least.

It doesn't breed confidence to an under-strength young team, when they see a ref favouring the opposition with blatantly poor decisions.
Their goal and that blatant hand-ball that wasn't given were horrendous decisions by the ref and VAR.
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White Riot wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 5:19 pm I really hope not, but suspect that could be the case.

If we try to limp along next season as we've done this time we'll be nailed on for relegation.

Thank the Lord for Norwich, Newcastle, Burnley and Watford, they've saved our bacon.

I admire Forshaw's grit and determination to come back, but no way should he be given a new contract.

There should be no sentiment employed when we ditch a lot of these guys in the summer: Forshaw, Roberts, Klich, Costa, Kiko, Rodrigo, Ayling, Cooper, and Harrison can all go for me. Thanks for your efforts and ciao.
I'd keep Klich & Ayling, I think they both have much to offer as back-up players, but, I reckon only costa and Karoly will go if other clubs are daft enough to take then.
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Cjay wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 4:33 pm A striker
2cms 1 creative and 1 able to cover for KP and replace Klich.

That's what we need urgently.

This should have started in the summer as some of us said.

The squad needed evolving.
It won't be happening this month Cjay, I bet we're not even contemplating making crucial signings.

Remember, we've been here before, with a less depleted squad though.
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CHAPELALLMAN wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 4:44 pm I'm not a fan of Llorente - he may be a ball playing CB, but he's not a great defender. A duff signing IMO. Koch looks much better.
Llorente is not as commanding as last season.
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mentalcase wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 5:07 pm How many times do our defenders pass the ball to the opposition causing us problem after problem ?
I know it happens all over the pitch far too often, but, when it happens at the back at an alarming rate, we just invite problems for ourselves, why ?
Countless times.

They are fine passing the ball sideways & backwards :roll:
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whiteswan wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 5:11 pm How do you know that 64 :duno:.....or rather how did you get to know
A contact who was at the game., Swannie

Bielsa's confirmed it with his reaction in his interview just before the game, didn't say much but, he was very uneasy when the question was asked.

I'm hearing another three to four weeks.

We are in the mire again, as sadly we won't be scoring many goals with either Greenwood or James up top.
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White Riot wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 5:19 pm I really hope not, but suspect that could be the case.

If we try to limp along next season as we've done this time we'll be nailed on for relegation.

Thank the Lord for Norwich, Newcastle, Burnley and Watford, they've saved our bacon.

I admire Forshaw's grit and determination to come back, but no way should he be given a new contract.

There should be no sentiment employed when we ditch a lot of these guys in the summer: Forshaw, Roberts, Klich, Costa, Kiko, Rodrigo, Ayling, Cooper, and Harrison can all go for me. Thanks for your efforts and ciao.
Totally agree Riot but we know it aint gonna happen unless Bielsa leaves.

To be fair half of them should have been gone this summer.
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mentalcase wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 5:23 pm I'd keep Klich & Ayling, I think they both have much to offer as back-up players, but, I reckon only costa and Karoly will go if other clubs are daft enough to take then.
Ayling played well in his natural position today.

In fact, Marcelo selected a balanced team & it showed as we made it difficult for the hammers to break us down. I thought we appear more unbalanced in the second-half.

If he throws the pegs in next week, expect a heavier defeat.
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White Riot wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 5:21 pm Their goal and that blatant hand-ball that wasn't given were horrendous decisions by the ref and VAR.
Plus the dive for the free-kick when Hjelde didn't even touch Vlasic & the Drameh yellow card for a no contact challenge, all poor decisions right under the referee's nose.
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1964white wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 5:48 pm Ayling played well in his natural position today.

In fact, Marcelo selected a balanced team & it showed as we made it difficult for the hammers to break us down. I thought we appear more unbalanced in the second-half.

If he throws the pegs in next week, expect a heavier defeat.
I thought MB got it wrong starting Greenwood and Bate, he never starts Gelhardt whom we need badly then starts Greenwood !!
Also, why take off Hjelde when he was playing well ?
Baffling to say the least.
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1964white wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 5:54 pm Plus the dive for the free-kick when Hjelde didn't even touch Vlasic & the Drameh yellow card for a no contact challenge, all poor decisions right under the referee's nose.
Bet we don't complain though, other managers would be all over the place with the injustice of it all every game, we just take it time and again.
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1964white wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 5:37 pm A contact who was at the game., Swannie

Bielsa's confirmed it with his reaction in his interview just before the game, didn't say much but, he was very uneasy when the question was asked.

I'm hearing another three to four weeks.

We are in the mire again, as sadly we won't be scoring many goals with either Greenwood or James up top.
I hope that goal celebration doesn't end up relegating the club.
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Johnboy1965 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 5:40 pm Totally agree Riot but we know it aint gonna happen unless Bielsa leaves.

To be fair half of them should have been gone this summer.
I agree JB, I think it will be necessary for MB to go to facilitate change and progress at our club.
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1964white wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 5:54 pm Plus the dive for the free-kick when Hjelde didn't even touch Vlasic & the Drameh yellow card for a no contact challenge, all poor decisions right under the referee's nose.
Yeah, disgraceful Leon.
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mentalcase wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 5:57 pm Bet we don't complain though, other managers would be all over the place with the injustice of it all every game, we just take it time and again.
That pikey Klopp would've been on the pitch numerous times today to get the decisions he wanted.
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White Riot wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 6:03 pm That pikey Klopp would've been on the pitch numerous times today to get the decisions he wanted.
He would have had Drameh sent off for that no-contact no-tackle booking.
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